chieftain
Mega Gammon
He started off very brightly and played regularly but to be fair to Spurs he's been injured a a lot, I'm sure Redknapp will play him, he's gradually re-introducing him already
Aaron Ramsey - the best prospect in British football?
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He started off very brightly and played regularly but to be fair to Spurs he's been injured a a lot, I'm sure Redknapp will play him, he's gradually re-introducing him already
spacemonkey
I Love Noodles
His youtube compilations in 5 years time is are going to be something special. 
I can't wait to see some of the goals this lad well set up and score. A very special talent. 
I can't wait to see some of the goals this lad well set up and score. A very special talent. 
Infidel Castro
Producto Falso
That goal against the Italy U21's really was something special.
Wasn't it just? I was looking at You Tube yesterday and the way he popped the ball away it was like he was just practising.
He's so mature it scares me. Laid back to the point of dead.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Cardiff have spent millions setting up an academy but it's paying dividends. Something we've had to do really if we want to compete with wealthier English clubs. We can't afford to lure the best players to Wales with expensive wages. We tried that before and are still recovering. So instead we have to grow our own and sell them at a huge profit to increase our player warchest another way.
As well as poaching bargains from Ireland, Scotland and abroad. When we do buy English it's pet players Dave Jones worked with years ago or underachievers we think we can turn around.
Infidel Castro
Producto Falso
I love the fact that Flynn hardly bats an eyelid at Ramsey and Bale not being up for the U21 team tomorrow. That's a lucky manager. He knows he's already got a pretty tasty team without the likes of that pair. It's frightening.
He's very talented but his decision making is not quite there yet. It's not uncommon that he does something brilliant and then gives the ball away with a poorly placed pass. You can see just that sort of thing at the beginning of that video of his goal against Scotland.
Unfortunately what tends to happen to him and young midfielders in general at Arsenal is that if they do that a bit too often in any given game or run of games then their confidence suffers and they start passing square or back for very long periods of time and we lose any kind of attacking thrust from midfield.
The most recent example of this would be Denilson who spent most of last season and the season before last playing very conservatively. Although he's injured at the moment, early this season he showed signs of improved confidence and a greater tendency to pass forwards which indicates he might be starting to fulfill his early promise.
So, yeah, I'd think it will be at least two more seasons before he starts to make a sustained impact in the Arsenal midfield.
Unfortunately what tends to happen to him and young midfielders in general at Arsenal is that if they do that a bit too often in any given game or run of games then their confidence suffers and they start passing square or back for very long periods of time and we lose any kind of attacking thrust from midfield.
The most recent example of this would be Denilson who spent most of last season and the season before last playing very conservatively. Although he's injured at the moment, early this season he showed signs of improved confidence and a greater tendency to pass forwards which indicates he might be starting to fulfill his early promise.
So, yeah, I'd think it will be at least two more seasons before he starts to make a sustained impact in the Arsenal midfield.
yeah, I keep reading doom mongering stuff about there being no good players coming through and once gerrard et al retire there's no future for England, and yet I keep reading from more informed people about the number of great prospects - and let's not forget Jonjo Shelvey at Charlton and Bostock at Spuds.
I agree with that. However, there's a difference between not being world class, and plummeting to the level where we don't even qualify for things.
Mind you this chin stroking does happen quite frequently, I remember around 99 everyone saying that the england team was doomed and wouldn't even be qualifying for any tournaments within a few years...
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
exactly...
England might win the world cup this year... discuss
Impossible.
Because the World Cup is next year.
chieftain
Mega Gammon
Impossible.
Because the World Cup is next year.
although correct, you win today's pedantry award and have missing the point entirely
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Ah yes. The people who watch only Premiership, European and International games, and then complain that there aren't any good young players getting a chance and it's all because there are too many foreigners.
No it isn't. It's because few players mature fast enough to play at the very top level until they are into their early 20s. So if you never watch any age group or lower league football you'll not see them.
Unfortunately there is a corollary to this. Because the English media are obsessed with the top few teams and a few celebrity players to the exclusion of all else, no attention is paid to the England age group teams. So when the Spanish make Atletico Madrid send their first choice goalkeeper, and Real Madrid and Barcelona to send first team squad players, to the U20 World Cup, England send a squad that includes only a couple of players even on the verge of first team football. Because in Spain the tournament is covered by the media, whereas in England it isn't.
