17 November Conference Reports Part 1 - Respect Renewal. Bishopsgate

[Fisher_Gate]

There's some interesting posts on the Oz elections on Socialist Unity.
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=1118

Apparently the Australian SWP affiliate, the ISO, were reduced to handing out Green leaflets and knocking up for the Greens on polling day, while at least the Socialist Alliance had something rather more positive (not to mention socialist) to campaign for a vote for.

But the ISO cannot actually join the Greens as a group, as the Greens have a ban on socialist groups joining them - unlike those 'right ward moving' broad parties described in the SWP Pre Conference Bulletin ... like Respect, Die Linke and the Portuguese Left Bloc. Funnily enough, the Oz supporters of the SWP in their new-found enthusiasm for the electoralism of the Greens don't seem to be accusing them of running witch hunts. (even though the Greens did drum the DSP out of membership in the early 1990s and initiate a ban on all socialist groups).

If the ISO publicly dissolve and conduct an entry operation on the Greens it will be bad news all round, but it does not look like they have anywhere else to go.

It's also interesting that the Socialist Alliance and Socialist Party (CWI) had a friendly non-aggression pact, and each called for votes for the other. The ISO refuse to vote for either. Maybe we could be heading that way in Britain?

 

[sunshine1]

The future is for socialism

Their will be many out there who like me are bitterly disappointed, that the past hundred-plus years of Labour Party in government, have left capitalism firmly in power.
Labour governments did not enact socialism, but sought to reform capitalism and all too often were indistinguishable from pro-capitalist governments. The Labour Left are defeated, marginalized and still irrelevant inside Brown's party, or just trying to sit it out at home and hope that the nightmare of life in Britain today, just goes away. Well the fact is that it won't, if we sit back and do nothing, this is the time to stoke the fire that still burns in the hearth of discontent.

I did not know what to expect when i attended the Respect Renewal Conference almost two weeks since, but i tell you this i came back home rejuvenated and reconverted to activism by the strong moving arguments propagated at this event, stone crumblies, wood rots but peoples will never die. I believe that the very purpose of life is to be happy and the right of every man women and child to live free from the wants of shelter of hunger, it is still undeniable in this world today that capitalism is unable and unwilling to meet the needs of the world's population. It has not done so in the past, it does not intend to do so now, and it is not going to do so in the future. We are not interested like New Labour, in the production achieved under capitalism, but only with the part that meets all human need. We are not interested like New Labour is in armaments production.
The vast amount of money and resources that are given to the military, tanks, ships, aircraft, nuclear weaponry and air delivery system's do not contribute to meeting the needs of human beings as we socialist understand them. We are only interested in production which provides for life not the destruction if it.

Capitalism dose not go on producing commodities which it knows it cannot sell at a profit. The many millions of unemployed throughout the world bear testament to this because they cannot be employed at a profit, and then on the other hand i read about an Indian Steel Foundry in West Bengal, a vision of manufacturing hell. Shirtless, barefooted men carrying buckets of molten metal, their bodies dripping with sweat, most not even wearing eye protection, working conditions that seemed inhumane a century ago. In the American city of Detroit, the home of Fordism, hard time's have arrived with a vengeance. The State of Michigan has lost 400,000 jobs in the past seven years. Unemployment in Detroit is running at 8% twice the national average. The number of homes repossessed is among the highest in the country.

Back home in good old Blighty, the prime minister Gordon ( Brown Nose ) Brown, announced skills and employment reforms at the recent CBI conference which amount to yet more attacks on people in recite of benefits, saying that the unemployed had not only an obligation to seek work but to take up training, proving that this Labour Leader sees the vast majority of those that have nothing more than only there labour-power to
sell to the owners of industry as a cheep form of slave labour thats readily available.

