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a dark day for east enders...

Groucho said:
Hackney's North London, except for Hoxton/Shoreditch which is East End along with Tower Hamlets. Walford is one half stop along from Old Street before you get to the Angel. It is not in Newham.
From BBC East Enders site:
"Walford East is supposedly on London’s District Line.

It actually replaces the real station Bromley-by-Bow on the made-up map that's shown inside. "
So you're talking bollox, Groucho.
 
I don't think Newham's East End.

I don't think Walford's in the East End, either. It looks like some little place out on the arse end of the Central Line full of wannabes. One shitty pub, all the locals interbreeding and gossiping, not even worth gentrifying.

edit: they probably claim it's on the District line to sound classy
 
Groucho said:
Walford is one half stop along from Old Street before you get to the Angel.

But... but... that'd be City Road station. Which isn't in the East End.

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* Yes, that's my anorak, the one with the Tube grime on. Ta. *
 
Pickman's model said:
wait a minute...

hackney's north london with the exception of hoxton/shoreditch? would this be the same hoxton in n1? and what about stoke newington in n16? why should homerton (e9) be north london and hoxton (n1) be east london?

It is all to do with the sound of the Bow Bells carrying on the wind. The East End has shrunk since the onset of the motorized vehicle and the erection of certain towering constructs. Not only does the sound of the Bow Bells carry a smaller distance, but the wind is funnelled by the Bishopsgate Towers away from North London - Hackney and along to Hoxton and on to Walford (which the BBC have erroneously placed in place of the real tube station at Bromley by Bow. Indeed they have placed the Queen Vic atop the very site of the former SWP National Office and SW printing Press. SWs page 12 once advertised a SWP public meeting in the Queen Victoria, Walford on 1 April.
 
rednblack said:
E8 has got to be east end :confused:

most of hoxton isnt imo, haggerston and shoreditch are where it starts imo

Where for you does Hoxton start and Shoreditch end, and where does Haggerston start and Shoreditch end?
 
Groucho said:
Hackney's North London, except for Hoxton/Shoreditch which is East End along with Tower Hamlets. Walford is one half stop along from Old Street before you get to the Angel. It is not in Newham.

How do you explain Hackney has E5, E8 and E9 postcodes? Walford is partly based on Albion Square, E8. Where is The Bill set?

BarryB
 
BarryB said:
How do you explain Hackney has E5, E8 and E9 postcodes? Walford is partly based on Albion Square, E8. Where is The Bill set?

BarryB
some south london shithole. bromley or orpington or st mary cray or somewhere like that. - terra incognita for me, i'm pleased to say.
 
Pickman's model said:
some south london shithole. bromley or orpington or st mary cray or somewhere like that. - terra incognita for me, i'm pleased to say.

and yet if you look at maps of the borough of canley, where sunhill is situated it is clearly supposed to be the on the north side of the river...

the best place to see these is sunhill control room


not that i watch the bill :o
 
BarryB said:
How do you explain Hackney has E5, E8 and E9 postcodes? Walford is partly based on Albion Square, E8. Where is The Bill set?

BarryB

And a bit of E15. How could I forget that!

BarryB
 
charlie mowbray said:
The east end consists of Tower Hamlets and Hackney plus bits of other boroughs like Hoxton ( though I finfd this debatable, especially with the HoxtonTwatisation of that area). Newham is in East London, yes, but not in the East End
eh? hoxton's about as 'east end' as Old St! :confused:
 
rednblack said:
er they are all seperate wards on the map

Yes, they are. If you include Shoreditch and Haggerston as East End it is a bit absurd not to include Hoxton.

What about Dalston?
 
Pickman's model said:
some south london shithole. bromley or orpington or st mary cray or somewhere like that. - terra incognita for me, i'm pleased to say.
they once went to evict squatters. i saw it as a kid. 14 yrs ago or so. it was st agnes place. also read about it on the website of st agnes place a while back.
 
charlie mowbray said:
The east end consists of Tower Hamlets and Hackney plus bits of other boroughs like Hoxton ( though I finfd this debatable, especially with the HoxtonTwatisation of that area). Newham is in East London, yes, but not in the East End

yeah hoxton's N1, makes no sense why it's east end... as for the hoxton twats, having lived here for a few years, i think all the nathan barleys with dodgy mullets live in notting hill, and cruise over here for work/socialising before trotting back off to their trustafarian pads. perhaps
 
BarryB said:
Yes but unlike posh Barnsbury and Canonbury its in Hackney.

BarryB
whenever i've been to barnsbury - and until recently i went there on a regular basis - it didn't seem that posh.

maybe i was jost going to the wrong places in barnsbury. :(
 
Hoxton, Haggerston, Shoreditch and De Bouvior still have large numbers of council tenants many of whom are on benefits. De Bouvior and Haggerston also have some almost suburban posh roads. Side by side with the council blocks, some of which are in serious need of repairs, the usual pissed in lifts and syringe littered stairwells, are blocks of new flats run by housing associations in much better nick. These are often small flats occupied by employed people such as teachers, Civil Servants and other white collar workers. Some of the council flats have been bought by their long term tenants and some of these have been sold on. In addition there are luxury flats built along the canal. By and large the area is largely working class, but is more socially mixed than was the case a few decades ago.

In the 80s some of the empty warehouses were converted into art studios and the likes of Damien Hurst provided the area with a trendy up and coming image. Jarvis Cocker famously moved in to a block of appartments near Pitfield Street and sometimes drunk in the Bricklayers or the Red Lion when it was still good. The clubs and bars around Hoxton Square etc are geared to young trendies and are frequented largely by visitors to the borough. It now has a trendy image.

Many of the long term locals regard themselves as Eastenders. Many do not.

When I moved in to Hoxton in the early 90s the Rough Guide described the wonderful Geffrey museum as being 'situated in one of the less savoury areas of Hackney'! Obviously the area rapidly became the in place to be once I had moved in, but I left a few years ago to live in up and coming trendy Essex.
 
Groucho said:
When I moved in to Hoxton in the early 90s the Rough Guide described the wonderful Geffrey museum as being 'situated in one of the less savoury areas of Hackney'! Obviously the area rapidly became the in place to be once I had moved in, but I left a few years ago to live in up and coming trendy Essex.

Which part of Essex is trendy? Debden, Grays, Tilbury?

BarryB
 
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