A Libertines Poll

[The_Reverend_M]

I'm shocked so many people think they're important!

 

[118118]

The Fratellis? The Kooks?

<snigger>

But that's not even true is it?

 

[Dubversion]

But that's not even true is it?

1) it's not entirely untrue.
2) it was a gag.

 

[LDR]

The paddingtons, Neils Children, The Kooks, rasorlight, the others, the metro riots, The Delta Spirit, etc etc etc etc... have a look at the sort of bands kids aged between 15 and 21 are creating, and you'll see at least a nod to the libertines in the majority of them

You may have a point but I've not heard any of those bands you namechecked.

 

[Orang Utan]

The paddingtons, Neils Children, The Kooks, rasorlight, the others, the metro riots, The Delta Spirit, etc etc etc etc...

Er, who?

 

[Dubversion]

for the record I like the libertines, but 'most important' isn't really a musical taste thing, its a fact thing. So just because you hate/dislike the libertines, that shouldn't influence your answer to this question.

Bands that have been influenced by the libertines... a legion of indie kids really.... you might hate them all.. but thats *not* the point....

The paddingtons, Neils Children, The Kooks, rasorlight, the others, the metro riots, The Delta Spirit, etc etc etc etc... have a look at the sort of bands kids aged between 15 and 21 are creating, and you'll see at least a nod to the libertines in the majority of them

No, i'm entirely capable of distinguishing between importance and like. For example, I loathe the Beatles but i'd never be so fuckwitted as to not entirely recognise their importance.

The Libertines simply aren't very important. Out of the bands you list, i suspect only Razorlight will be around or successful in 3 years time

 

[Iam]

The Kooks, rasorlight

 

[LDR]

Was it just me who thought The Libertines sounded like an English version of The Strokes?

 

[milesy]

i've put a bounty on the heads of the kooks and razorlight. and the view.

 

[Dubversion]

Was it just me who thought The Libertines sounded like an English version of The Strokes?

not a million miles away - a little rougher round the edges and with that really annoying quasi-skank that lots of bands have started using that really gets on my wick

 

[LDR]

I like The Strokes.

 

[118118]

1) it's not entirely untrue.
2) it was a gag.

Fine

I downloaded an alan lomx collection form a soulseek "dubversion". Was it you?

Nah, cos I think that those bands may well say "yeah we like the libertines", "but we're not trying to do exactly what they did". Why would anyone, wasn't it about the chemistry?

 

[Dubversion]

I like The Strokes.

me too. well the middle album was shit, but the first was brilliant and the last one was pretty good. great live too

 

[lights.out.london]

Sorry, ohmyliver. You fail on both counts - viz,

1. the number of bands listed doth not make a legion. Or even a legion of part-timers.

2. there's not one band you name which is worth the dirt from the boots of Greg Ginn and Henry Rollins.

I too loath The Beatles. Not one penny of my money has enhanced McCartney's wealth or Lennon's estate. Just like I won't have a TV in my flat, I won't allow a Beatles CD or vinyl across the threshold. Ever.

 

[Dubversion]

Fine

I downloaded an alan lomx collection form a soulseek "dubversion". Was it you?

yes

 

[ohmyliver]

No, i'm entirely capable of distinguishing between importance and like. For example, I loathe the Beatles but i'd never be so fuckwitted as to not entirely recognise their importance.

The Libertines simply aren't very important. Out of the bands you list, i suspect only Razorlight will be around or successful in 3 years time

Erm, it was an off the top of my head, trying to pretend I'm working answer... it wasn't directed at you in particular...

I'm not too sure that razorlight will be around for 2-3 years...

 

[ohmyliver]

yeah I know, I loathe the Kooks, and Razorlight are a bit meh, but ....

 

[ohmyliver]

and with that really annoying quasi-skank that lots of bands have started using that really gets on my wick

Is that not slightly prooving my point vis a vis influence?

 

[118118]

Maybe, you wouldn't have teenage emo boys kissing one another for fun, without the Libertines. I've heard that happens now

 

[Iam]

yeah I know, I loathe the Kooks

I'll let you off, then.

 

[geminisnake]

Who?

That was my first thought too. I guess this means we are not young and trendy anymore

 

[ice-is-forming]

if it wasn't for urban i'd never, ever have heard of them, i am possibly the only person in Australia who has.

however because of cheesy i downloaded some stuff by them the other day, they reminded me a bit of the jam (but really bad) and i absolutely love the jam.

thanks for nothing cheesy

 

[Sunray]

If there can be a scale of importance in music, when you talk about bands like the Stone Roses or Oasis or Leftfield or Orbital and a shit load of others someone more muso inclined could come up with, they are on the list but quite some way down it.

 

[ohmyliver]

Sorry, ohmyliver. You fail on both counts - viz,

1. the number of bands listed doth not make a legion. Or even a legion of part-timers.

2. there's not one band you name which is worth the dirt from the boots of Greg Ginn and Henry Rollins.

I too loath The Beatles. Not one penny of my money has enhanced McCartney's wealth or Lennon's estate. Just like I won't have a TV in my flat, I won't allow a Beatles CD or vinyl across the threshold. Ever.

sorry you've just proved my point about being unable to distinquish between 'like' and 'importance'. Did you not read my post? or was the point of your post to suck up to dubversion?

 

[lights.out.london]

sorry you've just proved my point about being unable to distinquish between 'like' and 'importance'. Did you not read my post? or was the point of your post to suck up to dubversion?

I don't 'suck' anyone. Ever.

I've proven your point? Go away, fanboy. Or go google Greg Ginn and Rollins and get back to me.

 

[ohmyliver]

I don't 'suck' anyone. Ever.

I've proven your point? Go away, fanboy. Or go google Greg Ginn and Rollins and get back to me.

I'm no fan boy, I just tell it how it is, and 'influence' and 'importance' is one of the things which you *must* put your personal likes/dislikes away... erm.. I'm a trained historian y'know...

and yes I know about The Henry Rollins Band... and about Black flag... your point?

 

[lights.out.london]

erm.. I'm a trained historian y'know...

Alrighty!

e2a The Henry Rollins Band? Must have missed that one.

 

[ohmyliver]

Alrighty!

e2a The Henry Rollins Band? Must have missed that one.

ok, the rollins band, or the (henry) rollins band then... whatever

 

[lights.out.london]

ok, the rollins band, or the (henry) rollins band then... whatever

Lol. Pedants of the world....unite!

You could have stabbed me in the heart by saying "Black Flag? Who is the fanboy now, Lights Out?" I couldn't have lied.

Without writing an essay; BF and much of the DC and west coast hardcore scene laid the ground work for US punk/SXE/hardcore/New Wave (erk), No Wave and, dare I say it, for guitar-centric stuff like REM, Pavement to get an audience (college or otherwise) and stuff like Pere Ubu and Suicide to rediscover/be rediscovered by an audience (or vice-versa).

Anyway. I think my brains bled halfway through this thread and I've forgotten the point. If I ever had one.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Is that not slightly prooving my point vis a vis influence?

Only if you believe the Libertines invented "skank".