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A thread of wrestling

Discussion in 'general sports' started by kained&able, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. Nine Bob Note

    Nine Bob Note Prickly Pollster

    Oh ignore him. He's spent the past year on Twitter slightly pretending to be gay* this is the Troll King's latest bit (it's wrongly been speculated today that the Good Brothers have updated their social media bios to suggest they are about to quit Vince Co)

    *Devitt not Camomile :p
     
  2. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Yeah, having poked around a bit*, that looks the general consensus.

    Bloody wind up merchant :mad: :D

    *fnar
     
  3. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    NXT Takeover was rather entertaining again.
     
  4. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Black vs Dream and the women's title match were the highlights of a very good card.
     
  5. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I thought the womens match was rushed a little bit but it was still good. No argument from me about the Black vs Dream match, though there were some spots in war games that made that match highly entertaining for me too. I probably would have enjoyed the Almas vs McIntyre match more if McIntyre hadn't got injured at the end and I knew it before watching so was sad on his behalf.
     
  6. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    I'd agree the women's match was rushed, but they fit a lot in and everyone looked good.

    And yeah, properly sucks for Drew, given how hard he's worked to get back and has already had a nasty injury while still in the indies.
     
  7. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    NXT seems to be a far better product than the main WWE roster these days, I'm not sure I'd want the call up to the main roster if I was on NXT.
     
  8. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Yeah. I'd want the pay and the audience size, but not the shit booking and the insane ideas about how to get someone over on the main roster.

    I mean seriously, we are talking about a company that thought the lesson to be learned from Daniel Bryan getting over is to repeatedly beat babyfaces all the time. And then blame them when they don't get over. Or indulge in 50-50 booking where nobody gets over. They even managed to ruin Bailey.

    NXT is great because the show is nice and short, they keep things simple, McMahons aren't all over the show making the talent play 2nd fiddle, and people are allowed to go on winning streaks.
     
  9. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Although to be more kind, there is quite a list of talent that have done well on the main roster that I wouldn't have expected to be allowed to, or in some cases even get hired at all, 5+ years ago. Strowman, Rude, Owens, Styles, Joe etc. Sadly for me this just makes me even more infuriated when the booking is shit, at the length of Raw, and the quality of many PPV matches compared to NXT and New Japan big shows.

    I might bother to watch the Lesnar Styles match from Survivor Series but it sounds like they fucked up the booking of the main raw-smackdown mens survivors series match something fierce.
     
  10. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    And I will say I'm glad we made it to an era where large wrestlers fighting big man battles is popular again, with the important distinction that many of them can actually work a really good match these days. Not like a previous shit WWE/F era where being tall and roided up to the eyeballs was enough, never mind the match quality.
     
  11. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I’m watching survivor series now and on Match 4. Every match has been great so far. This is what happens when all the top talent can shine. Brand split was a bad idea.
     
  12. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Everything bar the two traditional Survivor matches are good. The women's match is well-worked but oddly booked - completely missing out on the chance to tell some good stories - and the men's match is... well, it's what you can expect from Vince.
     
  13. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    If they don’t do lesnar vs strowman for wrestle mania they are idiots.
     
  14. Nine Bob Note

    Nine Bob Note Prickly Pollster

    D. R. E. A. M.

    Paige on Raw along with Sonya Deville and Mandy Rose (random). Expect Tuesday nights to look a little more Iconic from tonight onwards...
     
  15. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Think its still supposed to be Reigns vs Lesnar.

    Plans do change (eg it was supposed to be Balor v Lesnar for Royal Rumble but Vince has now lost faith in Balor) but they are very stubborn when it comes to Reigns.

    Also hasn't there already been a Strowman vs Lesnar match that wasn't all that great? Strowman is a strange one, he has gotten over big time but doesn't seem to be at a level where he can have a good match with everyone yet, he needs the right opponent.

    I've heard Angle vs HHH and Strowman vs HHH are planned but having seen how easily Angle and HHH end up looking a bit old/beaten up these days I'm not sure how much these matches appeal to me right now either.

    Hope to be wrong about some of these things!
     
  16. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I get the impression the shield reunion was only done to assist getting Reigns over.

    He's got better over the past 12 months, but I'd rather see more exciting talent get a chance. Strowman at least as well would have a more believable match in losing to someone like Balor down the line. imo.

    Not watched RAW but it sounded like one of the better ones for a while. More women coming in surely means a women's Royal Rumble in Jan as well, thou one would assume less contenders and possibly only 1 minute between each entrant. 30 mins tops would be acceptable.
     
  17. mwgdrwg

    mwgdrwg Be a Pisces. Jam.

    I went to RAW in Manchester the other week. It was great, the highlight for me was the Bruiserweight Pete Dunne! :D

    Haven't caught up on Survivor Series, except for seeing a gif of Triple H walking into the screen by mistake :D
     
  18. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    More NXT women on Smackdown last night so I think a women's Royal Rumble is now a cert.

    Dunne is fantastic, him and a few others had a tag team dark match on Smackdown last night.

    Rumours are back in motion about a weekly UK show.
     
  19. bromley

    bromley ...isn't as good as Lewisham.

    Meanwhile in Scotland Fear and Loathing X was decent.
     
  20. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Sounds like Dunne vs Gargano was the NXT main event this week, I haven't watched it yet. Apparently half the show is skippable as there is a lot of TakeOver recap.
     
  21. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    My only problem with that idea is that its hard to get out of my head all the memories of awful womens battle royal filler matches, featuring some women who couldn't really wrestle, that WWE used to do. Im happy times have changed, but it will take a while for those memories to fade!
     
  22. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I suspect it will get rushed, but now things like MITB have been done, i think it's expected!
     
  23. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

  24. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    We are finally about to find out whether the WWE version of broken Matt Hardy is any good.
     
  25. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    It’s ‘woken’ ;)
     
  26. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Also see Jim Johnston got released. Shouldn’t that guy be on the payroll for life for his contribution to many a great entrance theme. Pretty much made them all.
     
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  27. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    I'm half tempted by the Jericho Rock N Wrestling cruise, but cabins look tiny (unless you go uber expensive) to share, and prices as a single person are way too steep! :(
     
  28. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    He certainly made a lot of them up until recent years, but they haven't used him much the last few years and I like quite a few of the ones his successors have done (eg Nakamura, Roode). As for jobs for life, Vinces dad believed in that sort of thing but Vince mostly doesn't.
     
  29. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    I was wondering if my nephew would get into watching wrestling at some point, but I didn't want to introduce him to it for fear of getting the blame for any injuries to himself or others. Well now it turns out he must have started watching some early-evening WWE highlights program because at the weekend he knew who John Cena was, was impressed that I knew Braun Strowman had been thrown in a rubbish truck. He then proceeded to pummel me with elbow drops including one right to my eye, ouch!

    At his age all I had World of Sport!
     
  30. elbows

    elbows WoeTimer

    Seems to be going OK so far :D

     
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