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1970s Cardiff City chants - what's your team's?

Pickman's model said:
fuck off! :mad:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/tubcfc/songs&chants.html

incidently, the last match i was at was the dull 0-0 draw between fulham & celtic (in the hoops end).

i hope some sort of apology's forthcoming.
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Certainly not. I will never believe that any football fans have ever sung about tins of salmon from the co-op. It simply doesn't make sense. And if you try to sing it yourself, you will soon discover that it is IMPOSSIBLE anyway. It doesn't rhyme, it doesn't scan, it isn't even about anything that normal people would recognize. Its rubbish, quite frankly. Tell me the truth: have you ever actually *heard* anyone sing this ridiculous song? Or is your knowledge derived exclusively from dodgy websites?
 
:rolleyes:

and the exhilarating chants you so fondly recall have fuck all to do with the cardiff equivalent of charlie george &c and a lot to do with knives and that. :rolleyes:

if you want to make out that you had nothing to do with the fighting and that it was purely for the sport of watching 22 men play the beautiful game, you've a very strange way of doing it.
 
ernestolynch said:
I've heard that Salmon song, a Zulu mate at Uni used to sing it. Been in Americkay too long, Phil?
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Well yes, I can see how a Zulu might sing such a song, obviously. But a Brummie? Never.
 
phildwyer said:
Certainly not. I will never believe that any football fans have ever sung about tins of salmon from the co-op. It simply doesn't make sense. And if you try to sing it yourself, you will soon discover that it is IMPOSSIBLE anyway. It doesn't rhyme, it doesn't scan, it isn't even about anything that normal people would recognize. Its rubbish, quite frankly. Tell me the truth: have you ever actually *heard* anyone sing this ridiculous song? Or is your knowledge derived exclusively from dodgy websites?
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i can quite readily believe people have sung that song at football matches as i've heard some very strange football chants in the past. whether it was put in between all the other brum chants for a joke, i do not know. nor do i much care.

if you are now reduced to saying that it doesn't scan &c, it's a fucking massive climbdown from saying i invented the fucking thing.

and i'm most surprised you'd not recognise a can of salmon.
 
Hmm, I suppose the difference with this is the personal touch with the Aberfan chant, and hence crosses the line. The most recent I can recall is to the Leeds fans of slitty throat gestures and 'Istanbul'.
If they sang about the war of the roses, despite the deaths, I would say it was fair game.
( Cardiff have on numerous occasions crossed it, as a 16 yr old I joined in the chants , don't do the sick ones now and think like a lot of , 'lads' as well, that it's out of order ).

The last time I went to Burnley ( mid 90's ) someone had painted Aberfan over each turnstile entrance... it got the desired effect.

I think if you throw shit then you can expect shit to be thrown back. It's just as you get older you realise what's acceptable banter and what's not.
To the kids of today I expect it's just as exciting, not least because you never have to do any fighting.
 
ernestolynch said:
Is that yr vain attempt at humour? Or do you really know fuck all about football?
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Actually, I can't really imagine a Zulu singing it either, now that I think about it properly. Face it: the song just does not exist. And if it did, it would be the stupidest song in the world. Although those Zulus did sing some pretty good chants in that film with Michael York, but they weren't about salmon from the co-op, they were about chopping Michael York's balls off. And so are football songs. They're not about salmon, they're just *not.*
 
phildwyer said:
Actually, I can't really imagine a Zulu singing it either, now that I think about it properly. Face it: the song just does not exist. And if it did, it would be the stupidest song in the world. Although those Zulus did sing some pretty good chants in that film with Michael York, but they weren't about salmon from the co-op, they were about chopping Michael York's balls off. And so are football songs. They're not about salmon, they're just *not.*
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you've seen the fucking song on a fucking website.

do you not believe the evidence of your own eyes?
 
phildwyer said:
Actually, I can't really imagine a Zulu singing it either, now that I think about it properly. Face it: the song just does not exist. And if it did, it would be the stupidest song in the world. Although those Zulus did sing some pretty good chants in that film with Michael York, but they weren't about salmon from the co-op, they were about chopping Michael York's balls off. And so are football songs. They're not about salmon, they're just *not.*
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you don't seem to know anything about fucking cinema, let along fucking football. :mad:
 
Pickman's model said:
you've seen the fucking song on a fucking website.

do you not believe the evidence of your own eyes?
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I do--and what I've seen with my own eyes, in 35 years of attending football, is NO-ONE singing that salmon song, EVER. Not even once. I don't believe in silly websites where anyone can just put up anything to take the piss out of gullible twits like you. I repeat my question: have you *ever* heard the salmon song sung by anyone, other than Zulus?
 
phildwyer said:
I do--and what I've seen with my own eyes, in 35 years of attending football, is NO-ONE singing that salmon song, EVER. Not even once. I don't believe in silly websites where anyone can just put up anything to take the piss out of gullible twits like you. I repeat my question: have you *ever* heard the salmon song sung by anyone, other than Zulus?
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i haven't heard it. but then i'm an arsenal supporter and we don't play birmingham every season.
 
Pickman's model said:
and the exhilarating chants you so fondly recall have fuck all to do with the cardiff equivalent of charlie george &c and a lot to do with knives and that.

if you want to make out that you had nothing to do with the fighting and that it was purely for the sport of watching 22 men play the beautiful game, you've a very strange way of doing it.
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You still don't get it, do you?

Terrace culture in a working class ground in the 1970s wasn't the middle class affair you might witness at a hoity toity Premiership match in the 2000s.

