Aberfan - 40 years on, Children of the Valley TV doc

Discussion in 'Wales/Cymru' started by editor, Oct 16, 2006.

  1. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Never heard of it before, but seems to be on 120.
  2. dessiato

    dessiato I have earned the right to sing the blues

    If anyone could link me to it so I can watch it later in the week I'd be very grateful.

    Aberfan is one of the first memories I have of a UK disaster. I remember JFK, and Churchill funeral but nothing like this. My father always made us watch big events, the moon landing, England winning the world cup etc. He believed it was important. But not this. He said it was too much. He was right in some ways, but I saw it in the papers. It still upsets me today.
  3. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Bump for this - performance on at 7-30.
  4. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    Aberfan was just about two months after my tenth birthday, some of those kids would have been the same age as me ...
    I try not to think about it too much, most years I get away without too much distress. But these major anniversaries get me blubbing.

    E2A - I'm from Bristol, originally - that's one of the places that supplied coffins for the child victims.
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2016
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Don't know if anyone watched it but that was powerful stuff - the piece where the different choirs sang out the names of the dead whilst another one and BT sang Buried alive by the National Coal Board ( part 6 i think) was brilliant.
  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It still resonates deeply with me. I've never been able to shake off the sadness and the anger.
  7. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. I am just waiting for the next tomato..

    I recall as a nine year old all the adults crying on the awful day, I remember our bread rounds man Alan sobbing on my mums' shoulder on the Saturday morning. We lived in a mining village in South Yorkshire and many of our close neighbours who moved from Wales to work in our local mines had family or friends around Aberfan.
    So sad, I have a heavy heart just typing this. The worst thing I saw as a child.
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  8. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

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  9. dessiato

    dessiato I have earned the right to sing the blues

    Thank you. It won't work in Spain at the moment. I'll get my VPN running and try again. But thank you very much for this.
  10. ginger_syn

    ginger_syn Insanity laughs under pressure...

    A heads up for any one interested , Surviving Aberfan is on BBC 4 at 9 tonight, and the film poem The Green Hollow being shown on Friday at 9 on BBC1 Wales and BBC4 on Sunday at 8.
  11. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    It is just after 0915 on 21st October 2016 - I, and some friends, have observed a minutes silence for the 144 people, including 116 children, buried alive by the NCB when tip7 at Aberfan collapsed and buried Pant Glas school and surrounding houses in coal waste and tailings slurry.
    Rest yn Heddwch
    Tonight, and over this weekend, we will fly - in mourning - our Welsh courtesy flag and the red duster will be at half mast.
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  12. mwgdrwg

    mwgdrwg Be a Pisces. Jam.


    I Hamelin erstalwm,
    Os yw’r hen stori’n ffaith,
    Fe ddaeth rhyw bibydd rhyfedd
    Yn gwisgo mantel fraith.

    A’r pibydd creulon hwnnw
    A aeth â’r plant i gyd
    A’u cloi, yn ôl yr hanes,
    O fewn y mynydd mud.

    A Hamelin oedd ddistaw
    A’r holl gartrefi’n brudd,
    A mawr fu’r galar yno
    Tros lawer nos a dydd.

    Distawodd chwerthin llawen
    Y plant wrth chwarae ’nghyd,
    Pob tegan bach yn segur,
    A sŵn pob troed yn fud.

    Trist iawn fu hanes colli
    Y plant diniwed, gwan –
    Yn Hamelin erstalwm,
    Heddiw yn Aber-fan.

    [T. Llew Jones]
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  13. High Voltage

    High Voltage In the top 97% of Urban's most interesting posters

    Bloody hell - I can "just" remember this, I would have been about 5 and I think Blue Peter did their annual collection for the children, I think, of Aberfan - we didn't have a TV at home at the time, so I don't know why I've got black and white TV images in my head, but I have, vague images that I didn't really understand at the time, I knew it was bad, but I just didn't comprehend the true horror of what had happened

    My thoughts are with those who lost anyone in this disaster
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  14. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    I've just seen this on the BBC website. It's very moving.