So the best young English players don't get to play international tournament football until they are full internationals. Then we wonder why the England team struggle when it comes to the big tournaments. The countries that have a good record at the World Cup and the European Championships are mostly the ones that send quality teams to the youth tournaments.
Good post 
Placid Casual27
Gorau Chwarae Cyd Chwarae
Ramsey
Best young Welsh prospect since Hughes, Rush.
Best balanced football player I have ever seen. I was 20 feet away from him on his City debut, he moves in a way that I don't even understand how he does it, effortless, balletic.
Fingers crossed, even non-Wales fans will swoon at him if he matures. Like Hoddle, maybe (with fewer God-delusion gibberish bollocks tendencies, one hopes)
And more than 53 caps. He can have as many as he wants. 11 caps already as we held him back, 2 lovely senior goals and two all-time classics v Italy and England at u21 level
We are not worthy ha ha he's all ours, see ya
Best young Welsh prospect since Hughes, Rush.
Best balanced football player I have ever seen. I was 20 feet away from him on his City debut, he moves in a way that I don't even understand how he does it, effortless, balletic.
Fingers crossed, even non-Wales fans will swoon at him if he matures. Like Hoddle, maybe (with fewer God-delusion gibberish bollocks tendencies, one hopes)
And more than 53 caps. He can have as many as he wants. 11 caps already as we held him back, 2 lovely senior goals and two all-time classics v Italy and England at u21 level
We are not worthy ha ha he's all ours, see ya
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
The u21 European championship is reaching a critical stage with wales unbeaten so far in qualifying and I don't want to tempt fate, but we should win away tomorrow night. That leave sus with two away games at italy and Hungary for a place in the finals. It may only be u21, but its the best we have done in any qualifying tournament ever. This is the u21 team which went something stupid like 3 years without winning a game. Brian Flynn has done wonders and has some amazing talent at his disposal. I think we are likely to throw in some senior players to esnure qualification. We have players in the u21 with double figures of full caps. its because we have to throw any decent players we have into the full team, but it don't half help the u21 to be able to call on them, unlike their english counterparts our guys are seasoned internationals by the time they're 19!!
kained&able
Here for the football.
That is a bit unfair. A lot of the last batch of england u21's had a hell of a lot of caps and there is a few like muamba and richards who have a fair few in the current batch.
After the last championships though we had a good 8/9/10 of the squad all not allowed to play anymore so the current lot are fairly inexperienced.
Milner who has now graduated to the senior level hold the record of most caps in the u21s. He may well have had double figures in full team by the time he retired, as did richards and joe hart might have as well.
dave
After the last championships though we had a good 8/9/10 of the squad all not allowed to play anymore so the current lot are fairly inexperienced.
Milner who has now graduated to the senior level hold the record of most caps in the u21s. He may well have had double figures in full team by the time he retired, as did richards and joe hart might have as well.
dave
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
although correct, you win today's pedantry award and have missing the point entirely
I am honoured to recieve this award. I consider it to be the result of a lifetime's effort, not just by myself, but also the many others who have helped to nurture my excessive pedantry. I would especially like to thank my agent...
chieftain
Mega Gammon
lol, great come back... will you be collecting the award yourself, recording a message or sending a celebrity friend along in your place?
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
lol, great come back... will you be collecting the award yourself, recording a message or sending a celebrity friend along in your place?
Can I do all three?
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re-reading this, maybe corax is alluding to him playing for wales instead of england. it can be a blow when a promising young player gets this news at this stage of their career
kained&able
Here for the football.
gibbs is out for a maximum of three weeks tis only bruised.
Don't worry you have silvestre who can play lb. Okay worry a little..
dave
Don't worry you have silvestre who can play lb. Okay worry a little..
dave
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Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
jeez, does Arsene not give these guys their milk or what? Brittle as my grannie.
All contact injuries too of late, which really is more bad luck than anything (lots of muscle injuries I´d blame the training/signing injury prone players/management)
All contact injuries too of late, which really is more bad luck than anything (lots of muscle injuries I´d blame the training/signing injury prone players/management)
Better than Giggs as a teenager? I always think of Giggs as being the exception of teenage prodigies I can remember that have truly fulfilled their potential. Other British players once tipped for all-time greatness
have done good stuff, but were unfortunately the victim of press over-hyping. Ferdinand being our Beckenbauer, or Cole as our Zidane spring to mind, and Owen hasn't rewritten the scoring record books since ten years ago. Don't get me wrong, they have been very good, but the English press do go a bit bonkers sometimes.
