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20,000 Met Police Officers to wear body cameras

Except that although unlawful, the plod will still have that all encompassing get out for stopping you doing anything because "terrorism", and I'd wager that in the moment they'd choose potential ticking off for over extending their powers and confiscating and 'accidentally' deleting footage from a camera than risk being caught doing something which would have them prosecuted.



https://netpol.org/2012/07/27/a-rough-guide-to-filming-the-police-during-a-stop-search/
yeh if it's one person but not if it's a dozen or more
 
Except that although unlawful, the plod will still have that all encompassing get out for stopping you doing anything because "terrorism", and I'd wager that in the moment they'd choose potential ticking off for over extending their powers and confiscating and 'accidentally' deleting footage from a camera than risk being caught doing something which would have them prosecuted.



https://netpol.org/2012/07/27/a-rough-guide-to-filming-the-police-during-a-stop-search/

Not that I don't recommend filming the police. I just suggest doing it covertly so they don't know.

The onus is on them to prove its for terrorism purposes, it even says filming normal policing is not generally considered as terrorist activity

“it would ordinarily be unlawful to use section 58A to arrest people photographing police officers in the course of normal policing activities… An arrest would only be lawful if an arresting officer had a reasonable suspicion that the photographs were being taken in order to provide practical assistance to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism”.
 
The onus is on them to prove its for terrorism purposes, it even says filming normal policing is not generally considered as terrorist activity

I realise this, but that doesn't stop them taking your camera unlawfully anyway and then, even if proved to be an unlawful months down the line, they can then just apologise for dealing with 'a difficult situation' wrongly but claim it was all 'heat of the moment' stuff and 'decisions had to be made in a split second and <insert whatever additional excusable soundbite here> for which the media will be told there will be an internal inquiry and yadda yadda... the cop will keep their job. Oh and guess what, the footage was accidentally deleted while in our possession. Sorry.

...because that would be a much more preferable outcome to having to face up to your own police brutality/murder in court if the evidence wasn't confiscated for 'terrorism' purposes.
 
This is deeply worrying from my pov (a perspective that I might agree on Pickman's on!).

The direct thing that I would be concerned about is that you develop a degree of verisimilitude with regard to police cams that no suspect would be ever able to counter.

While on the face of it the proposed policy may seem to make the police more accountable, it would, in effect, make them immeasurably more powerful.
 
This is deeply worrying from my pov (a perspective that I might agree on Pickman's on!).

The direct thing that I would be concerned about is that you develop a degree of verisimilitude with regard to police cams that no suspect would be ever able to counter.

While on the face of it the proposed policy may seem to make the police more accountable, it would, in effect, make them immeasurably more powerful.
yeh they'd be walking cctv cameras.
 
OTOH, the amount and quality of footage available to be collated, edited, and given a cheapo voice over and title sequence before being flogged to ITV is going to be huge

It would be fascinating to know how the editorial meetings of "Police, Camera, Action!" and similar shows are conducted...
 
Buy yourselves one of these, and a large-capacity memory card, and keep it in your shirt pocket:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141556528936

It looks just like a pen, and it even works as a pen.

But press the button on the top, and you are recording reasonable quality video and audio of everything happening in front of you. And unlike when you pull your phone out and start waving it about like a camera, people generally don't even notice that you are videoing them, and so don't start getting aggressive and telling you to "put that fucking camera away" etc.

Costing less than a tenner, OK maybe twenty quid with a memory card, but hardly "James Bond" prices!
 
Is that a joke?

Back in the good old days of the '70s and '80s, some of us used to make contemporaneous notes if we saw SUS busts happening. The OB hated it. A significant minority of the time, though, they let the "suspect" go because the pretext for the original stop didn't stand up, and the coppers would rely on provoking the suspect into saying or doing something he could be nicked for.
Holding the OB to account, whether through video surveillance or note-taking, is never a joke.
 
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