2012; David Shayler Predicts Doomsday - In Drag

[butchersapron]

a) he did predict doomsday in drag - the drag part is something he put forward as part of it.
b) one single poster says he felt sick on seeing him in that drag (so what?)
c) ergo your strawman claim 'a bunch of grown men getting together to as much as say "Eww, a tranny, doesn't it make you sick?"' falls.

 

[Fedayn]

In ther words, criticise the picture, what he's wearing, his unknown sexuality, which no one did, and you're a schoolboy homophobe.... What a fucking joke.

 

[In Bloom]

b) one single poster says he felt sick on seeing him in that drag (so what?)

Something that you've all defended and continue to do so.

As for "so what?", do you really not see what's wrong with somebody responding to a picture of a man in drag by saying "that makes me feel sick"?

 

[_pH_]

You're a grown man now QoG! That In Bloom, insulting your gender like that, bang out of order!

 

[butchersapron]

Something that you've all defended and continue to do so.

As for "so what?", do you really not see what's wrong with somebody responding to a picture of a man in drag by saying "that makes me feel sick"?

If you see a bloke walking down the street and think he's an ugly fucker you're probably also a homophobe because we all know that what you think of non-essential characteristics of a person who is a member of a certain group is what you really think of all the characteristics of everyone who may be in that group.

I can't believe this useless liberalism and identity politics shite you're coming out with.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

As for "so what?", do you really not see what's wrong with somebody responding to a picture of a man in drag by saying "that makes me feel sick"?

Criticising a comment on an internet bulleting board, which was having a laugh at the lengths a dodgy self publicist is willing to go to, may not be the best way to defend and promote the rights of transvestites. In other words get a sense of perspective.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Dillinger4]

I would.

 

[butchersapron]

Actually, i understand now - if you don't fancy David Shayler dressed in a leopoardskin print mini-skirt, a disgusting filthy top, a horrendous ill fitting wig and make up applied by a child with whooping cough you clearly hate all transvestites and also gay people into the bargain. I've been turned round on this one.

 

[In Bloom]

If you see a bloke walking down the street and think he's an ugly fucker you're probably also a homophobe because we all know that what you think of non-essential characteristics of a person who is a member of a certain group is what you really think of all the characteristics of everyone who may be in that group.

And I'm absolutely sure that had Shayler been wearing men's clothing in that picture, Divisive Cotton would have said the same thing. Yeah?

 

[QueenOfGoths]

You're a grown man now QoG! That In Bloom, insulting your gender like that, bang out of order!

Yeah! The sexisit! Would it be wrong of me to say David Shaylor has better legs that I do

 

[Random]

And I'm absolutely sure that had Shayler been wearing men's clothing in that picture, Divisive Cotton would have said the same thing. Yeah?

Don't you think Shayler looks ridiculous and pathetic in that picture? Saying that transvestites can't ever look bad is terrribly patronising and assumes any man ina dress needs to be defended at all times.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I wonder if Shayler is secretly still with MI5, they may have done a pension top-up deal with him or something and he is working under deep deep cover. Who would suspect a conspiracy theorist who has gone even more gaga?



probably

 

[Random]

Can anything DS said before about MI5 be taken seriously now? Did he have documentary evidence for any of it?

 

[In Bloom]

Actually, i understand now - if you don't fancy David Shayler dressed in a leopoardskin print mini-skirt, a disgusting filthy top, a horrendous ill fitting wig and make up applied by a child with whooping cough you clearly hate all transvestites and also gay people into the bargain. I've been turned round on this one.

It's not about whether you fancy him or not, as you well know.

 

[editor]

Incidentally, fuck you all.

Good grief. What's the matter with you?

 

[In Bloom]

Don't you think Shayler looks ridiculous and pathetic in that picture?

I think he was already a pretty ridiculous and pathetic figure, that he dresses like one of the fat slags and doesn't know what he's doing with make-up is neither here nor there.

 

[Random]

I think he was already a pretty ridiculous and pathetic figure, that he dresses like one of the fat slags and doesn't know what he's doing with make-up is neither here nor there.

I think this is actually a fairly huge leap of ridiculosity personally. But it seems you take the general point - and aren't beyond describing him as a 'fat slag' yourself. So what exactly was it that pushed your button when other people did it?

 

[Philip Pomper]

No, it's ok because it's Shayler. Stop knee-jerking you proud anarchoid gender bender defender.

Fuck you!

 

[Random]

Fuck you!

I bet you're a homophobe as well, pomper. Why do you never post up pictures of Russian in drag?

 

[In Bloom]

I think this is actually a fairly huge leap of ridiculosity personally. But it seems you take the general point - and aren't beyond describing him as a 'fat slag' yourself. So what exactly was it that pushed your button when other people did it?

What pissed me off is people honing in on the drag thing, I just don't see what's so important about the fact that he's wearing a skirt.

and aren't beyond describing him as a 'fat slag' yourself

I meant the cartoon characters, not Shayler himself (who actually looks pretty thin, compared to his previous appearance).

 

[Fozzie Bear]

What pissed me off is people honing in on the drag thing, I just don't see what's so important about the fact that he's wearing a skirt.

I have to say that the cross-dressing wasn't exactly an expected part of Shayler's already quite unpredictable trajectory.

So it is fair enough to comment on it - people, in general, do comment on this sort of thing.

 

[In Bloom]

I have to say that the cross-dressing wasn't exactly an expected part of Shayler's already quite unpredictable trajectory.

So it is fair enough to comment on it - people, in general, do comment on this sort of thing.

There's commenting and then there's taking the piss.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

There's commenting and then there's taking the piss.

Yes there is.

And there is taking the piss because someone looks ropey and there is taking the piss because someone has decided to crossdress.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

If anyone's taking the piss here it's Shayler.

 

[In Bloom]

Yes there is.

And there is taking the piss because someone looks ropey and there is taking the piss because someone has decided to crossdress.

It's funny that there's this sudden focus on Shayler's appearance when he cross dresses. I don't recall his (never that great) looks or sense of style being brought up so much before.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It's funny that there's this sudden focus on Shayler's appearance when he cross dresses. I don't recall his (never that great) looks or sense of style being brought up so much before.

He was previously criticised for being a loathesome foppish public school boy type who looked like a fucking toad.

 

[osterberg]

He was previously criticised for being a loathesome foppish public school boy type who looked like a fucking toad.

And what's wrong with toads? Speciesist!

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Some of my best friends are toads.

 

[untethered]

It's a pity that this digression on Mr (?) Shayler's attire has denied the opportunity of discussing his statements with the seriousness they deserve.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Shayler strikes me as someone who has been got at. The plot to kill Gadaffi and some other stuff he and Annie Machon go on about seem plausible enough. So when he says that him being called David is strong evidence he is the messiah, it easily (and usefully) discredits his other wibbles.