A Knobheads Guide to using Linux.

[Drarok]

I can only be certain about the CDRW question, the others will have to wait until more knowledable people show up.

If you use a CDRW, you can finalize it, and still erase the disk afterwards. There's no 'read only' mode to those disks, you can't stop people erasing them.

So, yes. You can create a bootable CDRW and write over it later.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

cheers Drarok

any more peeps ?

 

[jæd]

Right,

I've just coastered a CDR trying to burn an ISO image of Linspire I've got knocking around

If you are a newbe then use Ubuntu. There is much more support available. Linspire tries to be Windows. Do search in Google for the Ubunto homepage and eventually you will find a page that allows you to order live cds in the mail.

Oh, and have you checked the md5sum of the image...?

 

[Drarok]

I think the md5 check can safely be assumed to be not done. (Wasn't that some GREAT grammar?)

I think the issue here is, we don't know if the guy is burning the ISO onto the disc, or putting the ISO file on the disk. (And also great consistent spelling, disc, disk...)

 

[boskysquelch]

...here we go agin...*inserts dvd to burn....

 

[Throbbing Angel]

If you are a newbe then use Ubuntu. There is much more support available. Linspire tries to be Windows. Do search in Google for the Ubunto homepage and eventually you will find a page that allows you to order live cds in the mail.

Oh, and have you checked the md5sum of the image...?

md5sum = no not checked


DRAROK - spot on

I think the issue here is, we don't know if the guy is burning the ISO onto the disc, or putting the ISO file on the disk. (And also great consistent spelling, disc, disk...)

I went thru the advanced mode and it asked me for a boot image [or summat] so I pointed it at the ISO file, then it asked me fr files to burn and wouldn't let me leave this option blank so again selected the ISO file, then it tried to burn 2 640mb images to a 700mb disk :confued:

this disk now has on it 2 items:
boot.img - 655738 kb - is an IMG file
linspire live followedby lotsofnumbersetctec.iso - same size and is an ISO file

I tried booting the desktop with this and it just stayed on a black screen and did nowt, so i took the disk out and CTRL,ALT DEL'd and it boots windows fine

what am I doing wrong?
Used a cdrw by the way

think I may just purchase a DSL or BLAG disk online - I know Linspire is trying to emulate Windows, I just wanted a look see - didn't anticipate the fucking burning of an ISO image to be such an issue

p.s. on dial up otherwise I'd download DSL

 

[boskysquelch]

...here we go agin...*inserts dvd to burn....

frig


image burnt and all that bollocks...restart PC>Del to BIOS> disable HD boot>enable DVD to boot>save/start>>>>>goes thru "bits" and then get to a DOS A: prompt...LOL...whyzat then?

this is as funny as fuck...not!

 

[jæd]

md5sum = no not checked

Then check it and make sure that the iso image is ok... This is the first thing you do when downloading something so large...

this disk now has on it 2 items:
boot.img - 655738 kb - is an IMG file
linspire live followedby lotsofnumbersetctec.iso - same size and is an ISO file

You seem to be burning the iso file to the cd. An iso file is a cd in itself so if you burn the iso to the cd the cd becomes the iso. Perhaps you need to be using a better cd burner application...?

think I may just purchase a DSL or BLAG disk online - I know Linspire is trying to emulate Windows, I just wanted a look see - didn't anticipate the fucking burning of an ISO image to be such an issue

p.s. on dial up otherwise I'd download DSL

Why not just order free Ubuntu cds? http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ Its the best supported distro at the moment...

 

[jæd]

frig
image burnt and all that bollocks...restart PC>Del to BIOS> disable HD boot>enable DVD to boot>save/start>>>>>goes thru "bits" and then get to a DOS A: prompt...LOL...whyzat then?

Perhaps disable booting from your floppy drive as well...

 

[boskysquelch]

Perhaps disable booting from your floppy drive as well...

did that too...which is why I'm confused it went to that prompt...this is silly...I will try the Ubantu wozzit...but to start with I jus wanted to get 3 liveCDs working for anti_M$ Old Age Pensioner type...this is really really really silly!

