A Beautiful Mind - does Crowe's real life twatishness ruin it for anyone else?

[jasoon]

He is a prick, didnt he batter some woman, a fan, a photographer and asked to appear on Parkie in his own with no guests sitting beside him?

 

[Jayshat]

If I boycotted everyone who was a knob in real life I'd rarely watch a film of any genre, read a book or admire a painting.

People can be cunts.

Of course...

Hands up anyone who didn't enjoy Gladiator or boycotted it, one of the films of the decade?

People are knobs in all manners of ways from saying something ignorant to being hot tempered, but RC is in the public eye, and he can't curb his temper. So what?

A fine, fine actor in whatever I've seen him in...R.Stomper, Gladiator, Beautiful Mind. Seeing Cinderella man tomorrow.

That's like saying because someone portays a murderer on the screen, they're gonna be like that in real life. It's suspending belief...

And no, I don't fancy him.

 

[editor]

Gave up on the film because I thought it was utter tosh and I couldn't bear Crowe.

Turned over to Ch5 to watch some real tosh that was at least mildly entertaining - Men In Black II.

 

[spanglechick]

Ok - at the risk of murdering my own thread...

Just watched it- it was brilliant. He is brilliant. Can't think of another actor of his generation that can subsume himself to the benefit of the character as well as he.

Clearly, I have mellowed since last I saw it, and will have to see cinderella man now...

 

[BadlyDrawnGirl]

Turned over to Ch5 to watch some real tosh that was at least mildly entertaining - Men In Black II.

Cool flick.

 

[Ryazan]

Is Linda Fiorentrinowotsit in it?

 

[madzone]

I find it quite hard to determine when and where the psychotic incidents were taking place and where 'reality' stopped.

Any thoughts?

That's the point. The viewer is left wondering what's real and what's psychosis to enable you to empathise with the main character.

 

[Grandma Death]

Actors are people and as such have the same imperfections. Although I kinad agree with the sentiment-I have a real problem watching women beaters on TV without thinking what a cunt.

 

[tobyjug]

How about Cinderella Man? Anyone seen it yet? All the critics say it's great and he's ace.

Does anyone else have this problem with Crowe? Or anyone else?

If one worried about actors and actresses being total arseholes in their "private" lives one would not watch many great films.

 

[Pie 1]

Can't get to het up over Crowe, yes he seems to be a bit of a tit in reality, but he's a good actor for the most part and occansionally, an exeptional one [The Insider].

What stopped me from enjoying Beautiful Mind was that it's a sentimental load of old pony. Dreadful film.

 

[Psychonaut]

Im not watching any more films until they can assure me everyone involved is a socialist vegetarian living on fair-trade bananas .

 

[Grandma Death]

What stopped me from enjoying Beautiful Mind was that it's a sentimental load of old pony. Dreadful film.

I quite enjoyed it but Howard was incredibly selective with the facts to make Crowes character palatable for the audience. From what I read in a film mag he was a bit of a womaniser and slept with prostitutes.

Id also agree its very sentimental. Still worth watching for Crowes perormance.

 

[Jayshat]

Actors are people and as such have the same imperfections. Although I kinad agree with the sentiment-I have a real problem watching women beaters on TV without thinking what a cunt.

Are you saying RC is a woman beater? When? Who?

Sleeping with prostitutes: I reckon about 30% of men have done it. He's not original in doing it is he?

 

[nightqueen]

What is the shame in buying a News of the World?

I read such things when I am at work along with the Sun and Star because they are left about in the smoking room for people to read.. The assumption that people who read such things believe everything in it is a little bit daft. People buy such papers becasue they choose to, not because it is some beacon of truth, but because they want a bit of a laugh. Dear Deidre and suich things always make me chuckle at the banality fo it, and the plugging of things cyncally in the music and entertainmernts section-like Joe Mott's Hot!. It is usually pseudo-intellectuals of the middle class variety that have to say they feel such shame at reading a red top.

It is patronising and perhaps classist to think that all people that read the tabloids do so with seriousness.

