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A New Anarchist Organisation

butchersapron said:
No he didn't, he said that were a situation such as you describe to exist (i.e almost complete automation) then the law of value would no longer exist.
Ah well, someone else explained it to me so perhaps he didn't - I have read Kapital myself. But at what point does automation undermine the labour theory of value? Surely if total automation undermines it then so does partial automation?
 
He didn't give a precise point as the process of automation is itself the outcome of class struggles, he was merley speculating (and in the Grundrisse, not capital). Give me a sec and i'll find the relavent passage.
 
"...In the degree in which large-scale industry develops, the creation of real wealth becomes less dependent upon labor time and the quantity of labor employed than upon the power of the agents set in motion during labor time. And their power ... in turn bears no relation to the immediate labor time which their production costs, but depends, rather, upon the general level of development of science and the progress of technology, or on the application of science to production. ... Labor no longer appears so much as included in the production process, but rather man relates himself to that process as its overseer and regulator ... The theft of alien labor time, which is the basis of present wealth, appears to be a miserable foundation compared to this newly developed one, the foundation created by large-scale industry itself. As soon as labour in its immediate form has ceased to be the great source of wealth, labor time ceases and must cease to be its measure and therefore exchange value [must cease to be the measure] of use value. The surplus labour of the masses has ceased to be the condition for the development of the general powers of the human mind. As a result, production based upon exchange value collapses. "
 
Larry O'Hara said:
in other words, there is no magazine--fair enough.

No, there is a magazine and you can purchase yours at the Bookfair:D

I really couldn't be bothered to play ball with you Larry. I still can't. I may get round to reading your phd one day but I am incredibly busy.
 
Kind of strange hearing another anarchist organisation is being thrown up, but I think its a question of whats needed and obviously someone thinks the UK could do better with a platformist organisation.

Best of luck
 
Breaking news:

"New parasitic tick found in armpit hair of endangered species"

Probably has a greater chance of survival.
 
Attica said:
No, there is a magazine and you can purchase yours at the Bookfair:D

Why not earlier?

I really couldn't be bothered to play ball with you Larry. I still can't. I may get round to reading your phd one day but I am incredibly busy.

Condescending or fucking what? :mad:
 
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