What's the point of 11 speed?
Also, what price does a 'good' wheelset start at ey ey ey?
A frame-y / groupset question, like.
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What's the point of 11 speed?
Also, what price does a 'good' wheelset start at ey ey ey?
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
It has a certain Nigel Tuffnel factor but very little would be my answer.
Good handbuilt set of wheels=£220 and up. Good factory built set=£200 and up.
Good handbuilt set of wheels=£220 and up. Good factory built set=£200 and up.
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
do yourself a favour and stay away from jejames - they're totally rubbish - as are Dave Hinde.
Ouch. The Ksyriums* are £60 cheaper than anywhere else though
(If 2008
)*and my understanding is that Ksyriums are a passable wheel thingy?
Boycey
juvenile rave slut
it goes up to 11, other groupsets only go up to 10 but this one goes up to 11.
ksyriums are decent wheels but IMO a good handbuilt set are more of an investment as you can just get them rebuilt if you knacker the rims and spokes.
This doesn't seem like such a phenomenal advantage...?
Also, what's your opinion of Bianchi frames, ey?
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
Bianchi alu frames have a very poor word of mouth reputation for cracking at the headtube and BB welds. They're nothing special, they're the Italian Raleigh. If you want Italian cudos look no further than De Rosa, Pinarello and Colnago (and I would now include Wilier who make some really high quality frames).
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
*mechanic hackles rise*
Was it you who said your most hated bike of all time is the T1?
Ahrrr...
Nope, the P4
and just about any TT bike ever produced, viz:
*shudders*
Boycey
juvenile rave slut
they are fucking hideous machines there mrs q, the overuse of aero stuff make me thing of cars with spoilers which obviously suck.
weepiper- what don't you like about cervelos? apart from the rep their owners have
(as it happens only 2 of our regulars have them and they're actually rather nice people) and the issues with putting them in a workstand which is hardly exclusive to cervelo.
weepiper- what don't you like about cervelos? apart from the rep their owners have
(as it happens only 2 of our regulars have them and they're actually rather nice people) and the issues with putting them in a workstand which is hardly exclusive to cervelo.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
they are fucking hideous machines there mrs q, the overuse of aero stuff make me thing of cars with spoilers which obviously suck.
weepiper- what don't you like about cervelos? apart from the rep their owners have
they are just horrible
we've got a special stand just for TT/tri bikes now, you clamp the front dropouts onto one end and there's a cup for the BB shell to rest on. My main beef is the internal cable routing.
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
In common with 99% of TT frames they're so ugly even a mother would disown them.
do they not have internal guides?pretty wrong either way. had a very clearly overweight (bordering obese) bloke insisting that he wasn't winning triathlons because he wasn't on one of these:
I have always thought the aero bar combi thing looks a bit like unhappy spiders. Waving.
Also, out of curiosity...
So Athena is also 11 speed, but £50ish more than Centaur.
Chorus is 11 speed, but £300ish more than Centaur. And £250ish more than Athena.
I'm guessing there is a substantial wonk up between Athena and Chorus?
Sigmund Fraud
893 all the way.
Athena is the new name for Centaur (I wish they'd make their mind up, it was previously Athena renamed to Daytona renamed to Centaur and now back to Athena again). Its £50 more cos some folk will stump that up so as not to have the hideously outdated name 'Centaur' on their bikes.
and it's now eleven speed!!!!!
I am getting quite tempted by stuff I probably shouldn't be doing right now.
weepiper
I fix the machines that fight climate change
fwiw, a mate of mine is not only the fastest female rower in either Oxford or Cambridge's last-year's boatrace; she also owns a Bianchi fixie. tbf, I wouldn't mess with her. Lovely lass that she is
I gave her Sigmund's assessment of Bianchis earlier today
She is hofficially houtraged
I gave her Sigmund's assessment of Bianchis earlier today
She is hofficially houtraged
Boycey
juvenile rave slut
everyone has bikes they hate for some reason or other, cannondale always got my goat till i worked for a shop selling them alongside one of their sponsored racers in aus. i know alot of people who call them creak n dale's or even worse crack n fails
is your friend familiar with the pistadex?
I've passed on t'link
TY!
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