About Osama Bin Laden.

[Khaleed]

The man named Osama Bin Laden is a huge name in world knowledge.

Along side the Queen and George W Bush he could be the most famous man in the world.

But after all the actions that he has been accused of doing and away from the morality of his action some Muslims have asked one question about Osama Bin Laden which few people seem to discuss.

This question is whether Osama Bin Laden is the Mehdi?

The history of the rise of Islam under the Caliphs about Prophet Mohammed (saw) is an interesting one and Bin Laden seems to claim that he is the successor to this movement with some even claiming him to the Mehdi.

And what about the return of the Caliphate? This idea seemed unthinkable 30/40 years ago but today across the Arab world as well as in Pakistan, Indonesia and other Muslim lands the idea of a Caliphate larger than even those in the past could be created.


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Later on in this discussion people asked again and again the same questions.

(1) I do not support the cutting off of people's finger, heads and I do not support violence on religious grounds.

(2) I believe in freedom of speech but pure insults about the Prophet Mohammed (saw) is not about Freedom of Speech but just pure hate.

(3) The Editor loves his power

 

[rennie]

what on earth are you on about? Osama bin Laden the mehdi? he's not shiaa!!!

 

[Lock&Light]

I'm still not convinced that Jesus is the Messia, or persuaded that Mohammed was anything more than a quack.

 

[Khaleed]

Lock&Light, that is way way out of order and way past the line of decenency what you said.

For your sake I hope you apologise for those comments.

 

[slaar]

Lock&Light, that is way way out of order and way past the line of decenency what you said.

For your sake I hope you apologise for those comments.

You're a mentalist.

 

[snadge]

right, whats medhi, and a caliphate and while we are there what's shiaa.

then I might have a clue

 

[butchersapron]

No, he's not the Mehdi. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[blamblam]

No, he's not the Mehdi. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[FreddyB]

No, he's not the Mehdi. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Maybe he's the anit-mehdi.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Lock&Light, that is way way out of order and way past the line of decenency what you said.

For your sake I hope you apologise for those comments.

We actually believe in open discussion around here. If you want to partake, feel free. If you want to quake with religious mummery when something anti religious is said, find yourself another bulletin board.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

To establish the caliphate, you'd think he'd need to be able to show his face in public without it being shot off.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'm still not convinced that Jesus is the Messia, or persuaded that Mohammed was anything more than a quack.

You'd have to be a wackjob to start your own religion. Who wants to spend a couple of thousand years being misquoted, rewritten, and reinterpreted for the benefit of those in power?

 

[Khaleed]

We actually believe in open discussion around here. If you want to partake, feel free. If you want to quake with religious mummery when something anti religious is said, find yourself another bulletin board.

Well, are those the rules of the forum?

So i am not allowed to talk about Religous ideas but Political Ideas are okay.

So i am not allowed to talk about Islam but takling about Anarchism is okay.

Just checking the rules cos I do not know them.

 

[Lock&Light]

So i am not allowed to talk about Islam but takling about Anarchism is okay.

No-one is stopping you talking about Islam, or any other religion. And no-one will stop me doing the same. It's just that we both have different things to say on the subject, obviously. I have nothing to apologise for.

 

[jonH]

he's hiding in my attic, just a normal guy really, a bit over religious

 

[Jangla]

hmmm, my troll sense is tingling

 

[camouflage]

Lock&Light, that is way way out of order and way past the line of decenency what you said.

For your sake I hope you apologise for those comments.

Bollocks it's, out of order what he said, what makes his beleifs about Mohammed any less valid then yours?

Religion, pure bloody ego, and nothing more.

 

[Streathamite]

Well, are those the rules of the forum?

So i am not allowed to talk about Religous ideas but Political Ideas are okay.

So i am not allowed to talk about Islam but takling about Anarchism is okay.

Just checking the rules cos I do not know them.

let me spell this out;
you have the right to say what you think.
so has L&L.
and that includes criticising the bollox you've just spouted.
it's called 'free speech'.
and no, L&L was not out of order, and I happen to agree with him.
buthcersapron; top one!

