6th man on the moon say's "we're not alone"

[rutabowa]

Well given the possible infinite nature of space, it is possible that we are not alone. That life did not just occur on this planet but also, perhaps at other times, occurred on other planets.

It is possible there is other life out there.

maybe his space suit's oxygen regulator was on the wrong setting?

dull dull dull dull dull please think of something to say

 

[xes]

bunch of pedants and nit pickers,don't know why i bother.

*ruffles fogbats hair* I'm fine,just ask the Pixie Elders

 

[xes]

I liked what he had to say. It's always nice to hear professional people speaking about ETs. He certainly doesn't sound delusional,does he? We can pontificate who's the nutjob for believing or the nutjob for not believing all day long. Fact of the matter is,this is a man who has had contact with people at nasa,been briefed about these things. I think that he's got more weight in what he says than anyone round here.

I wonder,if any of you will believe it when Nasa do come out and say,yeah,we've got aliens on the go. It's no big deal,look at where we are in this big ass old cosmos.

 

[Signal 11]

He certainly doesn't sound delusional,does he?

If he thinks anyone other than UFO nuts is going to just take his word for it without evidence, then he is delusional.

Fact of the matter is,this is a man who has had contact with people at nasa,been briefed about these things.

Briefed about what things, by whom, and what is your evidence for this claim?

I think that he's got more weight in what he says than anyone round here.

Without evidence it doesn't have any more weight than the unsubstanciated claims of any other UFO proponent.

 

[xes]

That's your opinion,the others mine. I ask you Signal (or other skeptics),what would proof be for you? Press release,some goverment anouncement,a nasa anouncement,an alien standing infront of you. Would any of those things make you "a believer" Or would you think it was some hallucination or mass deleria or something?

 

[danny la rouge]

Oh dear. What went wrong here?

FWIW, I think that there are so many stars in the universe, and as far as we know so many planets, that it would be surprising if life had not evolved on some, including intelligent life. We have up to now no good evidence of any place that has happened outside of our own dear planet, though. Far less that any have visited us.

People saying they believe we are visited is not evidence, though. Not even if those people have credentials. It is best not to accept argument from authority; certainly some people can be experts, but experts can also be wrong or deluded or mistaken. Evidence is needed to back the story up.

What we have here is a former astronaut making the sorts of claims that many Americans make (the supposed statistics vary, and I'm not entirely sure of the veracity of those oft quoted surveys on alien abduction etc). That he is a former astronaut gives his story the interest factor, but in the end he is still just another man talking about space aliens without presenting any evidence.

 

[Belushi]

That's your opinion,the others mine. I ask you Signal (or other skeptics),what would proof be for you? Press release,some goverment anouncement,a nasa anouncement,an alien standing infront of you. Would any of those things make you "a believer" Or would you think it was some hallucination or mass deleria or something?

Any kind of verifiable evidence.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Edgar Mitchell,the 6th man on the moon has said on a live radio interview for Kerrang,that we're definatly not alone.

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/6168/6th_Man_On_Moon_Announces___quot_Were_Not_Alone__quot_/

you can listen to it there. (I've not heard it yet,will comment later)

I don't want to listen right now, but tell me this: did he see someone up there? Is that how he knows?


p.s. Buzz Aldrin, first man along with Neil Armstrong on the moon, was a committed bible thumper, and celebrated communion, right there on the moon.

Aldrin had brought with him a tiny communion kit, given him by his church, that had a silver chalice and wine vial about the size of the tip of his finger. During the morning he radioed, "Houston, this is Eagle. This is the LM pilot speaking. I would like to request a few moments of silence. I would like to invite each person listening in, whoever or wherever he may be, to contemplate for a moment the events of the last few hours, and to give thanks in his own individual way."

"In the radio blackout," he wrote later, "I opened the little plastic packages which contained the bread and the wine. I poured the wine into the chalice our church had given me. In the one-sixth gravity of the moon, the wine slowly curled and gracefully came up the side of the cup. Then I read the Scripture, 'I am the vine, you are the branches. Whosoever abides in me will bring forth much fruit.' I had intended to read my communion passage back to earth, but at the last minute Deke Slayton had requested that I not do this. NASA was already embroiled in a legal battle with Madelyn Murray O'Hare, the celebrated opponent of religion, over the Apollo 8 crew reading from Genesis while orbiting the moon at Christmas. I agreed reluctantly..." "Eagle's metal body creaked. I ate the tiny Host and swallowed the wine. I gave thanks for the intelligence and spirit that had brought two young pilots to the Sea of Tranquility. It was interesting for me to think: the very first liquid ever poured on the moon, and the very first food eaten there, were the communion elements."

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/communion.html

Should we take this to mean that God exists?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Just think: the first food and drink consumed on the moon wasn't Tang and an MRE. It was the body and blood of Christ.

 

[danny la rouge]

I ask you Signal (or other skeptics),what would proof be for you?

