A Making Music Question

[dirtysanta]

Ive been tinkering on a computers for years making tunes. One thing I have always been dead against is sampling drum loops and using them, I always thought of it as lazy.

However of the past few days i've been doing this a bit and it got me thinking.

Is it so wrong to use sampled drum loops? :

What are your opinions?

I'm still feeling slightly uneasy about it but the feeling is beginning to lift as I listen to my cd's and consider sampling drum loops from them to make new music.

Dont be shy about it. Ive played bass, lead guitar and drums for years in bands. In past 8 yrs got my studio and started sampling. I wouldnt say it was lazy. In fact sampling off drums, editing the breaks, adding eq, filtering etc etc takes some perserverance. Unlike some "muscians" who cant see past the end of their nose i think the samper[B] is [/B] instrument and is no diffrent than a guitar or a set of drums. YOu still need to have a person to to play/use it therefore why shouldnt you. The way in which technology has sculpered the way we make music is fantastic. 5-10 yrs theres no way, unless you had £20k you could record music. Nowadays with a pc/mac.....logic/cubase you can can can start knocking out tunes for a couple of grand. Sampling is making music. You still end up with a finished sonic product. Its all about what you hear. Just because you sample doesnt make your song any more or less of a tune.

Sometimes you here tune where the sample is inspired...that really makes the tune.

sample away my friend.....

 

[miniGMgoit]

Can you listen to this and tell me what is wrong with it, as in the mix, is it to repetative, does it need more???
I really want to get on with it now and start getting slightly serious. I have been rehearsing doing this stuff live and will be ready very soon, but I played it to a friend last night and they said it was crap. I thought it was really good, but im not so sure now. This is the forementioned sampled beats as well.

I really would like to know what I can do to tidy it up a bit and make it worth sending off.

 

[pk]

Yep, I have to say, I'm addicted. Having DJ'd for 12 years there's always been moments where you remix a tune in you're own head. I literally could barely bring myself to leave my computer to eat and sleep once I got going at the weekend.

That's my spare time sorted for the forseeable future

Innit.

 

[Wanderer]

Can you listen to this and tell me what is wrong with it, as in the mix, is it to repetative, does it need more???
I really want to get on with it now and start getting slightly serious. I have been rehearsing doing this stuff live and will be ready very soon, but I played it to a friend last night and they said it was crap. I thought it was really good, but im not so sure now. This is the forementioned sampled beats as well.

I really would like to know what I can do to tidy it up a bit and make it worth sending off.

You've got to sign up to listen to it!!! Do you want me to host it for you so you can link to it? Would be happy to have a listen and give you some tips if needed.

 

[boing!]

Several different ways. The main thing is EQing for sure. Also, adding a highpass filter can produce a fantastic effect if you get it just right.

However, I must confess that I have cheated a little on occasion. My friend just gave me a set of Israeli psy trance kick samples (royalty free of course) and there's also a fantastic tutorial on the infected mushroom website, which I can't seem to find anymore, but I think I might have saved some JPGs at home.

Also, this thread is very useful:

http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/57339/forum/2/start/0

PM me and I'll send you the israeli psytrance kicks if you like (there are some AMAZING ones in there)

cheers, mate pm on the way

 

[Wanderer]

No problem... kick samples dispatched

 

[mwgdrwg]

Can you listen to this and tell me what is wrong with it, as in the mix, is it to repetative, does it need more???
I really want to get on with it now and start getting slightly serious. I have been rehearsing doing this stuff live and will be ready very soon, but I played it to a friend last night and they said it was crap. I thought it was really good, but im not so sure now. This is the forementioned sampled beats as well.

I really would like to know what I can do to tidy it up a bit and make it worth sending off.

Here goes...

01. The robot speak...sounds a bit muffled and I can't make out what he says at all. It sounds a bit annoying.

02. The 303's need to wig-out a bit more, they're too plain.

03. The whole thing needs more bass.

04. The tempo is far too slow for acid

05. It is slightly repetitive.

Sorry to sound quite harsh but it's not that bad. It's not up to your usual standards though.

edit: feel free to give your comments on my work in progress: http://www.meddwi.com/audio/IURW.mp3