Well said . It is rather ignorant to think that- the tabloids are meant for light entertainment and the summarys of news events.; You don't have to be 'intelligent' to know that it's not a beacon of lower class (or indeed any class) society- no single publiction is.

Back on topic- I enjoyed the film but I think it could have focused a little more on Nash's mathematical acheivements and the impact they had as I don't think they went into near enough detail on that front.

 

[Stigmata]

I guess I have to stand up for Crowe because Master & Commander is one of my favourite films ever.

 

[krtek a houby]

I just think Ryazan's being classist with "pseudo-intellectuals of the middle class variety" guff.

Sadly, I have no desire to see the film now, what with the spoilers

 

[Iam]

Sleeping with prostitutes: I reckon about 30% of men have done it. He's not original in doing it is he?

I read this as being with reference to Nash rather than Crowe.

RC - brilliant in the Insider and LA Confidential. Relatively nonplussed with regard to the rest of his films, though.

 

[Jayshat]

I read this as being with reference to Nash rather than Crowe.

RC - brilliant in the Insider and LA Confidential. Relatively nonplussed with regard to the rest of his films, though.

Forgot about LA Confidential. Fab too. Have you not watched Gladiator?? I thought everyone had. I think it's amazing. But then again I though BMind was too.

Would extra info on Nash's maths genius add to the film? I reckon not. Same as Good Will Hunting - about Maths but not really...

 

[Iam]

Gladiator was a decent, diverting couple of hours, but hardly magnificently played, imo.

And no, you're right, it wouldn't have necessarily improved the film, but I think a lot of the complaints at the time (and possibly after, too) surrounded the fact that he was protrayed as something which he may not have entirely been, glossing over other parts of his character which might have been considered "too unseemly" for general consumption. Rather than the lack of long, sweeping pans of him sat at his desk doing simultaneous equations.

 

[spanglechick]

I read this as being with reference to Nash rather than Crowe.

RC - brilliant in the Insider and LA Confidential. Relatively nonplussed with regard to the rest of his films, though.

Really - even Romper Stomper? That's the most amazing performance.

 

[Cid]

I have this problem with the likes of Charlton Heston and Mel Gibson.


I'll generally boycott whatever they're in unless the film is said to be exceptionally good - but seeing as neither of two above have starred in any film especially worthwhile my job is made pretty easy.

You not a soylent green fan then?

 

[vimto]

You not a soylent green fan then?

hmmm...making me hungry now

 

[vimto]

Really - even Romper Stomper? That's the most amazing performance.

Romper Stomper was well good.

Ms Vim hated all the animal noises...freaked her out.

Was Russel Crowe in neighbours at one point btw?

 

[spanglechick]

Romper Stomper was well good.

Ms Vim hated all the animal noises...freaked her out.

Was Russel Crowe in neighbours at one point?

He was, not as a main character though - he played a character called iirc, Kenny - who swindled Charlene's brother Henry during a darts match.

Is possible I have wasted much of my life...

 

[vimto]

He was, not as a main character though - he played a character called iirc, Kenny - who swindled Charlene's brother Henry during a darts match.

Is possible I have wasted much of my life...

Hehehe

I wasn't too sure whether it was Neighbours or Home and Away...thanks for the confirmation spanglechick.

More power to my elbow and what have you

 

[vimto]

The other guy from neighbours...Mike the biker...Guy Pierce I think his name is, he's done quite well also...

I love Kylie btw

 

[vimto]

I'm not gay

 

[spanglechick]

The other guy from neighbours...Mike the biker...Guy Pierce I think his name is, he's done quite well also...

I love Kylie btw

"Memento" now there's a fabulous movie... another LA Confidential connection.

 

[waterloowelshy]

To get back to a beautiful mind - i thought it was generally ok - but must admit the speach at the end simply blew me away - have no embarresment in admitting i cried like a baby when he gave his speech in front of all his peers soley to his wife in the audience - absoultely beatiful moment made all the more poignant and emotional by the fact that i tak it that it was actually the speech that was made in real life. Does anyone have the words of the speech by the way?

edit - just found out the speech was in fact fictional! doh! - still a tear jerker anyway!

 

[spacemonkey]

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