8 hours a day, five days a week of your life...
- Thread starter Brainaddict
- Start date
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Filth to the filthyzenie said:filth
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I just spotted this. Could you please only put the lyrics from good bands on my threads. Please.tastebud said:
Thank you.
BA, get off the internet & go to the park! It's gorgeous out there.
Go with a friend, if you have one!
I just spent my lunch break there & already feel much more alive.
Ps. As I was just saying to my colleague, I think ideally, I'd like a job where I could do three months here, three months elsewhere, in another part of the world, etc, etc.
(But with the same criteria as my first post on this thread).
Go with a friend, if you have one!
I just spent my lunch break there & already feel much more alive.
Ps. As I was just saying to my colleague, I think ideally, I'd like a job where I could do three months here, three months elsewhere, in another part of the world, etc, etc.
(But with the same criteria as my first post on this thread).
subversplat
writer of wrongs
I wanna job, I wanna job
I wanna good job,
I wanna job,
I wanna job that pays-
I wanna job, I wanna job
I wanna real job,
one that satisfies
my artistic needs
I wanna good job,
I wanna job,
I wanna job that pays-
I wanna job, I wanna job
I wanna real job,
one that satisfies
my artistic needs
kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
Brainaddict said:in the same place, doing more or less the same thing, and only very limited personal satisfaction (for most of us). Is it a reasonable way to spend your life? Is it necessary for society?
I asked this in a pub the other day and a girl who was listening to the conversation turned away in disgust, rolling her eyes at what a ridiculous question it was.
If this is a ridiculous question, then I like ridiculous questions
Particularly on Monday mornings.
I guess I am lucky then that I value my time more and work part time and that I also have an interesting and varied job where I am connecting and comunicating on quite a deep level most days-I do feel lucky!!
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
You might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage,
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage,
You may be a business man or some high degree thief,
They may call you Doctor or they may call you Chief
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody,
Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
'snot so bad.. I like my job, I can affect a lot of change and it's like playing with a big trainset sometimes.
Something a bit more menial would drive me mad.
Something a bit more menial would drive me mad.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
I don'ttastebud said:
But my real point originally, which I then obscured with my own wittering, was not that I'm in the wrong job or it puts me in a bad mood, it's that none of us need to be doing as much work as this at all
well i agree with that.
(it baffles me that the rest of the country don't seem to agree).
like talking a to a few lawyers recently, the standard practice for non legal aid work is to be in the office 24-7, even if you don't need to be/have completed all tasks - just being there. bizarre!
(it baffles me that the rest of the country don't seem to agree).
like talking a to a few lawyers recently, the standard practice for non legal aid work is to be in the office 24-7, even if you don't need to be/have completed all tasks - just being there. bizarre!
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Hardly an original query.....Brainaddict said:
TBH, I think the question is simplistic & naive. It assumes that the large majority spend their lives employed in humdrum tedium, forever unsatisfied yet lacking the motivation to achieve genuine change - a rather depressing interpretation favoured by wannabe hippies and workshy arts undergraduates.
Many people actually like their jobs (shock, horror!) - more often than not, those in hands on, vocational roles - the lowly paid gardener who derives great satisfaction from tending the grounds of a stately home, or the beneficent RSPCA worker who revels in nursing sick badgers back to health...
The people most likely to agree with your assertion are those stuck in boring office jobs, spending their days shuffling paper and saving up all year long to afford two weeks in the sun, surrounded by other sun burnt office workers moaning about how crap their jobs are...
And what about people who put in much more than the traditional 8 hours a day because they really want to achieve something - "something" often being the ability to break out from the pedestrian norm of 9-5 tedium?
The reality is that, for most people, if they really wanted to leave the office behind and doing something genuinely different, they could. But it would probably mean taking a (possibly big) risk, less financial security, less future security (pensions may be dull as dishwater, until you're 65 and penniless...), and perhaps most of all - imho, most people simply don't want too. Lots will talk the talk, but when it comes down to giving up the comfort of their messy desk with the attendant keyboard-cum-Pret-sushi-petri-dish, they don't actually want too. It's easy being idealistic, it's less so on a Monday morning when your career as a carefree, unicycling, crystal healing eco-warrior has left you penniless and hemorrhoid ridden, and all you can do is dream of an adjustable desk chair, central heating, complimentary coffee machine and as much stationary as you can nick....
