5 a day but no potatoes
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Stig said:not if it's iceberg lettuce.*
Apparently the darker green it is the more nutritious it is.
You're right. Iceburg is mainly water
I suppose if you put half a lettuce in there it would count.I think I've tracked down the rumour
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1782313,00.html
That said, smaller portions "count" in Japan, but:
So the five a day is indeed marketing, not analytical nutrition.
That is, the question to which it is the answer is not "what is optimum" but "what number is most likely to encourage people who live on mince and tatties or on burgers and fries to eat some bloody vegetables?".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1782313,00.html
That said, smaller portions "count" in Japan, but:
So the five a day is indeed marketing, not analytical nutrition.
That is, the question to which it is the answer is not "what is optimum" but "what number is most likely to encourage people who live on mince and tatties or on burgers and fries to eat some bloody vegetables?".
the phone rang and I got disoriented.I think it is a sad state of affairs when governments have to encourage people to eat fruit and vege - fruit and vege should be part of every day life. They are the basic building blocks of our diets (or should be, where I live fried chicken and french fries seem to be the 2 staples).
Personally I cannot imagine not eating fruit and vege and always have done.
I get so fucking angry when I think of all the children growing up believing that turkey twizzlers, processed french fries and processed cheese are normal and apples, carrots, and animal products where you can tell that there might have been an animal in field at the end of it somewhere are weird and disgusting.
<...thinks wistfully of childhood at Granddad's allotment...>
<...remembers fondly robbing apples and plums from orchards and stuffing face with them...>
<...wanders out to put brick through window of local fried chicken house...>
Every school kid should be taken to a PYO at least once a year to educate them on where the food comes from and how f'ing delicious fresh stuff is.
Personally I cannot imagine not eating fruit and vege and always have done.
I get so fucking angry when I think of all the children growing up believing that turkey twizzlers, processed french fries and processed cheese are normal and apples, carrots, and animal products where you can tell that there might have been an animal in field at the end of it somewhere are weird and disgusting.
<...thinks wistfully of childhood at Granddad's allotment...>
<...remembers fondly robbing apples and plums from orchards and stuffing face with them...>
<...wanders out to put brick through window of local fried chicken house...>
Every school kid should be taken to a PYO at least once a year to educate them on where the food comes from and how f'ing delicious fresh stuff is.
Mrs Miggins
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vipper said:
More cookery classes in schools might help as well.
Mrs Miggins said:
I agree. I liked the thing Jamie Oliver did where he showed a class of children what went into Turkey Twizzlers.
Maybe what is needed is education for parents as well, children's eating habits are learnt from and enforced by those of the parents. There was an episode of "House of Tiny Tearaways" recently where a child had the usual eating problems and, lo, Daddy would only eat chips and burgers and was repulsed by real food. Strangely enough when Daddy was backed into a corner and tried other things the kid did as well.
Mrs Miggins
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I totally agree.
I was brought up eating proper home cooked food and so that's what I now do. I can't bear convenience food. I mean, I'll eat it sometimes when i fancy it but day to day, it just feels wrong to eat "instant" food.
What I don't understand is how it all broke down. When did people stop cooking?
I was brought up eating proper home cooked food and so that's what I now do. I can't bear convenience food. I mean, I'll eat it sometimes when i fancy it but day to day, it just feels wrong to eat "instant" food.
What I don't understand is how it all broke down. When did people stop cooking?
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vipper said:
Maybe truer than you think. Most of the estate kids around where I grew-up made extra pocket money picking fruit & veg on various farms & many ordinary families timed holidays around the fruit picking season where they went-off to big farms & camped for a week or two. Keeping a portion of what you picked for your own/family consumption was always part of the deal.
Nearly all this has gone the way of Gangmasters & imported labour who are kept as far from the public gaze as possible & treated like shit for it.
WouldBe said:If 5 portions a day was essential the human race would probably dies out centuries ago.
How many portions of fruit and veg did a caveman get through a day?
True, however cavemen didn't sit in front of a PC all day reading U75 messageboards!
Nor did they fill their diets with fried processed food.
WouldBe said:
It's not essential as in life or death but a proper diet can prevent illnesses and cancers. 1/3 of all cancers are diet related.