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Then check it and make sure that the iso image is ok... This is the first thing you do when downloading something so large...



You seem to be burning the iso file to the cd. An iso file is a cd in itself so if you burn the iso to the cd the cd becomes the iso. Perhaps you need to be using a better cd burner application...?



Why not just order free Ubuntu cds? http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ Its the best supported distro at the moment...

cheers for the link jaed - I think I will have a look at that

as for the CD burner app question - you are most likely right!

 

[Backatcha Bandit]

image burnt and all that bollocks...

...DOS A: prompt...

You've deffo got the .iso burning thing right? In Nero ('Nero' main prog - NOT 'nero express') :

Go 'recorder' > 'burn image', then select your .iso file and burn.

What OS is already installed on the machine? How on earth are you getting a DOS A: prompt?

Type 'dir' and hit return at the A: prompt and tell me what comes up...

 

[boskysquelch]

You've deffo got the .iso burning thing right? In Nero ('Nero' main prog - NOT 'nero express') :

Go 'recorder' > 'burn image', then select your .iso file and burn.

What OS is already installed on the machine? How on earth are you getting a DOS A: prompt?

Type 'dir' and hit return at the A: prompt and tell me what comes up...

I knew you'd say that...do I have tooooo???? I know it's WRONG...LOL ,,,I'm using Nero Express...could that be why it's not working,,,I reckon there a setting somewhere I'm missing that set floppy/cd/dvd...jus lookin now...

 

[Throbbing Angel]

I knew you'd say that...do I have tooooo???? I know it's WRONG...LOL ,,,I'm using Nero Express...could that be why it's not working,,,I reckon there a setting somewhere I'm missing that set floppy/cd/dvd...jus lookin now...

during my tribualtions on this ISO thing, I read some tech guys pages where they all stated the inability of Nero to Burn linux, bootable, from ISO's

cannae recall why it wouldnae but it wouldnae

may be worth a google?

 

[Drarok]

Proper nero can, but express is an awkward beast.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

UBUNTU ordered - CD's winging their way to me as we speak no doubt

see how that plays huh

have a look squelch - it looks pretty goos & veh well supported!

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Proper nero can, but express is an awkward beast.

ahhh maybe that was it - ain't using NERO so didnae read too closely

anyone recommend a free, downloadable burning app? [off to look at that sticky recommendations thread]

 

[boskysquelch]

Proper nero can, but express is an awkward beast.

from what I can see you have to "introduce" a boot floppy in the process?

so now I have to have a boot floppy to hand?


looked around to find howto...now I have to do a 20mile round trip to find a floppy or take the shed on wheels apart lookin' for one????...see I told you Linux for Knobheads!

And now the DVD won't view/shags the PC it a Reboot to be able to read CDs burnt on me lappy....


The beach is looks very very very inviting again!


How many days is it you can go without food?


Where are those fkkn tamazzzzzzies!!!!!

 

[Drarok]

Nahh, you shouldn't need a floppy. You can boot from a CD/DVD nowadays. I haven't hada floppy drive for years.

 

[boskysquelch]

Nahh, you shouldn't need a floppy. You can boot from a CD/DVD nowadays. I haven't hada floppy drive for years.

now the PC has turned to pants agin...fkkn fkkn fkkr...jus rebooting for the 60 hunfrerd millionth time this morning...so when Nero Express says insert flooppy boot disk you ignore it...did that last time...then when reset the bios(even with A disabled) it still goes there...the iso is on the disc but the screen is say it's reading a floppy....you really want to read the dir?


Fuck the day...tamzzy in mouth ...and swallow...can you drive/ride a bike/swim on these things?

 

[jayeola]

Look I'll burn you a cd if you want. I have a couple of copies of blag as well as the latests ubuntu. would that be ok? [I'm assuming that your in england so that i can post them to you]....

 

[boskysquelch]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwr...who you talkin to?