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
But this is missing the point. The point is that the economy is structured so that unless you work the daily grind for most of your life you will have little or no security, but there's nothing necessary about this, given our current technologies etc.EastEnder said:
Now if they *like* working, that's a different matter, as long as they don't whinge when I don't want to - it's their choice to work after all, and they're part of society, so they can fulfill some of their societal obligations by helping pay for the people who don't want to work
LDR
kiwitanga
I only work if I need to and then only in jobs I enjoy. I make enough when working to tide me over when I don't and I'm lucky enough to have the skills that allow me to come and go into a job as I please. I also have the security of my Good Lady Wife to fall back on if worst came to worst. Touch wood, I never had to.
I'm not working now and I intend my next job to be only a couple of days a week unless we have kids or it's something I really enjoy.
When you are only responsible for yourself it's easy to make the decision not to work, but most people have others depending on them and need the security a job offers them.
I'm not working now and I intend my next job to be only a couple of days a week unless we have kids or it's something I really enjoy.
When you are only responsible for yourself it's easy to make the decision not to work, but most people have others depending on them and need the security a job offers them.
i can't help but think that we get it drummed into us really early on - work! work! work! i mean - given that we start the 9-5 thing when we're about four years old!zenie said:
taking career breaks, taking time off to do other things, even taking sick days ffs, is frowned upon.
people might say that they enjoy working for eleven hours a day, but i can't help but think they simply can't think of other stuff to do with their time- due to conditioning/societal norms, in regards work.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
And I can't help but agree with this.tastebud said:
Though I guess there will always be a few people who want to work for the sake of working, it is definitely a culturally induced thing at the moment. And it's rubbish.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Of course, because the rest of us are far too stupid to appreciate the de facto ideology that society assumes of us.....tastebud said:
I did the seeing-the-world bit after I graduated, now I'm doing the work-very-hard bit. I could take career breaks if I really wanted too. But I don't want too! Why? Because I'm not getting any younger and my only chance of ever getting anywhere decent to live, ever achieving some semblance of financial comfort and ensuring I'm not destitute in my dotage is to work hard now.
I'm not knocking those who chose to pursue other avenues, who are happy to take live at a different pace and not dwell on the possible downsides. But, whilst we may be hamsters running round the wheel for the Man, it's somewhat conceited to assume that we're all so naive we don't know that full well.....
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Dubious rhetoric, imho. Who works for the sake of working?Brainaddict said:
If the economy is structured as you say, then no one is working for the sake of it, they're working because they have to. In pretty much the same way that people have always had to work throughout history - indolent ruling classes aside, of course.Brainaddict said:
And you still haven't answered my question: What is your utopian alternative?
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
'some semblance of financial confort' is completely relative, isn't it? Probably equates to a lifetime's riches in another time and place. You don't want more until you have it, and then you don't want to give it up - that's my experience, and you can feel the programming kicking in.
yeah, i survived on a part-time wage for six months. and managed to save up for seven weeks travelling with the part-time wage.
it meant that i barely drank alcohol though, but i certainly read more/watched more filums in that time.
i dunno. i guess people weigh things up a bit/think about what kind of life they want, but again, i think people drink to excess to escape the routine life of 9-5.
yes, i'd work p-t if i could, the problem being that finding a job that doesn't frown upon only working p-t, is bloody hard! and why, back to that old societal conditioning thing again.
it meant that i barely drank alcohol though, but i certainly read more/watched more filums in that time.
i dunno. i guess people weigh things up a bit/think about what kind of life they want, but again, i think people drink to excess to escape the routine life of 9-5.
yes, i'd work p-t if i could, the problem being that finding a job that doesn't frown upon only working p-t, is bloody hard! and why, back to that old societal conditioning thing again.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Why do you assume there isn't?tastebud said:
Not everyone works in an office for 8 hours a day. What about all the people who become conservationists, or archeologists, or social commentators, or theologians, or gymnasts in travelling circuses.....?
There's a world of opportunities out there, but most people prefer the security of the humdrum 9-5 world.
I'm somewhat at a loss as to exactly what it is you're seeking?
Similar threads
