7 yr old boy goes berserk in zoo: kills 13 animals (Australia)

[Zachor]

Are you somehow suggesting that it's likely that the parents actively encouraged their seven year old child to do something like this?

Maybe not but they probably created the home conditions that have turned the child this way.

 

[samk]

Impressive work if he really is just seven. I doubt there is much hope for him being a normal member of society, but he has a good chance of a short but lucrative career as a mercenary

 

[Zachor]

No. You have no way of knowing this.

No but I've plently of experience of seeing what bad parents do to children and the results.

 

[cesare]

Maybe not but they probably created the home conditions that have turned the child this way.

I disagree. I see no basis for jumping to that conclusion.

 

[trashpony]

There's probably a question around why a 7 year old was unsupervised for long enough to commit such carnage

 

[girasol]

oh, I don't know, if psycopathy (?) is a genetic defect, or a result of brain damage, then I'm afraid parenting has nothing to do with it.

 

[zenie]

Ermm exactly *where* were his parents while all of this went on?

It is often said that murderers start by killing animals as children, is there any actual truth in this?

I'd also wonder exactly how he managed to bypass all the zoo security systems.

 

[DotCommunist]

that kid wants training as an assassin and his evil put to good use. Kim Jong leans down to pat cute kid on the head KAPOW icepick through the eye. You'd not see it coming from a wee kid.

 

[samk]

I'd also wonder exactly how he managed to bypass all the zoo security systems.

Either they are rubbish or he is a genius

An icepick for kim jong could be even better than assassination, a lobotomised puppet like bush he could be

 

[Thora]

Fuck sake, the poor child is only seven! Bit too soon to write him off as a psychopath.

 

[chico enrico]

Maybe he's like some child cross between 'The Horse Whisperer' and Johnny Morris and he could tell that the crocodiles were hungry?

 

[Zachor]

Fuck sake, the poor child is only seven! Bit too soon to write him off as a psychopath.

Maybe if he is treated NOW he might be rescued.

 

[Thora]

Also, lots of children are cruel to animals to various degrees, not all of them go on to be serial killers. I starved some stick insects to death once, caught loads of newts, watched baby frogs drown, tried to make bats dived into concrete etc and I'm a very normal, well-balanced adult

 

[Thora]

Maybe if he is treated NOW he might be rescued.

I'm sure he and his parents need some help.

 

[Zachor]

I'm sure he and his parents need some help.

I reckon his parents probably need to see the world from behind some bars for a while.

 

[DotCommunist]

I think you are a judgemental lunatic who needs to remove the bars you've caged your own mind and compassion in. Man

 

[Zachor]

I think you are a judgemental lunatic who needs to remove the bars you've caged your own mind and compassion in. Man

No just someone who has seen more kids damaged by shit parents than who are inherently bad.

 

[Thora]

No just someone who has seen more kids damaged by shit parents than who are inherently bad.

Yes, some parents are shit and damage their kids. This kid may have shit parents. However, we don't know that, so it's impossible to make that judgement just on the basis of this story.

 

[Zachor]

Yes, some parents are shit and damage their kids. This kid may have shit parents. However, we don't know that, so it's impossible to make that judgement just on the basis of this story.

Fair point. However, it is more likely that the parents are at fault.

 

[Yetman]

I reckon he's the bastard who killed the chooks

 

[girasol]

Also, lots of children are cruel to animals to various degrees, not all of them go on to be serial killers. I starved some stick insects to death once, caught loads of newts, watched baby frogs drown, tried to make bats dived into concrete etc and I'm a very normal, well-balanced adult

See my earlier post

I tried to be cruel to a chick once but I failed and cried for hours - but the point is: I did try!

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Here's a piece of research on the relationship between violence to animals and violence between people; it looked at teenagers, has proper statistical analysis, policy recommendations and all that...it's even current (2007) and uk based. Thought I'd post it just to inform the discussion. There's a lot of interesting stuff in it including the finding that there is a greater likelyhood for those who abuse animals to self harm and attempt suicide...oh and they're more likely to be male than female and middle class as opposed to working class.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[cesare]

Interesting powerpoint, Louis. I wonder if there have been any similar studies done on younger age groups.

 

[goldenecitrone]

By age 10 Dahmer was decapitating rodents, bleaching chicken bones with acid, nailing a dog's carcass to a tree and mounting its head on a stake.

http://www.carpenoctem.tv/killers/dahmer.html

 

[cesare]

Oh my word

 

[internetstalker]

Wow. Now this is one seriously fucked up kid.

 

[damnhippie]

i wonder if the kid has a history of cruelty to animals, but on a smaller scale and not in the middle of a damn zoo, prior to the tortoise-hurling rampage. i'd be surprised if this was the first time.

...and whether his parents knew or suspected.

 

[newme]

Unless its an open plan zoo, i fail to see how any of this could have happened, let alone why the parents of a 7 year old were apparently unaware of where their child was for half an hour.

 

[dilute micro]

They might have been off camera giggling.

 

[cesare]

Unless its an open plan zoo, i fail to see how any of this could have happened, let alone why the parents of a 7 year old were apparently unaware of where their child was for half an hour.

One of the news stories said that the security system is based on sensors and apparently he must have slipped under.