In my case, I feel physically and mentally better when I eat well, it's also empowering. When I eat lots of junk food I feel sick, bloated, lethargic etc....it doesn't kill me but I don't like it.
Also, there's the issue of weight. If you based your diet on mainly veg and fruit, followed by complex carbohydrates, then proteins, then essential fats you'd be fit and healthy!
Mrs Miggins said:
So was I, and I still do. Sometimes I eat takeaways. Sometimes I have fish & chips without a vegetable in sight. Sometimes we eat freezer meals. Most of the time we cook from scratch though. I don't think there is anything wrong with the odd bit of it. Just not every day.
I think I was lucky because my parents where into the whole self sufficiency / good life / cottage in the country thing and so I was bought up on home grown stuff and grim 70s wholefoods (still love carrott cake though).
Mrs Miggins said:
I think it was the whole "convenience" thing - there was a period of time when these new products came out and nobody thought they were bad and suddenly Mum could just wack it in the oven or spend £9.99 on a KFC bucket and it was easier. And those kids grew up thinking it was OK and now their kids think it is OK.
They were eaten by sabre toothed tigers and trampled on by mammoths though before they had time to develop heart disease.WouldBe said:If 5 portions aday was essential the human race would probably dies out centuries ago.
How many portions of fruit and veg did a caveman get through a day?
pogofish said:Maybe truer than you think. Most of the estate kids around where I grew-up made extra pocket money picking fruit & veg on various farms & many ordinary families timed holidays around the fruit picking season where they went-off to big farms & camped for a week or two. Keeping a portion of what you picked for your own/family consumption was always part of the deal.
Nearly all this has gone the way of Gangmasters & imported labour who are kept as far from the public gaze as possible & treated like shit for it.
Couldn't agree more with a lot of the comments olong these lines. Kids do learn there eating habits from their parents. In my own experience, I used to eat a lot of convenience foods throughout the week as my folks both worked and were invariably too tired.
When we went on holiday though, I used to help out on the farms of various friends and cousins and get a big bag of veg to take home at the end of the day. Knowing where the food came from (animals as well as veg) made me appreciate it a lot better and I actually started enjoying my fruit and veg.
Mrs Miggins
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I work for a management consultancy (in a support capacity mind you) and their latest wheeze is to try to pursuade a large French supermarket that ready meals is the next growth area for them. They just don't have them in France you see. I want to punch the twats (the management consultants that is, not the French).
They also work for fucking Sodexho who supply those shitty school meals.
I think I might have to leave soon.
They also work for fucking Sodexho who supply those shitty school meals.
I think I might have to leave soon.
Mrs Miggins said:
I think that is just the effect management consultants have on people.
I spent a week near perpignan in march and one thing I absolutely loved was the monster Carrefour supermarket - there were signs up declaring how all the produce was local unless stated. The lettuce had mud on them and were huge. The peppers were not that uniform shape and full of taste. They had mushrooms that looked like mushrooms you would find in a field. It was brilliant. Whilst Mrs Vipper and the little Vipper were playing on the beach I was buying stupid volumes of local produce and eating it all.
Edit to add:
Don't leave, they will always be assholes unless people inside the company voice opinions that are different. Say what you think instead.
Apparently pulses only count as one portion, no matter how much of them you eat.
Does anyone know if this applies to all pulses, i.e. if you had lentils with one meal, and baked beans later on, would that count as only one portion, or two?
Does anyone know if this applies to all pulses, i.e. if you had lentils with one meal, and baked beans later on, would that count as only one portion, or two?
i_hate_beckham
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2 i believe. You can't eat 5 carrots and go there's my 5 a day though.gloryhornetgirl said:Apparently pulses only count as one portion, no matter how much of them you eat.
Does anyone know if this applies to all pulses, i.e. if you had lentils with one meal, and baked beans later on, would that count as only one portion, or two?
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vipper said:
What heppens if they are greedy little fuckers and eat loads of "free" fruit and get stomach ache . I doubt that will encourage them to eat fruit and veg !
Mrs Miggins
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Savage Henry said:
That's just a rite of passage that all kids should experience to teach them a lesson about being greedy little fuckers
