'9/11 Truth Movement' and Academia

Discussion in 'Compendium Of Kerrrr-azy Conspiracies' started by Dillinger4, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Don't you have a bullshit thread to start, somewhere?
     
  2. jonH

    jonH New Member

    who do you think originally came up with the idea for 9/11?
     
  3. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    I don't know. You tell me.
     
  4. jonH

    jonH New Member

    Someone from Rand?
     
  5. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Yeh?
     
  6. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    And where is this coming from?

    You just decided to make it up?
     
  7. jonH

    jonH New Member

    I don't know, but suspect it was a very powerful and sick person. They could, therefore, easily have been American.
     
  8. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    :cool:

    Well done. You just solved 9/11. I will pass on the truth to everyone I know.
     
  9. jonH

    jonH New Member

    No don't do that, just don't believe everything you're fed. There are some very sick people in the states that think nothing of destroying whole nations and their peoples, two office blocks is really nothing in comparison. I don't mean to insult you, it's just so easy to be cheated these days. :)
     
  10. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes neither achieved much. R.I.P.

    Well, the clip's worth watching I reckon, I';ve seen a few different versions of those shots, as well.

    The first impact. Something appears to hit the building, we're too far away to see what it is. And it's not entirely clear why the camera suddenly swings round to focus on the wtc at the opportune moment.

    The second one, - I've watched that one a load of times from difficult angles.
    But the plane always looked the same irrespective of the angle.

    On balance, I don't think it looks like a real plane. And iirc it looks more convincing when you see it without a plane. But I'm uncertain. I could be wrong.

    The eyewitness reports. Well the first one's a voice over. But the second, - well it certainly sounds like he saw the plane hit. So, on the face of it, assuming he's not lying, fairly good evidence that planes hit the towers I guess.
     
  11. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    I am not believing everything I am fed. Thats why I am not going to believe a claim that 'a sick person, probably then an American from the Rand/Corporation'.

    Because you have just made that up, right now.

    On that same logic, it could just as well be some islamic terrorists who have been in a war for years against the soviets in Afghanistan.
     
  12. jonH

    jonH New Member

    No one knows Dillenger4, but they were certainly sick minded and powerful.
     
  13. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    You seem to have some claim to know that it was an American, from Hollywood or the rand corporation.
     
  14. jonH

    jonH New Member

    Or Bush? Who knows and what would it matter if we did? Best just forget the whole affair.
     
  15. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    What if your mum and dad never met?
     
  16. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes neither achieved much. R.I.P.

    You complain about ad hominem attacks.:confused:
    What the fuck do you think it is to question someone's sanity?

    I think if you look over the thread, you'll notice that you started saying I was insane quite a while before I made any attack on you.

    i don't think anyone thinks that critical assessment of the sources is unimportant, except those who are certain that all the news reports are factual and beyond criticism.
     
  17. jonH

    jonH New Member

    What makes you forget your bliss?
     
  18. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    I like that you are accepting the sources that agree with your perceptions, and rejecting those that do not.

    Very rigorous of you.
     
  19. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Your posts do that for me.
     
  20. jonH

    jonH New Member

    Rigorously tell me who did it Dillinger4?
     
  21. jonH

    jonH New Member

    unsettling:D
     
  22. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    I am not making any claims. You are. So it is up to you to justify your claims.
     
  23. jonH

    jonH New Member

    my claim is that we don't know who dreamt up 9/11
     
  24. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    You just claimed it was Bush/The Rand Corporation/Hollywood/A Sick American.

    Is this not true now?

    :confused:
     
  25. jonH

    jonH New Member

    I said it could have been, no one knows
     
  26. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    You certainly don't know too much.

    Maybe that is a good reason for not taking your opinions very seriously.
     
  27. jonH

    jonH New Member

    what do you know about it?
     
  28. Demosthenes

    Demosthenes neither achieved much. R.I.P.

    I think if you look over the thread, you'll notice that I've stated quite a few times that I don't have a firm view of the matter, and that that's because there seem to be a lot of contradictory sources out there.

    Really, all I stated was that watching videos on youtube led me from a position of assuming that planes hit the towers, but a general agnosticism about who was responsible, to a position of wondering if in fact planes hit the towers.. and that I think it's worth looking at quite a few youtube videos.

    I'm definitely more uncertain now about what happened, and I haven't seen any reason for the kind of certainty that you and the editor have.

    As I don't have any knowledge of what happened, it's not possible for me to accept the sources that agree with me and reject those that don't, I just look at them all, and wonder about it.
     
  29. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    You are making a claim to not having a claim to know anything.

    Thanks for your contribution. You really added a lot to the whole debate there.
     
  30. jonH

    jonH New Member

    It's better to realise the whole thread is based on ignorance and misinformation, otherwise we might be taking ourselves a little too seriously.

    Do you know who dreamt up the 9/11 attack?
     

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