Any number of things might be good evidence: a photograph that could be independently tested. A bit of kit that could be independently tested. (One of those implants abductees often mention might be good). But just something that can't be explained better some other way that doesn't involve interstellar travel. (Occam's Razor).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

But to me, it's interesting that 6th bod on moon says it. Whether I am laughing at it or not so what?

What are the posting rules/guidelines????

You have to ask? Seriously we al know there are different standards applied to different posters on here!

 

[Signal 11]

Any kind of verifiable evidence.

This.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

why was he the 6th?

I was an extra in a movie called The Sixth Man.

Coincidence?

I. Think. Not.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, but none is being provided.

Extraordinary claims like: the seas will boil, the rainforests will burn...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

If he thinks anyone other than UFO nuts is going to just take his word for it without evidence, then he is delusional..

People are accepting all sorts of wild claims about global warming without evidence.

 

[Maggot]

Well yes we are obviously not alone. But the question is whether our fellow galaxy-dwellers have the kit to travel to our place.

True.

Given the size of the universe it is likely that there is life on other planets. The chances of them evolving to be intelligent enough to travel through space is pretty slim.

 

[spanglechick]

i think xes is playing with a new hyper-credulous persona, for fun.

just ftr, like.

 

[danny la rouge]

The chances of them evolving to be intelligent enough to travel through space is pretty slim.

Well, to be fair we don't know if it's slim or not; we just don't have any evidence that it's happened. What we can say is that the level of technology needed would be extremely advanced. And that the chances of them choosing us, of all the possible places in the universe, to travel to would be very, very remote indeed.

 

[chazegee]

The chances of them evolving to be intelligent enough to travel through space is pretty slim.

Erm....How do you work that one out?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

True.

Given the size of the universe it is likely that there is life on other planets. The chances of them evolving to be intelligent enough to travel through space is pretty slim.

I think the chance of it not happening, is pretty slim. Seventy sextillion stars... 250,000 galaxies.....

 

[danny la rouge]

Erm....How do you work that one out?

Space travel over the distances required would involve surmounting some not inconsiderable problems. It is reasonable to say that the technology needed would be very advanced indeed.

 

[chazegee]

Space travel over the distances required would involve surmounting some not inconsiderable problems. It is reasonable to say that the technology needed would be very advanced indeed.

There can't be anyone as advanced as us, Human arrogance lol.

 

[DotCommunist]

How does he know?

 

[danny la rouge]

There can't be anyone as advanced as us, Human arrogance lol.

Who has said that?

 

[Jazzz]

You can start to see the 'aliens really exist' propaganda popping up now. Watch for it. Before long, even editor and dannylarouge will be talking about the alien threat and the final civil liberties we must give up. This will be the final stage of the hegelian dialectic used to introduce the one world government with a microchipped, slave populace...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Space travel over the distances required would involve surmounting some not inconsiderable problems. It is reasonable to say that the technology needed would be very advanced indeed.

If they could talk that way, that's probably what a Neanderthal would say about a cel phone.

 

[DotCommunist]

There can't be anyone as advanced as us, Human arrogance lol.

Fermi paradox: where are they?

The Fermi paradox is the apparent contradiction between high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the lack of evidence for, or contact with, such civilizations.
The extreme age of the universe and its vast number of stars suggest that if the Earth is typical, extraterrestrial life should be common.[1] Discussing this proposition over lunch in 1950, the physicist Enrico Fermi questioned why, if a multitude of advanced extraterrestrial civilizations exist in the Milky Way galaxy, evidence such as spacecraft or probes are not seen. A more detailed examination of the implications of the topic began with a paper by Michael H. Hart in 1975, and it is sometimes referred to as the Fermi-Hart paradox.[2] Another closely related question is the Great Silence[3]—even if travel is hard, if life is common, why don't we detect their radio transmissions?
There have been attempts to resolve the Fermi Paradox by locating evidence of extraterrestrial civilizations, along with proposals that such life could exist without human knowledge. Counterarguments suggest that intelligent extraterrestrial life does not exist or occurs so rarely that humans will never make contact with it.
Starting with Hart, a great deal of effort has gone into developing scientific theories about, and possible models of, extraterrestrial life, and the Fermi paradox has become a theoretical reference point in much of this work. The problem has spawned numerous scholarly works addressing it directly, while various questions that relate to it have been addressed in fields as diverse as astronomy, biology, ecology, and philosophy. The emerging field of astrobiology has brought an interdisciplinary approach to the Fermi paradox and the question of extraterrestrial life.

 

[danny la rouge]

If they could talk that way, that's probably what a Neanderthal would say about a cel phone.

Well, quite. But your point is?

 

[chazegee]

Who has said that?

Well in theory, we could send out crafts over vast distances now, if you don't mind a bit of Adam and Eveing it...

 

[Maggot]

Erm....How do you work that one out?

If you look at the way we evolved, it's amazing that we got to where we are today. There are so many times when we were nearly wiped out.

The chances of overcoming war, overcrowding, disease, pollution and natural disasters to become far more intelligent than us. Then to work out how to overcome all the problems associated with long distance space travel, then to actually travel to our planet. Pretty, pretty slim.