14 year old american kid arrested for taking homemade clock to school

[likesfish]

Plus:

What could be more american that that
Q how are you getting to the whitehouse
A first class the school is paying

 

[Orang Utan]

this kid built a nuclear reactor and he only got nicked cos he stole some smoke alarms:
David Hahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[1927]

What could be more american that that
Q how are you getting to the whitehouse
A first class the school is paying

Even an American would have punctuated that post better!

 

[DaveCinzano]

this kid built a nuclear reactor and he only got nicked cos i nicked some smoke alarms:
David Hahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The 1994 arrest was because police had received a call regarding a young man apparently stealing tyres from a car; the theft from smoke detectors arrest came in 2007.

 

[kabbes]

In what comic book universe do the cops live that they think that real world bombs actually look and tick like clocks? Do they think that they also have big red LED countdowns? Fuses that hiss? Ffs.

 

[toggle]

In what comic book universe do the cops live that they think that real world bombs actually look and tick like clocks? Do they think that they also have big red LED countdowns? Fuses that hiss? Ffs.

the reports seem a little confused, but i have an impression that the police didn't think it was a bomb, but since someone in the school had raised concerns they arrested him because it looked enough like a bomb to have worried people and was therefore a bomb hoax.

oh, and this is a town where the mayor has been trying to gain attention for 'taking on Islam' which is an easier way for her to get lots and lots of attention and keep her job than actual local achievement.

Dispute over Islam lands Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne on national stage

 

[DaveCinzano]

Do they think that they also have big red LED countdowns?

Well, yes, they do think just that

 

[Bonfirelight]

there's a great interview with one of the cops on the BBC where he says something like
"we attempted to question the juvenile what it was and he would simply only tell us 'it's a clock'. He wouldn't tell us what it was for.."

 

[DaveCinzano]

there's a great interview with one of the cops on the BBC where he says something like
"we attempted to question the juvenile what it was and he would simply only tell us 'it's a clock'. He wouldn't tell us what it was for.."

Textbook Al-Qaeda SERE technique - "it's a clock" is well known as their version of "I can only tell you my name, rank and serial number"

 

[DaveCinzano]

Fuses that hiss?

And TBF hissing fuses still have their place. Within living memory, Philly cops strapped two trench-blasting pipebombs to a block of C4, lit a hissing fuse, and dropped the device from a helicopter onto a house full of brown-skinned people to great effect (if nearly a dozen corpses, including five incinerated children, and sixty homes burnt to the ground is the kind of effect you are aiming for).

 

[likesfish]

Well if your going to build a bunker on top of a load of wooden town houses that what tends to happen

 

[DaveCinzano]

Well if your going to build a bunker on top of a load of wooden town houses that what tends to happen

Pretty sure police dropping bombs on residential neighbourhoods over noise complaints is not what would be generally understood by the phrase "what tends to happen". Or burning children to death after claims of child endangerment are received (unless one is an advocate of the 'to save them you must annihilate them' school of parenting).

 

[SpookyFrank]

this kid built a nuclear reactor and he only got nicked cos he stole some smoke alarms:
David Hahn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Are you sure that wasn't an episode of the Simpsons?

 

[Idris2002]

 

[Cid]

Well, yes, they do think just that

Where, exactly, is the explosive bit supposed to go?

 

[D'wards]

Bit of a naus up by the cops, but blimey this is a mountain out of a molehill

 

[pesh]

Well, yes, they do think just that

they must have been watching that Naked Gun film where Drebin diffuses the bomb by tripping over the cable and unplugging it.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Where, exactly, is the explosive bit supposed to go?

DID NOBODY CHECK THE KID'S SHOES?!?

 

[krink]

what would be funny is if he went to the white house with his clock and it was a bomb all along! comedy gold.

 

[jusali]

Just goes to show how fucking SCARED Americans apparently are?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Just goes to show how fucking SCARED Americans apparently are?

A lot of this so-called "fear" is just a power grab. If we're in the middle of a terrorist attack you really can't question what leadership is doing, now, can you?

