55 East - a new 'community enterprise hub' for Elephant & Castle

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by editor, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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    If we were playing buzzword bingo, this place would score highly as it's all about entrepreneurship, hubs, social enterprise, vibrant spaces and pop up events.

    They're trying to raise £20k to do:


    Opinions, urban?
     
  2. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    Well the estates around there are being knocked down , Soon to be replaced with shiny new unaffordable yuppie hutches so i guess this is the start of the "coolness". Give it a year or two and it will be the new hackney , brixton , peckham etc etc,,. I stopped watching when Dirk appeared!
     
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  3. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    A friend of mine runs a nearby business and she's worried that this hyped entrepreneur-hubfest is going to hit her trade hard.
     
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  4. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Reminds me of when group of people, some of which I knew, approached me and asked me to be on their board of trustees, in name only, because I was a well known locally, running and supporting loads of other community projects and active with regard serious local housing issues.

    They were trying to set up a 'cafe come dance/community space' locally. They were applying for local authority and other corporate funding... My spidey senses about being used where all over the place.

    I dread to fucking think what they are charging for a coffee or one of their dance classes now. I know I need to visit and find out. I hope my suspicions are wrong. At the very least I hope there is some middle ground...I am prepared for the worst though. :/
     
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  5. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    It will and in my eyes was inevitable once the Heygate went. What you link above is the template for gentrification (stage one). My friend owned td sports on walworth road for nearly 30 year. He and others had there rents increased and offered much shorter leases, he shut down. The landlords know whats coming.
     
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  6. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    I make you right being sceptical.
     
  7. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Was a really tough call tbh. At least two of the people I had known for 10 years, them living locally that is. Decent people.

    I've moved away now (part of another gentrification story) and really haven't had call to visit for a fair bit.

    What to do though if my fears are confirmed. A difficult but necessary conversation with those that I knew/considered friends and trusted I suppose.
     
  8. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    Eat and drink as much as you can for free before you leave :D
     
  9. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Ha! Well I would prefer to walk out (if needs be) all indignant and not have them slander my name as a thief! :hmm: :D
     
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  10. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    I was more thinking you get a freebie for old time sake, politley accept , fill your boots and then let them know the score on exit :D
     
  11. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

    Hah! I am far too hot headed and honest for that longggggggggggggggg game. ;)

    Also, if they really are fucking the community over I do want it to be more of a discussion more than a FUCK YOU as I slam out the door. :D
     
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  12. sealion

    sealion Splish splash splosh

    :D
    Go get em !
     
  13. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

    For anybody that might not have been following some of the Elephant Shopping Centre 'regeneration'...

    Delancey (property developer who also bought the Olympic Village) and APG (asset management) purchased the shopping centre and Tribeca Square in 2013, to create a new 'village' of homes for rent and retail.

    The excellent campaign group 35Percent reported in 2015 that having been to an open event of the proposals, Delancey were strangely quiet about any social housing, and didn't say how much 'affordable' housing there might either. A year later, they announce Delancey's 'stitch-up' over social housing and also the local shopkeepers...

    In an update from 35Percent last September, following objections to the planning and traders, Delancey amends its plans. This still left the plans with no clear relocation strategy/plan for traders, what would happen to the very popular community used Bingo hall, and Delancey will no provide 33 'social homes' out of the 979 (just 3%). It also creates a piece of doublespeak (beyond 'affordable homes' that is), of 'social rent equivalent’. The 'affordable housing' btw, is anything but - 60% of it would need an income of £60k per year upwards.

    After a concerted period of campaigning and protests, the Southwark Planning Committee postpone the planning review meeting until the New Year. Some of this came off the back of details of the University of Arts (UAL) had been working with Delancey in the hope to get a quick sign-off.

    It came back to the table in January, where the proposal was rejected, but not refused. Delancey came back shortly and hinted at some concessions - to look at how they protect (but not actually protect it) the bingo hall, but would only go as far as 116 social rent homes. Oh, and a fucking 'box park' for displaced traders.

    But they couldn't even honour the social homes concession, and when Delancey submitted their amended proposal, they backtracked on this and only firmly offered 74 social homes, whilst "a further 42 are ‘pending resolution of grant funding and/or final viability review'.

    Another episode of doublespeak, slippery and threatening when they don't get their own way developers, councils tied up in straitjackets of their own making, long-established local businesses being pushed out, 'affordable housing' that is anything but, and more displacement of social tenants. Another day in the 'regeneration' roundabout, that will be all very familiar reading to those here that have been watching this in action in Brixton, Haringey, etc.

    (I refused to link to any of Dave Hill's articles in the Guardian about any of this - too full of concern trolling and moderate Labour back-slapping).
     
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