About the 20mph speed limit in Wales built up areas? Which goes live tonight..

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No - it is one that is safe for the conditions up to the speed limit.

Yes, that's what he's saying "safe for the conditions"

Also went on to say traffic flow speed, again, this is not necessarily the safest speed.

 

[RevolutionSound]

Also went on to say traffic flow speed, again, this is not necessarily the safest speed.

He's saying you drive to the conditions, and your max speed (up to) is the speed limit

 

[ddraig]

Wales 20mph: Serious road casualties drop 23%, figures show

Deaths or serious injuries fall 23% on 20mph and 30mph roads since Wales' default 20mph came in.

www.bbc.co.uk

There was a drop in casualties on 20mph and 30mph roads in Wales in the first three months of 2024, after the default 20mph speed limit was introduced.

The number of serious casualties or fatalities has dropped 23%, with 78 people killed or seriously injured on both 20mph and 30mph roads, compared to 101 serious casualties in the first quarter of 2023, before the default 20mph.

When minor injuries are included, the figures still show a 26% reduction for casualties of all severities.

The Welsh government called the figures "encouraging" and said every casualty reduced made a difference.

 

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Wales 20mph: Serious road casualties drop 23%, figures show

Deaths or serious injuries fall 23% on 20mph and 30mph roads since Wales' default 20mph came in.

www.bbc.co.uk

There was a drop in casualties on 20mph and 30mph roads in Wales in the first three months of 2024, after the default 20mph speed limit was introduced.

The number of serious casualties or fatalities has dropped 23%, with 78 people killed or seriously injured on both 20mph and 30mph roads, compared to 101 serious casualties in the first quarter of 2023, before the default 20mph.

When minor injuries are included, the figures still show a 26% reduction for casualties of all severities.

The Welsh government called the figures "encouraging" and said every casualty reduced made a difference.

What an extremely helpful post to find immediately, came here to see if how it was going and it seems well.

 

[Plumdaff]

Rapidly paying for itself too. I'm sure right wingers who are always bleating on about the national purse strings and household budget will be rushing to commend such a cost effective measure......

 

[ddraig]

init!
loads of nitpicking in the comments too

 

[ddraig]

heh, haven't seen any frothing yet!

Cycling: 20mph speed limit leads to Junior Tour of Wales reroute

The Junior Tour of Wales changes three of its five stages, cutting the length of the race.

www.bbc.co.uk

Three of the five stages of the Junior Tour of Wales, which starts on Friday, have been changed as support vehicles would not be able to keep up with the riders without speeding.

"Even though there was only seven miles of 20mph across the whole 237-mile, four-day race, and even then split into a number of very short sections, we couldn't guarantee to manage all of them safely."

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Welsh Cycling said it supported the default speed limit being lowered because of the improvement to road safety for cyclists, but said it had "presented some challenges for delivering road racing".

 

[Spymaster]

Welsh cyclists fucked by 20mph speed limit.

I'm not sure who to cheer for with this one!

 

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Piss up in a brewery springs to mind

 

[Plumdaff]

Welsh Cycling in favour of increased safety that will require adaptations to pre existing routes. What a story!

 

[Spymaster]

Piss up in a brewery springs to mind

Dragon Brewery?

 

[edj]

All roads should have no speed limits in case they end up hosting an F1 race one day.

 

[pug]

The organisers didn't apply for the road closures needed in time but I guess that isn't a good headline.

 

[Spymaster]

The organisers didn't apply for the road closures needed in time but I guess that isn't a good headline.

So it's the cyclists who have cunted things up here.

 

[edj]

So it's the cyclists who have cunted things up here.

Yes!! Those cyclists that are safer now going to the shops in 20mph zones must be really pissed off that this bike race is being slightly rerouted. Serves them well right bunch of cunts!!

 

[Spymaster]

Yes!! Those cyclists that are safer now going to the shops in 20mph zones must be really pissed off that this bike race is being slightly rerouted. Serves them well right bunch of cunts!!

 

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If anyone wants to derail the thread just draw orange utangs attention to a recent post or two

 

[edj]

I know you just enjoy the attention but was just responding in case it was a serious point and you don’t realise there’s a difference between cycling as transport and cycling as sport.

It’s difficult to tell if you’re thick as shit or just a knob.

Either way you’re a knob tbh.

 

[Spymaster]

I know you just enjoy the attention but was just responding in case it was a serious point and you don’t realise there’s a difference between cycling as transport and cycling as sport.

It’s difficult to tell if you’re thick as shit or just a knob.

Either way you’re a knob tbh.

 

[Spymaster]

If anyone wants to derail the thread just draw orange utangs attention to a recent post or two

The last thing we need is a thread about Welsh speed limits being derailed!

 

[edj]

The last thing we need is a thread about Welsh speed limits being derailed!

 

[cupid_stunt]

If anyone wants to derail the thread just draw orange utangs attention to a recent post or two

Is orange utangs a new name for Trump?

I think he's a bit busy ATM, so I doubt he would be interested TBH.

Oh, hang on, did you mean Orang Utan?

 

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Is orange utangs a new name for Trump?

I think he's a bit busy ATM, so I doubt he would be interested TBH.

Oh, hang on, did you mean Orang Utan?

That's torn it

 

[cupid_stunt]

That's torn it

What?

<whistles innocently>

 

[_Russ_]

Its a waste of time, far too many entitled Cunts and hardly any enforcement.
(I'm all for the 20mph zones btw, it just needs one of the 2 above factors to change and it could work................but that aint gonna happen)

 

[Spymaster]

So a massive 70% of Welsh people reject the blanket 20mph limit.

Seems most posters on this thread have a pretty poor opinion of the majority of the population of Wales.

 

[Plumdaff]

Will no one think of the poor Welsh drivers

 

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Will no one think of the poor Welsh drivers

People certainly are thinking of the poor Welsh drivers judging by this

https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/driving/2025-02/calls-to-expand-20mph-zones-after-reduction-in-casualties/

 

[ddraig]

Some roads in Cardiff reverting to 30 mph, not many

The roads that will revert back to 30mph are:

• Newport Road: All of Newport Road - except for a section of carriageway which runs outside St Illtyd's Catholic School.
• Western Avenue: A small section of this road west of the Taff River Bridge and to the junction with Cardiff Road/Llandaff Road.
• Ocean Way: From its junction with Beignon Close to Rover Way
• Hadfield Road: Between the junction with Leckwith Road and Penarth Road.

Found this interesting

It received 933 requests to revert the speed limit across 232 roads.

However, 40 roads were disqualified due to not having a 20mph limit or being outside Cardiff, and of the 192 roads reviewed, 178 received fewer than 10 requests.

Excalibur Drive, in north Cardiff received the most requests - 207 from 26 residents, but it did not qualify, as it surrounds numerous properties and community facilities.

 

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From today's rag

Wales’s 20mph speed limit has cut road deaths. Why is there still even a debate?

Research suggests the scheme may be more popular than thought, with consultations dominated by a loud minority

www.theguardian.com