 

[jayeola]

Um, who ever needs one. Actually I should say the geezer what started this thread, or the blokes that is trying to burn a cd. I's still recommend a live distro like knoppix or dsl in that if you don't like what you you can just give the cd away to someone else and your data is left untuouched. [I'll burn a couple of cds - I'll handle say a maximum of five requests]

 

[Throbbing Angel]

Um, who ever needs one. Actually I should say the geezer what started this thread, or the blokes that is trying to burn a cd. I's still recommend a live distro like knoppix or dsl in that if you don't like what you you can just give the cd away to someone else and your data is left untuouched. [I'll burn a couple of cds - I'll handle say a maximum of five requests]

oooooooooooh jayeola is nice!

I'll have a BLAG CD if you are offering?

squelch started the thread and we both appear to be having issues burning ISO's successfully




squelch: have you disabled A:drive totally in BIOS or just set it so that it looks there last?

I just changed the boot order [or whatever it's called] so it looks at CD 1st, then floppy then IDE/HDD

 

[jayeola]

ok then, that's a blag for squelch and throbbing. lemme burn and i'll send them to you in the post my 2nd class. I take it that you are both in the uk?

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disclaimer: jayeola will burn cd's for nuffink. The said cds will be tested for thier integrety and will be posted when md5sum is fine. No support offered apart from the occasional one-liner or replies to threads on urban. You may want to familiarise yourselves with the GNU General public lisence.

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Broken glass everywhere
People pissing on the stairs, you know they just
Don’t care
I can’t take the smell, I can’t take the noise
Got no money to move out, I guess I got no choice
Rats in the front room, roaches in the back
Junkie’s in the alley with a baseball bat
I tried to get away, but I couldn’t get far
Cause the man with the tow-truck repossessed my car
Chorus:
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Watching all the cars go by, roaring as the breezes
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[boskysquelch]

<snip of sweeeeetness>

Thankee for that...I'll PM a more lucid explanation of stuff tonight sometime...many thanks for the offer again. ,,,give us a return of addy and I'll give you a framed print...you'll just have to find a pickee of mine you like*... ,,,,hey it's a type of FreeCycle thaaaaaaang?

*have a look around the PhotoComps and stuff.

 

[stdPikachu]

when Nero Express says insert flooppy boot disk you ignore it...did that last time...

If Nero is asking for a floppy (to copy the bootable DOS files from) then you're not burning an image, you're creating a bootable DOS CD with a .iso file added. This won't work.

The ISO image already contains all the files needed to boot your machine, and you can't add anything more to it since it's a CD image. I have Nero express on this machine and on start it has a nice "What would you like to burn? ... Disc Image or saved project" dialogue. This is the one you want. You don't want to burn a "Bootable Data CD". Can't vouch for any other CD writing software as I never use them.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

jayeola

ok then, that's a blag for squelch and throbbing. lemme burn and i'll send them to you in the post my 2nd class. I take it that you are both in the uk?
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disclaimer: jayeola will burn cd's for nuffink. The said cds will be tested for thier integrety and will be posted when md5sum is fine. No support offered apart from the occasional one-liner or replies to threads on urban. You may want to familiarise yourselves with the GNU General public lisence.

OH yes, am in the UK - you want some blank media by return of post [usual arangement on here & the cost of the postage of course, or what?]

 

[boskysquelch]

If Nero is asking for a floppy (to copy the bootable DOS files from) then you're not burning an image, you're creating a bootable DOS CD with a .iso file added. This won't work.

The ISO image already contains all the files needed to boot your machine, and you can't add anything more to it since it's a CD image. I have Nero express on this machine and on start it has a nice "What would you like to burn? ... Disc Image or saved project" dialogue.

Yeah that's what I did actrually start with...as in the correct way then I thought I try the other...as in the one that wouldn't possibly make sense...as I said ...I is a knobhead. ,,, go near Linux?...500 paces from i reckons atm.... and pfffffft!

Anyways picking stuff up on the way and thaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

 

[boskysquelch]

I can see a Geeeeeeeko...

:*shimmies_thru*:


get to Burn Image to...."Image Recorder"...burn successfully...(say onto Desktop)...then burn to DVD...obvious going thru Wizardishness again to reset burn speed and drive/source....sorry if I misread everybody.


lesson learnt here.ta!