Abu Hamza loses extradition fight

[cockneyrebel]

The SWP, judging by their literature, just seem to pretend he doesn't exist.

You could never tell you were an ex member of the SWP Tis fun though.

 

[butchersapron]

It's a famous story in P&P history,

 

[butchersapron]

You could never tell you were an ex member of the SWP Tis fun though.

Maybe you and Rmp3 could form some sort of trot comedy duo involoving repeating the same thing over and over until someone notices?

 

[cockneyrebel]

Maybe you and Rmp3 could form some sort of trot comedy duo involoving repeating the same thing over and over until someone notices?

Don't you and mk12 already fulfill that role? Except with mk12 I'm not sure if being that much up someones backside still makes you another person . Please sir, make me feel part of the gang.....

It's a famous story in P&P history,

It's so sad it's funny. The bloke doesn't post on here for 2 or 3 years and you still link to his blog......

 

[butchersapron]

Don't you and mk12 already fulfill that role?



It's so sad it's funny. The bloke doesn't post on here for 2 or 3 years and you still link to his blog......

Still? He was mentioned, i know what he does now. So i posted a link my dear bruised fruit.

 

[cockneyrebel]

Still? He was mentioned, i know what he does now. So i posted a link my dear bruised fruit.

Yeap you keep telling yourself that.......

And the very fact that you "know what he does now" says it all really......

 

[butchersapron]

Indeed, damned by the fact that i know that someone does a blog...on the internet!

Don't ever change CR.

 

[cockneyrebel]

Indeed, damned by the fact that i know that someone does a blog...on the internet!

Yeah a bloke who is of no relevance to anything and posted on this site 2 or 3 years ago. It's obviously very important that you "know that he does now", keep up the good work

 

[butchersapron]

Of course, it's massively important, that's why i've just made a load of pretend light-hearted posts about it. Secretly i...sorry...you, am seething.

 

[cockneyrebel]

Of course, it's massively important, that's why i've just made a load of pretend light-hearted posts about it. Secretly i...sorry...you, am seething.

Again, ROFLMAO

 

[butchersapron]

A triumph!

 

[cockneyrebel]

A triumph!

You just can't help yourself can you

 

[bluestreak]

(((butch))) let the anger out man, let it out.

on abu hamza, i'm sure i'm not alone in wishing him a safe journey and requesting that he remembers to turn the lights off behind him.

 

[Gingerman]

Didn't he have some bloke assigned to wipe his arse while he was in prison or was that a tabloid invention? worse job in the world if true.

 

[weltweit]

Hamza is serving a prison sentence. I think you're confusing him with that other inciter of violence, the guy from Jordan who's name I've forgotten.

oh, is it ... Abu Quatada I am thinking about.
Was just released in the last few days.

 

[Bakunin]

Phew! That was a close thing for the w/c. Also the innaugraul (and only) London Peoples Assembly was a sign of dual power

He does this blog now:

http://histomatist.blogspot.com/

Is that some kind of comedy spoof or something?

 

[JHE]

Didn't he have some bloke assigned to wipe his arse while he was in prison or was that a tabloid invention? worse job in the world if true.

I have not seen any newspaper account of the matter - but, if his arse is wiped at all, someone does it for him. He obviously cannot wipe his own arse.


Rumour has it that there is a volunteer arse-wiping rota organised by the Social Workers Party. Those who would like to join the rota can write to John & Lindsay at [email protected] Please put "I'm an Islamophile arse-wipe" in the subject line.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I for one am opposed to the extradition of Abu Hamza. Not out of any sympathy for the old bigot but because I regard the current extradition treaty between the US and UK as a disgrace. This treaty was signed in 2003 without the consultation of parliament and no public debate. It abolished the previous treaty obligations that the US had to provide prima facie evidence to secure an extradition. It also removed a number of key protections that were open to suspects. No other European country has such an unconstitutional arrangement with the yanks.

If you believe in civil liberties that means that they must apply to all citizens. Until the UK has a treaty with US that's compatible with the rule of law, and until the US outlaws the use of torture by the CIA then I'm opposed to all British citizens and residents being extradited there.

 

[pk]

Fuck that. One thing the Yanks learned from the Nazis they allowed to live in the US after WWII is how to effectively employ utterly inhuman methods of torture.

And with the advances in medical science since then, they might now be able to protract these agonies for months, maybe years.

My only issue with the senile British judiciary is why it took so long.

Oh, and if he lives, he can stay there or be sent back to Egypt.
Send him back here in a bodybag or not at all.

Naturally, I hope the hook handed one eyed sheepfucker dies in as much pain as it is possible to invoke.

Has this set a new legal precident?

If so, who of the mad Finsbury mullahs is next?

 

[JHE]

I for one am opposed to the extradition of Abu Hamza. Not out of any sympathy for the old bigot but because I regard the current extradition treaty between the US and UK as a disgrace.

You are right about the very one-sided extradition treaty, but is that any reason to oppose this particular extradition? Do you suspect that there is no prima facie case against Porkza or do you just think that there should be no extraditions at all to the US until the agreement is replaced by a better one? What steps are you going to take to oppose Porkza's extradition?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Naturally, I hope the hook handed one eyed sheepfucker dies in as much pain as it is possible to invoke.

You say "naturally" as if your socially conditioned acquiesce to inhumanity is a normal human response. Speak for yourself.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

You are right about the very one-sided extradition treaty, but is that any reason to oppose this particular extradition? Do you suspect that there is no prima facie case against Porkza or do you just think that there should be no extraditions at all to the US until the agreement is replaced by a better one? What steps are you going to take to oppose Porkza's extradition?