 

[likesfish]

Pretty sure police dropping bombs on residential neighbourhoods over noise complaints is not what would be generally understood by the phrase "what tends to happen". Or burning children to death after claims of child endangerment are received (unless one is an advocate of the 'to save them you must annihilate them' school of parenting).

Move were armed nutters who wanted to fight the police.
Philly police were racist dicks who were happy to give them that fight .
One copper had already died in a confrontation with move in 78 and the whole thing had been building for years the bomb was incredibly fuckwitted but police don't train to bunker bust.

 

[tonysingh]

And TBF hissing fuses still have their place. Within living memory, Philly cops strapped two trench-blasting pipebombs to a block of C4, lit a hissing fuse, and dropped the device from a helicopter onto a house full of brown-skinned people to great effect (if nearly a dozen corpses, including five incinerated children, and sixty homes burnt to the ground is the kind of effect you are aiming for).

i'm pretty ignorant of that incident, it's left me more than usually bewildered. Could you enlighten me maybe or send us a link so i could read a little? Thanks.

 

[gentlegreen]

I was amazed I'd never heard of it.
But I was otherwise distracted in 1985.

move philadelphia - Google Search

MOVE Bombing at 30: "Barbaric" 1985 Philadelphia Police Attack Killed 11 & Burned a Neighborhood | Democracy Now!

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Zuckerberg posted on his facebook that the kid should have been rewarded for showing ingineuity and offered him a day at facebook towers. Which i thought was a nice thing to do.

 

[DaveCinzano]

i'm pretty ignorant of that incident, it's left me more than usually bewildered. Could you enlighten me maybe or send us a link so i could read a little? Thanks.

Here's the wiki on MOVE:

MOVE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This contemporaneous NYT summary of the MOVE Commission report - which is hardly sympathetic to members of the MOVE community - shows how scathing that report was of City Hall and the Police Department:

EXCERPTS FROM COMMISSION'S REPORT ON BOMBING

ETA: Am at work so rushed the above.

Basically MOVE was an African-American green anarchist/anarcho-primitivist (i.e. anti-technology/civilisation) group/community which developed in the 70s and into the 80s in Philly.

Their beliefs put them at odds with many people, not least the police and city officials, but also their neighbours, thanks to eccentric behaviour. A police siege of their original community house (in pursuit of their eviction) in 1978 ended with a dead cop, several wounded and nine MOVE members gaoled for life.

They then moved to another house, with similar tension between themselves, the police/city officials and neighbours.

Finally the Mayor decided to have them removed from that house, with a three-man police team concocting a ludicrous plan of DROPPING A BOMB ON A CITY NEIGHBOURHOOD HOUSE as a means of persuading the occupants to leave. The bomb was dropped by helicopter, and almost immediately caused a dangerous fire which threatened to spread to the whole row of houses on the street. Police and Fire Department bosses colluded to prevent firefighters from tackling the fire. Five children and six adults (all MOVE members) perished in the fire. Only two people survived. Dozens of neighbouring houses were also destroyed by the fire, with hundreds made homeless.

Here's a report and a photo gallery of the aftermath of the bombing

USATODAY.com - 1985 bombing in Philadelphia still unsettled
USATODAY.com - The 20th anniversary of the MOVE bombing

MOVE on the bombing, 30 years on:

"Thirty Years After MOVE Bombing: What Has Law Enforcement Learned?" an article by reporter Linn Washington. – On a Move

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Kid not only has an invite to the White House, he has an invite to Facebook HQ

And a twitter blue tick!

 

[ViolentPanda]

A friend of mine with the ACLU says that ACLU Texas is on the case.

I'd heard that the ACLU have a Texas branch.
I believe his name is Bob.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'd heard that the ACLU have a Texas branch.
I believe his name is Bob.

I'm shocked they have an ACLU chapter in Texas too. I figured anyone with the ACLU would have been lynched long ago.

 

[nogojones]

I was amazed I'd never heard of it.
But I was otherwise distracted in 1985.

Let the fire burn is a really good documentary on the event. Well worth watching, though pretty depressing

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