Watching City from the terraces as a kid in the Seventies was a mix of sheer excitement/terror/joy/apprehension as the mighty Bluebirds took on big teams like Real Madrid and Man Utd in an atmosphere charged with testerone.It was exciting as fuck.

The hoolie chants were part of the terrace culture (at Cardiff), whether you had the slightest interest in having a scrap or not. That's how it was in those days: no prawn sandwiches and barely any women around either.
 
RubberBuccaneer said:
To the kids of today I expect it's just as exciting, not least because you never have to do any fighting.
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There's one group of kids that run round for about half an hour after the game at Pool, ringing each on their mobiles in search of some mythical brawl that's supposedly going to happen. Never seems to.
It makes me laugh to see about 20 of em running off from the bus stop following one lad who's shouting 'it's kicking off down here' - then they slink back about three minutes later looking a bit sheepish and muttering,

yeah, mate, yeah,
we'd have done em., yeah, if we'd have been earlier,
yeah.
fuckin had em.

They would shit a brick if they met any proper hooligans
 
phildwyer said:
I do--and what I've seen with my own eyes, in 35 years of attending football, is NO-ONE singing that salmon song, EVER. Not even once. I don't believe in silly websites where anyone can just put up anything to take the piss out of gullible twits like you. I repeat my question: have you *ever* heard the salmon song sung by anyone, other than Zulus?
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i suppose the grauniad fell hook line and sinker for it too. :rolleyes:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/Distribution/Redirect_Artifact/0,4678,0-613995,00.html
 
phildwyer said:
Although those Zulus did sing some pretty good chants in that film with Michael York, but they weren't about salmon from the co-op, they were about chopping Michael York's balls off. And so are football songs. They're not about salmon, they're just *not.*
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michael york? :confused:
 
editor said:
You still don't get it, do you?

Terrace culture in a working class ground in the 1970s wasn't the middle class affair you might witness at a hoity toity Premiership match in the 2000s.

Watching City from the terraces as a kid in the Seventies was a mix of sheer excitement/terror/joy/apprehension as the mighty Bluebirds took on big teams like Real Madrid and Man Utd in an atmosphere charged with testerone.It was exciting as fuck.

The hoolie chants were part of the terrace culture (at Cardiff), whether you had the slightest interest in having a scrap or not. That's how it was in those days: no prawn sandwiches and barely any women around either.
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i am quite familiar with the difference between old trafford or ninians park now and how they were in the era to which you allude.

i just think you're understating the influence of the hoolies on why you went to the ground.

still, there you go. laters.
 
editor said:
You still don't get it, do you?

Terrace culture in a working class ground in the 1970s wasn't the middle class affair you might witness at a hoity toity Premiership match in the 2000s.

Watching City from the terraces as a kid in the Seventies was a mix of sheer excitement/terror/joy/apprehension as the mighty Bluebirds took on big teams like Real Madrid and Man Utd in an atmosphere charged with testerone.It was exciting as fuck.

The hoolie chants were part of the terrace culture (at Cardiff), whether you had the slightest interest in having a scrap or not. That's how it was in those days: no prawn sandwiches and barely any women around either.
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So the middle classes pushed hooliganism out of football and started letting women in? The bastards, come the revolution :mad:
 
phildwyer said:
Certainly not. I will never believe that any football fans have ever sung about tins of salmon from the co-op. It simply doesn't make sense. And if you try to sing it yourself, you will soon discover that it is IMPOSSIBLE anyway. It doesn't rhyme, it doesn't scan, it isn't even about anything that normal people would recognize. Its rubbish, quite frankly. Tell me the truth: have you ever actually *heard* anyone sing this ridiculous song? Or is your knowledge derived exclusively from dodgy websites?
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We used to sing a song about celery, so I don't see why Birmingham City can't sing about tins of salmon.
 
I was working in Cardiff for a few months and went along to a few games - this would have been a couple of years back. I managed to get into the playoff at Bristol City the season CCFC went up and it was fucking mental - I remember a few of the songs the ed mentions getting sung then.

That was shortly before Sam Hammam's bouncer smashed the fire alarm at QPR's hotel before the final, which I suppose is as much aggro as you get these days...
 
this might not be the right thread, but if there was about enough people whose team were playing in London, fancy a meet amongst the footie lot on here?
 
This is a fucking ace thread, I started two similar threads on my teams fans forum.

Here

and here

and I understand what Ed is trying to say, I too didn't like the thought of innocent people getting battered etc, but I still joined in on the chants of "you're going to get your fucking head kicked in" and I would follow the hoolies for the thrill of the chase/chased.
 
editor said:
Watching City from the terraces as a kid in the Seventies was a mix of sheer excitement/terror/joy/apprehension as the mighty Bluebirds took on big teams like Real Madrid and Man Utd in an atmosphere charged with testerone.It was exciting as fuck.
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As long as you watched the terraces rather than the game.
 
Pickman's model said:
i am quite familiar with the difference between old trafford or ninians park now and how they were in the era to which you allude.
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It's NINIAN Park, for fuck's sake!
:mad: :mad: :mad:

And it's clear you haven't the slightest clue about football in the 70s.
 
editor said:
It's NINIAN Park, for fuck's sake!
:mad: :mad: :mad:

And it's clear you haven't the slightest clue about football in the 70s.
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Ninian's Park, home of the famous Cardiff Cities, where the fans will riot if their salmon isn't chilled properly. Goal attempt from the penalty arc!
 
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