a new british civil war?

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Pickman's model, Jun 11, 2018.


it's just around the corner, the english civil war (ok british civil war)

  1. oh yes it is

    5 vote(s)
  2. oh no it isn't

    61 vote(s)
  1. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    it's been suggested on the will brexit happen thread that the process may spark a civil war.

    do you think it's on the cards and if so why?
    Poi E and Badgers like this.
  2. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic cnut, & all round knob-head.

    Not a chance.
    A380, moochedit, PippinTook and 4 others like this.
  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Every man and every woman is a star

    i'm very sorry i cocked this up and didn't make it a public poll.
  4. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

    I voted no.
    Mr.Bishie and Pickman's model like this.
  5. Another royal wedding will scupper any civil war stirrings
  6. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    Fortunately, the lack of firearms amongst the population would be just one of the factors making this unlikely.

    A military coup however? That might be a possibility given enough instability and chaos. After all, we now know there were elements of the British military and political establishment willing to at least consider this (and in a small number of cases begin planning) as recently as the 1970s......
  7. TheHoodedClaw

    TheHoodedClaw acknowledging ur soup leg

    "Prince George, you must marry to save the country! Yes, I know you're only four.."
  8. kebabking

    kebabking Unfettered ambition

    people will kill for their identity (however they define that...). if it can happen in Yugoslavia it can happen here. whether its on the cards or not is a tea leaves question and doesn't neccessarily have to revolve around Brexit - but its always a possibility.

    the possible flashpoints might be the Scottish Government doing a UDI in the face of any number of possible post-Brexit situations - how Scotland reacted to it and how the BG reacted to it would be the touchpaper - possibly something London-based, say a future MoL and LA deciding that they should set immigration policy or something and actually trying to do so at Heathrow, with the BG getting the hump.

    people who start civil wars rarely think they are starting civil wars, they think they are doing the right thing in standing up to X, Y or Z and then it will all be better - and then it goes wrong, and it spirals out of control.

    people who say 'it can never happen here' have the same mindset as people who book outside weddings in November and who 'decide' that it won't rain so they don't have to fork out for a £15K marquee: deluded.
  9. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    Wouldn’t that need some of em to divorce first? Given the age profiles and marital statuses of the main Royals at the moment?
  10. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    I'd put it around the same level of likelihood as Brexit providing the right conditions for a proletarian revolution which I understand was one of the reasons to vote for it.
    Mr Moose, MickiQ, Raheem and 2 others like this.
  11. Obviously, nothing is 100%, nothing at all. The bell curve tails of a possible civil war are (IMO) so far out as to be impossible to seriously consider seriously. we are a snivelling forelock tugger of a nation.
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  12. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Once the majority of the population in London is not British-born maybe they'll vote for an independent state, like Monaco or San Marino, Vatican City etc. They could retain links to the EU so maintaining dominance over the financial sector in Europe so economically an independent London would be very financially stable, maybe even adopt a new currency, 'the Cockney' as a nod to times past.

    Then us peasants from the home counties and beyond could storm the Oligarch Palace (a renamed Buckingham Palace) with pitchforks and flaming torches in an attempt to stop the rebel scum from seceding from the Union.
  13. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    After a couple of hours sitting on a delayed Thameslink train just outside of East Croydon, you'll give up and go home again.
  14. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Rolling on...

    Two sides facing each other, one side shaking their heads, whilst avoiding eye contact and the other side tutting loudly and looking exasperated.
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  15. LynnDoyleCooper

    LynnDoyleCooper Their heads on sticks. That'll teach 'em.

    Voting no, hoping yes.

    Who's first for the chop? Personal gripes and scores to settle only.
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  16. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Well yes the demise of the rail networks could be the first phase of ensuring outsiders can't organise themselves properly for the fight ahead.
  17. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    plenty of un needed 4x4's about, toyota hi lux fits six in the back with kit
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  18. nuffsaid

    nuffsaid But this goes up to 11

    Very good, we need more ideas like this. But remember this might take place after many more years of financial neglect to the provinces so our infrastructure, education and health systems will all be run into the ground before London announces independence. The oligarchs in charge will hope to dumb down, starve and kill off a lot of our ability to resist before they declare independence.

    If you are reading this..........you ARE the resistance.

    crikey, I've always wanted to get that into a post somewhere.
  19. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

  20. Riklet

    Riklet procrastinación

    In my lifetime I cough imagine serious political turbulence, recession, protests, violence, economic uncertainty, economic boom, attacks on democracy, more democracy, break up of the UK or a more federal UK... sure.

    Full on civil war? Erm.. no.
  21. 8ball

    8ball Most Ignoreable Poster 2016

    Yep, definitely civil war.
  22. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

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  23. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    well if you did storm a military base and get past the clouds of gloom and depression that hang around armouries spend hours cleaning rifles and see how happy you are. you then discover any ammo is in a bunker miles away you've also know equipped your valiant milita with the SA80 that will stop working if you breathe on it wrong then fall apart:(
  24. 8ball

    8ball Most Ignoreable Poster 2016

  25. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

    I visited the birthplace of Michael Collins near Clonakilty in Co. Cork, where there was a replica of Collins' armoured car made out of MDF. I don't think it cost much more to make than the 5 euro entrance fee. I think I could knock one of them up.
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  26. likesfish

    likesfish officaly hardest and most tooled up urbanite:)

    doubt its going to do much to bother a challenger 2 though or an Apache or even this bad boyI want to be a Gunner:D
  27. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Rolling on...

    MDF armoured cars! They could be formed in a ‘Shaker’ style for traditionalists or Quakers!
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  28. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Just don't let Prince Charles take the Royal Standard anywhere near Nottingham.
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  29. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

    If you throw in the dowling rods, I can do rows of Shaker style pegs round the running boards.
  30. danny la rouge

    danny la rouge beneath the paving stones, a layer of hardcore

    No, that would be evidence of a cavalier attitude.
    MickiQ, friedaweed, likesfish and 5 others like this.

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