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  15. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    My school in Wales too held a special assembly and a minute's silence at 9.15 today for those who died. I hope every school in the UK did so too for this was a truly national tragedy, a tragedy designed by the National Coal Board who behaved despicably in the aftermath.

    There are no words. Perhaps silence and remembrance is all we have.
  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Just to say again, the piece i talked about that week is here. A great piece for people to watch tonight. Maybe.
  17. newbie

    newbie undisambiguated

    I had a paper round. Cold morning, early, front page of the Daily Sketch, people in tears. And all the others I suppose but that's the one I remember.

    Seeing the pictures over and again at every house, knowing how those the other side of the letterbox would receive it.

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  18. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    That is horribly beautiful(ly written) and worth quoting again even though you wrote it ten years ago. I just read it to my partner and it made us both cry.
  19. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I was the same age as many of the victims. As a child I remember the great, great sadness that the disaster cast over everyone and everything and it's still impossible to talk about it or watch documentaries about it without feeling tears well up. And fuck the NCB. Not one cunt lost their job over this outrage and the families were cheated out of the money that was so generously donated.
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  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Would anyone have any info or experience of the school boycotts that took place in the weeks/ months after the 21st?
  21. Red Cat

    Red Cat Well-Known Member

    That was beautiful. Really great.
  22. ginger_syn

    ginger_syn Insanity laughs under pressure...

    The Green Hollow was a beautiful piece, simply done and very moving and well worth watching.
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  23. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    There's another program about the making of the work, what it meant to the writers/performers/community etc at the bottom here.
  24. dessiato

    dessiato I have earned the right to sing the blues

    That's hard to read. I had tears in my eyes reading it.
  25. Red Cat

    Red Cat Well-Known Member

    I'll watch that. Thanks.
  26. ElizabethofYork

    ElizabethofYork Witchsmeller Pursuivant

    Indeed. I defy anyone to read that and not feel emotional.
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  27. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist slowtime

    rage as much as sadness. The shit they do to us. For what, another 0 on the end of the numbers in the bank balance.
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  28. StoneRoad

    StoneRoad heckling from the back!

    Another year on ... and still I remember.
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  29. Ralph Llama


    One obvious factor in my radicalization.
    My great grandparents were beaten for speaking our language, they had to keep livestock and work themselves into the graves just to feed the kids.
    Their children were cracked by the war; My Nan worked in catering during the war and was given blue pills to go to sleep and white pills to stay awake. This daily abuse of Dexedrine and valium broke her mind. They were not informed of the danger. My memories of her are not good. Then there was Aberfan, my hometown. My mother survived if you can call it that. She saw everyone crushed to death around her. I don't want to know how many generations of my family will carry the trauma. None of us are very well. There was no compensation. Makes me realize the reality of industrial feudalism and colonialism and how far through history the after effects flow.

    I was living in the area recently (i`m a traveler). Was really nice to do some community work, and engage with people who feel it as I do, but it sickened me to my very bones how the people are still being treated. But oh my, are they resilient, positive and community orientated... as travelers (i didn't tell them at first) we had a very warm reception. As soon as we landed the entire community came out to have a nose. We were showered with crates of beer, cakes and you name it(i didn't tell them). I am very proud of where I am from.
    It's really nice to see everybody showing respect and remembrance here. Thank you, it's really nice :)
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2018
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  30. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Welsh librarian jailed after theft of Aberfan disaster files

    A librarian from south Wales has been jailed for stealing books and documents including precious records of the 1966 Aberfan disaster in which 116 children died.

    Elizabeth McGregor, 57, took hundreds of books from the public library where she worked in Pontypridd and tried to sell them online to help clear her debts.

    When she realised she was under suspicion she tried to destroy some of the books she still had by burning them and attempted to get rid of others by putting them into her green recycling bin.

    “She’s a lady in her late 50s who, having had a low level of social interaction for many years, is a lonely individual with her share of physical and mental issues.”

    McGregor was given six months in prison for theft and two months for perverting the course of justice.


    A librarian with a low level of social interaction, lonely, with mental health issues? I was shocked. ;)
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