The Joseph Rowntree report 'Monitoring Poverty and Social Exclusion 2006' makes it clear that living standards are falling amongst the in work workforce with 1.7 million families experiencing some sort of poverty risk, it says that the number of children needing help to escape poverty has gone up, as indicated in the following statement. "In our view, it is a failure to recognize the extent of in-work poverty that is the fundamental threat to the child poverty strategy. Indeed, as a statement fact the crucial proposition that work is the route out of poverty cannot be true when in-work poverty accounts for half of all child poverty".

Homelessness and starvation are resident in every capitalist country the world over, you only have to visit a food handout in Central London's, Lincoln's Inn Fields, any night of the week and see the most dispossessed not only homeless but deprived of all security that most of us may take for granted, much of the world that George Orwell described in his books of the conditions he had observed, well for alot people they still exist.

The reason that I'm posting this is to say that i know the class to which i belong too, and that it obvious that the working class, as the exploited class have an interest in achieving emancipation, Labour is no longer the party of workers and has not been for some time, and it has to be said neither is the SWP especially after the events of the last two weeks. I believe that Respect Renewal is our best opportunity for over 60 years, the time has come comrades to fill the void of nothingness, a whole altogether.

I urge you do not delay, join today, and be with us.

"This above all: to thine self be true, and it most follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man".

 

[audiotech]

I'm convinced George, where do I sign up?

 

[nosos]

I urge you do not delay, join today, and be with us.

 

[nwnm]

Councillor Oliur Rahman's windows were smashed again last night, and he was warned by local people to stay away after they saw people acting suspiciously outside his home.

This is the latest incident in a campaign of violence and intimidation against Oliur Rahman, including a physical attack and threatening emails and phone calls, since he and Councillors Lutfa Begum, Rania Khan and Ahmed Hussain resigned the whip of the councillors group in Tower Hamlets in protest at the leadership of the group.

Councillor Rahman said "I'm amazed that people can think that this violence is the way to solve anything. This is supposed to be a democratic society, where everyone should be prepared to resolve their differences through the political process, not with bricks and boots.

"It's an attempt to intimidate me, but I refuse to be intimidated. If they feel that by intimidating me that they will get me out of politics, they will have a very long wait. I condemn violence against anyone, in any circumstances. Anyone who believes in democracy should do the same."

 

[butchersapron]

Stop your accusatory spamming please. Or at least keep it on one thread.

 

[Das Uberdog]

Quit your mealy-mouthed blubbering.

 

[treelover]

welcome to P/P Sunshine, nice post, even if you are a member of RR,

 

[sunshine1]

Respect in a new world

welcome to P/P Sunshine, nice post, even if you are a member of RR,

Thank you comrade for your kind words they are very much appreciated and warmly received.

Yes unashamedly i am a member RR of nearly two weeks standing. You may ask me why and i will tell you because i want to work for or to words a world in which all the productive wealth of the world belongs to all the people of the world.

No multi-national or transnational corporations, therefore nobody will own the world. It will be possessed by all its inhabitants. It's people will make all the decisions freely in there communities, in regions and globally. With the existing and new means of information technology and mass communications this is possible.

Instead of producing goods and services for sale and profit, the sole reason for production will be to satisfy needs and desires.

A society in which everyone owns everything, decides everything and only produces anything because it is needed and useful, a world in which all will have free access to what is produced. We do not have to live in a world of wages and salaries, how about a world which you contribute what you can and take what you need.

This will be a new world a world of respect, unlike the system of law and order that ensures the right of the minority to exploit and impoverish the majority.

New Labour serve the system, a system which guarantees that the minority class in society and all over the world have the legal right to own and control the means of life. I have become a member of RR because human life is not pegged to a price tag, its value is something more than what is sold, we all have to sell our labour in order to live.

"But capital not only lives upon labour. Like a master, at once distinguished and barbarous, it drags with it into its grave the corpses of its slaves, whole hecatomb's of workers, who perish in the crises".

Marx

 

[nwnm]

I'm sorry, thats longer than 2 words georgie