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A question for the geologists out there

MikeMcc

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Immediately following the Big Bang most of the hydrogen and helium nucleui were formed, the novas from the first and second generation stars formed most of the other nucleui, especially the heavier ones. Over time individual atoms latched together to for dust motes that built up successively until they became the planets. I can quite easily understand how the gas giants ended up as relatively homogenous balls of hydrogen and helium with a dense core.

My question is more to do with our humble Earth. In the crust, why do we get seams that are richer in a particular ore? For instance a seam of gold, silver, copper, etc that can be mined. I appreciate that ores are still mostly the suporting rock and usually involve a low purity, but something made simailar atoms group togrther in physical space, rather than being spread out. So what did that?
 
at some stage in my life I've known the answer to this question, unfortunately I appear to have wiped that bit of my memory, so the best answer i can come up with at the moment is magic sky pixie fairy dust did it.

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My question is more to do with our humble Earth. In the crust, why do we get seams that are richer in a particular ore? For instance a seam of gold, silver, copper, etc that can be mined. I appreciate that ores are still mostly the suporting rock and usually involve a low purity, but something made simailar atoms group togrther in physical space, rather than being spread out. So what did that?

The greatly enhanced concentrations of metals and minerals found in mineral deposits, over normal rocks, are a result of transport, concentration and deposition at these keys sites by common Earth processes. Either these processes operated at greater rates (or greater efficiencies) than normal, or there were fortuitous combinations of processes acting in the right place and at the right time to bring about the formation of the deposit.

From this geology pdf.
 
I am not a geologist but my understanding is that the earth formed through an accretion process. All the planets formed when dust clouds slowly gathered into larger and larger bodies of matter. These eventualy became the planets (thats the very short version), but as the sun kicked off into life the heat generated by it spread to the planets and those closer to the sun had all of there volatile gasses boil off. The inner rocky planets only those chemicals that had a high boiling point could be retained. Out in the outer gas giants there mass and distance from the sun meant that Hydrogene and other volatiles could accumulate.

Initialy water was amoung the gases that boiled of off the earth. But during periods of intense bombardment from space Comets and other sources produced enough water for the oceans to form.

Oxygen was origenaly also boiled off. However it reappeared initialy as a poisonous pollution from early life. This poison threatened life on earth until a new evolutionary leap allowed some life to use this poisen and free it from the need for CO2 photosynthisis.

I am not sure entirely about how deposits form, but I think that some come from impact bombardments and others are brought up by vulacanisity. The overwhelming bulk of the worlds minirals are in very low consentrations like the famous volume of gold in sea water.

Edited: I am wrong in part about oxygen, its high chemical volativity meant it fromed rust or burnt or oxydized with other elements as well as boiling off.
 
Some ores are concentrated by being dissolved in water and deposited elsewhere, e.g. borax in desert saltflats or metal nodules around hydrothermal vents.
 
Depends alot on the metal. Things like tin and lead are often associated with igneous rocks because they dissolve in the hot water (in this instance, hot = several hundred degrees) contained therein - that's why you get lots of lead and tin mines in cornwall, the lake district, wales and northern ireland (all of which are packed full of igneous instrusions). The same is true of undersea despoits formed near hydrothermal vents. BTW, think of an igneous intrusions as a big volcano that doesn't actually break through the surface - a big blob of hot rock that rises through the cooler rock around it (like in a lava lamp), cooking it along the way (this is how we get metamorphic rocks), plus heating up and water present, which then gets splurged out as hot springs (again, often laden with metals and minerals that dissolve in hot water). Most sulphides are formed in this manner.

Unreactive metals like gold are often formed in placer deposits - they're insoluble and often reasonably inert, and usually much denser than rock, so are often carried by water or earth until they're deposited - the textbook "panhandling" placer deposit is where at a river confluence where one fast (high energy) stream meets a low-energy stream - things suspended in the fast stream will drop to the riverbed almsot instantly, and will only be able to move by methods like saltation, hence why you often get nuggets of gold and such in mountain streams.

Then you have things like sedimentary rock that's rich in iron or other common minerals (see most sandstones, banded iron formations, etc) - this is caused by water passing through these veins of iron and it washing out to sea or dropping in a river delta, usually oxidising somewhere along the way (hence why most sands are reddy or browny, and why the extremely iron-rich Mars is known as the red planet). As Mr. Dissident said, all of the free oxygen produced by the first plant life was sucked up by minerals to produce things like BIF's.

Conversely, some ores, like bauxite, are formed by water leaching away everything *but* the aluminium, typically leaving big layers of aluminium-rich carbonates (further weathering of which can leave areas even richer in aluminium, hello Australia!).

Other metals are often "attracted" to certain types of other despoits because they're attracted (or "stuck") to types of minerals formed in other despoits.

Despoits of minerals like talc, gypsum, salt(s) and most other powdery things are usually formed by a sea or river of some sort evaporating, resulting in all of the salts crystallising out. The dead sea is a good example of a likely future salt lake (think it might be drying out already TBH).

Sandstones are rocks that are eroded into sand and then re-deposited (either by water or wind), limestones are generally formed by sea creatures made of calcium carbonate dying and dropping to the (shallow) sea floor, or by coral reefs (which themselves are just massive piles of calcium carbonate).

There's all sorts of grades in between of course, as there's almost an infinite number of possibilities of what rocks are eroded/deposited where, and what they're combined with along the way. If you can get clam fossils at the top of Everest... ;)

And then, of course, all of the above methods are subject to any future geological wibblings.</briefhistoryofrocks>
 
A failed ex geologist writes....take all of the above replies and you have a pretty good picture of what is going on- it all depends on the mineral itself and the environment where its discovered
 
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