7/7 Where we in iraq or afghanistan when they flew planes ....

[Andy the Don]

There is no "civil war" within "Islam".

The aftermath of another car bombing in the sectarian/civil war with Islam.

Come on Aldebaran how can you say that there is not a sectarian war within Islam when all the evedence coming from Pakistan or Iraq points otherwise.

 

[Andy the Don]

just for refference a civil war started by the uk and usa in order to gain access to the oil in this region (near dafur..)

Any evidence for that..?? There has been civil war on & off for nearly 50 years since the countries independence in 1956.

 

[TAE]

....into the world trade centre?

This is is a comment from Jacqui Putnam who was on the edgeware road tube which blew up.

it continues:

We weren't, They were going to do this anyway."

Is anybody else fed up to the back theeth with this flag waving We've done nothing cogantive dissonence about the reasonings behind the 7/7 bombs?

Yes, mighty fed up.

Why do people pretend that there was no US military activity in the middle east before 9/11?

Even if 9/11 had been an unprovoked attack, why should that automatically mean that 7/7 was also an unprovoked attack ?

Why was there such a big difference in the US government's reaction to 9/11 VS the attack in the 1990s? Why was there such a fundamental change in the attitude towards international terrorism when the threat had been known for over half a decade?

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Any evidence for that..?? There has been civil war on & off for nearly 50 years since the countries independence in 1956.

yes the franco belgian allience rules sudan with the british running the rest after an incident which allowed them to set up a protectorate which then demanded passports to enter the different zones these occupiers then divided up the oil spoils between them and continued until the afterwards they region was divded up and the british then formed a puppet govt from people in the north of sudan this angered those in the south (see the shia/sunni splits in iraq for refference of this type of divide and rule tatic) which then caused the intial grevences this was then accentuated by the continued protection of first uk and then usa oil refineries...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Yes, mighty fed up.

Why do people pretend that there was no US military activity in the middle east before 9/11?

Even if 9/11 had been an unprovoked attack, why should that automatically mean that 7/7 was also an unprovoked attack ?

Why was there such a big difference in the US government's reaction to 9/11 VS the attack in the 1990s? Why was there such a fundamental change in the attitude towards international terrorism when the threat had been known for over half a decade?

two words

peak oil...

 

[david dissadent]

Turkey = the biggest human rights abuser in the continent of europe bar none.

you mean other than Russia, and the Turky only has a tiny part of it on the European continent.

India = systematic 2 tier sectioning of society based n the outlawed caste system and muslims aren't allow with few exceptions to hold high ranking jobs are attacked regularlly in the street and have had several attacks before the burning train incident which escalted the recent tensions, however this has been a problem since the time of ghandi and hence the partitioning and creation of pakistain... uk division plan causing the kashmir problems

Your english here is rather garbled, but the caste system is far more complex than a two tier system. The idea that the Hindu Muslim tension enimates from the 'time of Gandhi' i.e. the 1920s seems to be pretty arbitrary. Partition was a solution championed by many Muslims within India as well, so its blame on the British is simple minded. Basicaly any solution from the British on there departure would have led to huge amounts of trouble.

thus far we have scored a big fat zero in your history of the rest of the world exam care to try again to make your statment... this time try also resorting to facts... rather than bullshit...

Charming.

 

[Aldebaran]

The aftermath of another car bombing in the sectarian/civil war with Islam.

In Iraq sectarian (artificially) dividing, local, political inspired and played out tensions are the - predicted - result of a war-devastated country where every form of stability, civil service, safety, normal life conditions got wiped out by the invasion of a foreign army.

You make of this that every Sunni Muslim is "at war" with the Shia Muslims (or every sect with every other) and vice versa. You even manage to place political inspired violence in Algeria, local problems in Pakistan and the decades of war in the Sudan under the same umbrella.
Do you really believe politically insprired problems that in one nation locally result in violence mean that Muslims are in a state of "civil war" all over the world and that there hence is a civil war "within" Islam?

Islam is a religion. People who follow that religon can have disagreements and can result ot violence against others. That can't change the fact that Islam is no a human, not a country, not a region, not a society, but a religion. A religion can hardly be at "civil war" with itself, let alone "within" itself.

salaam.

 

[Aldebaran]

Turkey, the Islamic attacks in Turkey were nothing to do with the plight of Kurds, so that's a total misnomer. The Kurds appear to more secular & wish nothing to do with radical Islam, being more of a political movement.

Kurds a "political movement" and "secular"?
Kurds are an ancient people. Their origin is still point of dispute. About a week ago I finisehd the editing of a very interesting doctoral thesis of a Kurdish student who researched not only the roots of Kurds and Kurdistan (and the name "Kurd"), but also the ongoing oppression by the respective governments under who's rule they now have to live and also the Kurdish religions. It was a very demanding task to correct his work since he is not fluent at all in the language in which it had to be written and defended, but it was a very interesting, educational work to read.

And since you - typical for the non-informed - talk about "Muslim persecution complex" I must conlcude you didn't even bother to read the thread I gave you the link to.

salaam.