 

[Khaleed]

No-one is stopping you talking about Islam, or any other religion. And no-one will stop me doing the same. It's just that we both have different things to say on the subject, obviously. I have nothing to apologise for.

I respect you for your beliefs and am here to discuss ideas but being offensive is way out of order.

My roomate claims that maybe on u75 some may not be aware of the offensive nature of certain comments so i will explain.

You mentioned something about the Prohpet (saw) in your first post which was very insulting. Although i am not a religious muslim at all I still find what you said offensive and so would 99% of the muslims around the world.

Sorry to complain but this is an important issue (maybe not an important issue for you or others on u75 but important for the 1billion plus muslims)

 

[Zonk]

I respect you for your beliefs and am here to discuss ideas but being offensive is way out of order.

My roomate claims that maybe on u75 some may not be aware of the offensive nature of certain comments so i will explain.

You mentioned something about the Prohpet (saw) in your first post which was very insulting. Although i am not a religious muslim at all I still find what you said offensive and so would 99% of the muslims around the world.

Sorry to complain but this is an important issue (maybe not an important issue for you or others on u75 but important for the 1billion plus muslims)

But if you hadn't brought the subject up in the first place on this forum then no one would have been 'offensive'.

Therefore you are in the wrong as it's you who should know better.

 

[magneze]

I respect you for your beliefs and am here to discuss ideas but being offensive is way out of order.

You threatened L&L because of his belief. That's not respect, that's pretty offensive. In my book anyway.

 

[Jangla]

I respect you for your beliefs and am here to discuss ideas but being offensive is way out of order.

My roomate claims that maybe on u75 some may not be aware of the offensive nature of certain comments so i will explain.

You mentioned something about the Prohpet (saw) in your first post which was very insulting. Although i am not a religious muslim at all I still find what you said offensive and so would 99% of the muslims around the world.

Sorry to complain but this is an important issue (maybe not an important issue for you or others on u75 but important for the 1billion plus muslims)

Riiiight. So free speech is fine, as long as you don't get offended by it?!
In fact almost any religion, by definition, is offensive to almost all other religions so your point is, well, pointless.

If you expect to get involved in some healthy debate, you're going to need thicker skin.

 

[Streathamite]

I respect you for your beliefs and am here to discuss ideas but being offensive is way out of order.

My roomate claims that maybe on u75 some may not be aware of the offensive nature of certain comments so i will explain.

You mentioned something about the Prohpet (saw) in your first post which was very insulting. Although i am not a religious muslim at all I still find what you said offensive and so would 99% of the muslims around the world.

Sorry to complain but this is an important issue (maybe not an important issue for you or others on u75 but important for the 1billion plus muslims)

Let me put it simply and clearly concerning your delicate sensitive religious sensibilities; TOUGH TIT. To you and all others who choose to believe in a religion, and to all who get offended by rationmal comment on it.

 

[Lock&Light]

Sorry to complain but this is an important issue (maybe not an important issue for you or others on u75 but important for the 1billion plus muslims)

There are more Non-muslims, so why can they be offended?

I believe that no-one has caused more suffering on this planet than Mohammed, except if it might be Jesus. Quite possibly unintentional, but suffering just the same.

 

[Streathamite]

I think the xtians would be ahead on the body count, if anybody had the time or inclination to REALLy sit down and total the whole thing up. Otherwise, agree with you totally, L&L

 

[Kaka Tim]

THe bible, the koran and the torah are all a crock of anachronistic reactionary shite.

IF that offends you khaleed - tough.

I find much of the ideology expoused by these mouldy old tomes deeply offensive - but Im not going to launch a fatwa on your arse for propogating it.

 

[iROBOT]

Free Speech is haram!! Dont you dozy Urbanites know nuffing!!

 

[fanta]

No, he's not the Mehdi. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[Khaleed]

You threatened L&L because of his belief. That's not respect, that's pretty offensive. In my book anyway.

I did not threathen anyone. you must of misread something