I don't know what the quality of the evidence against Hamza is, that's a matter for the courts. His lawyers claim it was obtained through torture. The High Court claim there is no evidence to support this but whilst the US officially obtains counter terrorism evidence through the use of torture and doesn't need to satisfy any evidential burden to get an extradition then I'm opposed to all extraditions there. If they want to extradite then they can fucking well learn to respect human rights and the rule of law first.

I'd sign a petition. Not much more I can do.

 

[Malamud]

Naturally, I hope the hook handed one eyed sheepfucker dies in as much pain as it is possible to invoke.

I think it's a pity that you can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory so easily.

 

[nino_savatte]

Eh?

 

[The39thStep]

I was reminded of this:

The Revolution Betrothed Part Two.

The expedition to Iraq by the local International Brigade had not been the success Cockers had hoped for. The sun was at its highest and they were low on water and they were still quite a distance from Baghdad.
Ginger, Douglas, Red Hippy,Elisabeth Violet and Henry strained their eyes through the hazy heat reflecting off the barely recognisable road . There was something large moving towards them, a vehicle, a large vehicle, very, very quickly. “Try and flag it down!" shouted Cockneyrebel. His voice rang out even above the noise of the vehicle, the result of many a long and fruitless paper sale.

The number 23 to South Cheadle rumbled by but there was still no sign of the bus to Baghdad. “Are you sure you checked the bus timetable Cockers?” asked Henry.

“No point “said Cockers “ The Blairites won’t fund a proper public transport system because they don’t want to upset the car manufacturers.”

“Yes but did you check to see if there was a regular bus service from here to Baghdad on the timetable.?” Henry persisted.

“No point,” replied Cockneyrebel “The timetable would be all lies”

It had been a long day already. They had set off at 09.00 that morning with a packed lunch and a page ripped out of an atlas showing the Middle East and had waited at the bus stop until nearly noon. Consequently they had eaten most of their food. Red Hippy had told his sister that he would be back by tea time and had been somewhat concerned that according to Cockers that this may not be possible if they actually got to Bagdad and made contact with the local militia. As Henry still had half a Marmite sandwich left , Red Hippy a Wagon wheel , Cockneyrebel a Fry's Turkish Delight that he had bought 'in order to get acclimatised to the food' and Elizabeth Violet half a packet of Lovehearts, the Cheadle International Brigade decided that they would abandon going to Bagdad today and share lunch .Clubbing together they gave Solidarnosc 35p for a can of Vimto to go to the Spar shop as Cockers was still banned from writing Smash Globalisation on the Lyon Maid Ice Cream Board. “Don’t take any shit from the lady behind the counter, she is full of petite bourgeois ideology and when the economic crisis comes will probably line up with the international capitalist class” advised Cockers.

Lunch having been digested, Douglas asked ‘What are we going to do now Cockers?”. Cockers struck a pose stroking the beard and moustache that he had put on that morning with his mums eyeliner crayon .He had seen Trotsky in a number of pictures do this and with his new spectacles whenever he caught a glimpse of himself in shop windows he thought that the resemblance was stunning.

“I know” he announced “we will get the workers on strike by holding a mass meeting and rally to stop the war. Douglas and Henry, you leaflet the Pound Shop and the kebab take away. Ginger you provide the stewarding in case the armed wing of the state decide to attack the rally. “

“What about the Indian Restaurant ?”said Henry “The SWP/Respect don’t meet there anymore ever since it didn’t get a three star rating in Lindsey German Good Food guide. Shall I approach them for a donation“

Cockers squinted slightly and stroked his beard, some of which was now smudging on his chin, deep in thought. “I don’t think so, he said “They keep flying the Flag of St George when the football is on and kept doing Ali G impersonations when I was last in. I don’t think they are class conscious enough to be honest”


The General Strike and rally to stop the War was set for 2.00 o’clock.Elisabeth Violet had gone home and brought her cat to watch Cockers and the other star speakers. They decided to hold the rally to stop the war on the park green outside the Pound shop and Squats 4U , the anarchist estate agents. Ginger, Henry, Elisabeth Violet ,and Douglas set up a platform and made some posters whilst Cockers practised his speech in the window of the anarchist estate agents.

The posters read STOP THE WAR. STOP THE WAR IMMEDIATELY proclaimed another. STOP THE WAR JUST THIS MINUTE said another. Elizabeth Violet had produced one that said STOP THE WAR OR I WILL SQUEEM AND SQUEEM AND SQUEEM UNTILL I AM SICK

“Wait a minute” said Cockney “Wait a minute. Isn’t that slogan pandering to the more backward elements ?” He stroked his beard again , “ I know, how about you shouldn’t have started the war in the first place?

“Don’t you call my cat backward,” said Elisabeth Violet “otherwise I will get her to scratch you Cockney and she won’t vote for you as leader of our Workers Power group and I will stop her from attending the REVO meetings and anyway that slogan is too long and won’t fit on the placard.”

Monty the owner came out . Monty was an unaligned anarchist and proprietor of Squats4U

“Clear orf, he said “you are lowering the tone of the area”

Despite Gingers vigilance the park keeper was approaching fast. “ Get off the bowling green “ he shouted at them. “ I’ve got a match starting in 30 minutes so get those posters and Red flags tidied up otherwise you are banned from the swings”

“Blimey “ said Cockers “ It’s the state, we’d better scarper.” And off they went