20 - 30p added to everything ... AGAIN!
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poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Do you not think it might be worth looking for a better job?
Most of the jobs in my field of work (clerical admin) pay about the same.
This is what's happening to low-paid Londoners (and probably eslewhere) - we're being priced out of existance.
Crispy
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It's the route to happiness! All it requires is less of that workshy laziness!Do you not think it might be worth looking for a better job?
Seriously though - the current food price increases have several causes - rising oil prices, poor crops this year due to weather, and vast amounts of corn being bought up to feed the emerging ethanol industry. All three of those things are only going to get worse going into the future, without some serious changes to how we organise our energy and food supplies.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
At the moment I do what you do and earn £25K P.A.; you've obviously got a lot of experience doing what you do, how come you're earning so little?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Because the bosses are under no obligation to pay more.
Even your £25K (gross or takehome?) doesn't sound like a fantastic amount of cash if you live in London, tbh...
Crispy
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It's more than enough if you don't have any dependents. I was on much less than that when I moved to london and got by just fine - as do millions of others.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Gross, net is about £18K, £1500 pcm. Admittedly, I've always minimised my outgoings by co-habiting with partners or house/flat shares, but if I weren't paying off a ton of ccard debt I'd have about £800 a month disposable income after rent, bills and travel...
_angel_
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It sounds like a fantastic amount of cash to me! (Provided you're sharing a house/ no dependents)
zenie
>^^<
It's the route to happiness! All it requires is less of that workshy laziness!
Not saying he's lazy but if you're struggling that much with no reprieve you do have to look at your options. I am aware that out of the capital clerical work in the public sector pays really shit wages though.
Crispy
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I did have my tongue very firmly in my cheek thereNot saying he's lazy but if you're struggling that much with no reprieve you do have to look at your options. I am aware that out of the capital clerical work in the public sector pays really shit wages though.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
When was this? The cost of living in Lodnon was just about possible up to the early 2000s - at which point rent-prices just became absurd overnight. Since then there's been relentless heating, food and other increases while wages have stagnated. The recent few years have just become impossible.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
monkeygrinder earns significantly less than that, and always has far more disposible income than me. No debts, you see.
anyway. milk has not gone up by 40p this year. It just hasn't.
anyway. milk has not gone up by 40p this year. It just hasn't.
Crispy
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I moved to London in 2002, and didn't get a substantial pay raise till 2003-4. I pay exactly the same rent today as I did back then. I was on 18k at the time, and I still spent less than I earnt, quite easily. I did share accomodation, though. Is there a reason you can't do the same? It really does help lower living costs.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Think yourself lucky you do not have to pay for childcare. Together with increases in gas, electricity & in April council charge I can see an era of belt tightening. Which let's be honest would do the country good. Now if I could just get the wife to turn off the heating when she goes out I could save on my heating bills.
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
Have houses gone up by 20-30p too?
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Possibly - but that brings it's own problems. The number of horror-stories I've heard from others who have done this and say "never again!" is shocking.
And a bedsit with shared bathroom facilities isn't much to ask and shouldn't be charged athe extortionate rate they are. I mean, it's not exactly a several-bedroom house, is it? It's literally ONE ROOM!
25k isn't really that much more than the rent on a bedsit (OK, decent studio), travel and food, though...
_angel_
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Why does everyone think this would do the country good.
Poor people already tighten their belt. The rich ones won't have to. We'd still get bombarded by endless 'celebs' going on about their latest shoe purchases...What's good about poor people having to go without?
Everyone keeps saying 'provided you're sharing a house/no dependents.'
But isn't the main problem in the UK right now (supposedly) that nobody's having kids...
Kanda
Diving wanker
There's tons of good stories too, nearly everyone I know lives in shared accomodation. I have lived in many shares in the 8 years I've lived in London and not had any problems worth mentioning. You pay the premium for having a place of your own. That's what's shit about London, it's fucking expensive to live on your own.
I can afford to live on my own, I don't want to though, I like living in shares, they're not ALL bad, just like EVERYTHING hasn't risen in price by 60p in 2 months!!
Spion
I hear ya
Prob because they're getting scarce too
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Well said. How many times do the poor have to listen to the "we must all make sacrifices" shtick - which invariably means "YOU must all make sacrifices" in reality?
_angel_
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Well, that's a reason not to live in London and move somewhere cheaper.
I appreciate what people are saying but if you want to not share in London, it is going to cost you.
nb: Poster should move to Leeds....
Spion
I hear ya
He's an accountant. You have to excuse him that handicap
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Given how every tube and bus journey nowadays resembles a creche on wheels (all about 4 - 6 years old in those silly 3-wheeled armoured personnel carriers), I find that hard to beleive...
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
you can live on your own on a low income. I used to pay £420 month for a studio flat in zone 4.
I mean, it was in a pretty grotty area, but you end up compromising something for that bit of privacy - it was worth it to me.
and don't go without lunch, ffs - at least have some porridge. There was a point where i was living on soup and brekfast cereal... but at least i ate 3 meals a day.
I mean, it was in a pretty grotty area, but you end up compromising something for that bit of privacy - it was worth it to me.
and don't go without lunch, ffs - at least have some porridge. There was a point where i was living on soup and brekfast cereal... but at least i ate 3 meals a day.
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