100 Brixton Hill change

[tarannau]

So have you got around to asking the b/f how long ago that was?

The chap who appeared to own the tent place was a strange old cove. I wouldn't put it past him to have had some dreams of restoring it to its former glory.

How long ago are you talking ago Lang? My mum's first job in Blighty was working for the guy who owned that Tent & Tarpaulin store and a number of enterprises. We're talking over 30 years ago admittedly, but a remarkable bloke by all accounts - a hefty but notoriously generous mediterreanean geezer who, amongst other unusual initiatives, apparently managed to sell considerable amounts of army surplus gear and uniforms to 'both sides' in the Middle East.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

apparently managed to sell considerable amounts of army surplus gear and uniforms to 'both sides' in the Middle East.

 

[lang rabbie]

How long ago are you talking ago Lang? My mum's first job in Blighty was working for the guy who owned that Tent & Tarpaulin store and a number of enterprises. We're talking over 30 years ago admittedly, but a remarkable bloke by all accounts - a hefty but notoriously generous mediterreanean geezer who, amongst other unusual initiatives, apparently managed to sell considerable amounts of army surplus gear and uniforms to 'both sides' in the Middle East.

It must be almost fifteen years since I saw him (IIRC I was trying to get something that I would previously have been able to get in the basement of Prattts in Streatham, and they closed in Summer 1990)

I'm now getting pulp fiction visions of ground to air missiles stored between the seats of the auditorium, and covered with dust sheets, with a brilliant cover story that the building owner is a cinema enthusiast.

 

[Giles]

If the "tent and tarpaulin" place IS up for sale, can someone note which agent is selling it and then make an appointment and go round and see exactly what you do get? Or at least post the selling agent's phone number up here?

I thought the old auditorium had ceased to exist (read this on a web site about old cinemas somewhere I'm sure).

Does anyone KNOW they want £1M for it? If so, that makes me think that there IS an lot of space still out back, cos if a shop across the road rents for £15K per annum (which sounds about right) then that would only imply a freehold value of £250 - £300K.

Edited to add:

According to the Brixton Society's web site, the auditorium no longer exists.

Brixton Society link

Giles..

 

[clandestino]

If the "tent and tarpaulin" place IS up for sale, can someone note which agent is selling it and then make an appointment and go round and see exactly what you do get? Or at least post the selling agent's phone number up here?

i'll note down the number on the billboard next time i go past - unless minnie the minx beats me to it of course.

would you be interested in buying it? what would you do with it?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Well it seems that The Dawn of the Raj (latterly known as Onyx) is now to become Wasabi Noodle House, so it looks like the Japanese have got the vote.




Maybe the place opposite that's up for sale (next to Christines) will become a Thai place

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

i'll note down the number on the billboard next time i go past - unless minnie the minx beats me to it of course.

would you be interested in buying it? what would you do with it?

It's got a movingspace.com billboard there. I looked the other day and I looked on the website but it just lists loads of other estate agents and I didn't really know where to start. Sorry. I'm sure Lang Rabbie can navigate his way around though.

 

[lang rabbie]

Weak and feeble woman!

Links include pictures confirming it.
http://www.vebra.com/home/includes/vdetails.asp?src=agent&fd=469&bd=0&db=5&cl=3403&pid=9249357

Brixton Hill, Brixton, London For Sale
£1,000,000

Freehold property located on Brixton Hill offered for sale with the benefit of A3 classification order previous uses have included a cinema. The site curtilage contains an area of 2439 square feet. The site has significant development potential subject to planning; please forward all enquiries to The London Borough of Lambeth Planning Department. There is scope to expand the site to encompass the adjacent property (99 Brixton Hill) the freehold of which is available through Movingspace.com.
2352 Sq m / 25315 Sq ft Type : Land

The Onyx restaurant is also listed:
http://www.vebra.com/home/includes/vdetails.asp?src=agent&fd=469&bd=0&db=5&cl=3403&pid=9268265

Brixton Hill, Brixton, London For Sale
£350,000

Single story freehold A3 restaurant unit located on busy Brixton Hill (A23), the premise is well served by local bus routes and is approximately one kilometer from Brixton Underground station (Victoria Line). The property benefits from great street presence with glass and aluminium joinery, the gross external width measures approximately 14 feet. The restaurant comprises 707 square foot of open plan floor space with sepearte mens and womens WC the kitchen measures approximately 172 square feet. The kitchen benefits from ancillary storage area to the rear. The premise comprises approx width of 13' with a depth of 53' and height 7'.

Type : A3 Catering

 

[gaijingirl]

Well it seems that The Dawn of the Raj (latterly known as Onyx) is now to become Wasabi Noodle House, so it looks like the Japanese have got the vote.

I wonder who's gonna run it? My Japanese housemate is utterly fed up with the massively exploitative job she's doing at the moment.. maybe she could get a job there... any ideas how I can find out who's running the place??

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

I wonder who's gonna run it? My Japanese housemate is utterly fed up with the massively exploitative job she's doing at the moment.. maybe she could get a job there... any ideas how I can find out who's running the place??

Well if you get there before they shut up you should be able to knock on the door and ask. I got home around 5.45pm last night and saw people in there. Got home around 6.00pm the other night and it was shut.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Weak and feeble woman!

How did you find that? Did you have to register or something? Anyway, I don't understand property and where to start


Where did you go to after this page?

http://www.movingspace.com/lettings/

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Weak and feeble woman!

"Originally Posted by movingspacedotcom
Brixton Hill, Brixton, London For Sale
£1,000,000
Freehold property located on Brixton Hill offered for sale with the benefit of A3 classification order previous uses have included a cinema. The site curtilage contains an area of 2439 square feet. The site has significant development potential subject to planning; please forward all enquiries to The London Borough of Lambeth Planning Department. There is scope to expand the site to encompass the adjacent property (99 Brixton Hill) the freehold of which is available through Movingspace.com.
2352 Sq m / 25315 Sq ft Type : Land"

I said £1m and you didn't believe me

 

[lang rabbie]

I said £1m and you didn't believe me

No, I said it was a ridiculous amount. There are plenty of property owners who have an inflated idea of what their site is worth, but (in a capitalist economy) the value of the site is what someone else is willing to pay.

If they could get a licence to turn it into a "Bah", the value might be twice what is would be for the current restaurant use.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

No, I said it was a ridiculous amount. There are plenty of property owners who have an inflated idea of what their site is worth, but (in a capitalist economy) the value of the site is what someone else is willing to pay.

If they could get a licence to turn it into a "Bah", the value might be twice what is would be for the current restaurant use.

Ah, I'll you off then. Considering he paid less than £400K for the TWO properties, he's after some hefty profit. Greedy bastard

Another bah?

Shoo, get out of here. Get down to SW9 you wannabe SW2er

 

[Donna Ferentes]

but (in a capitalist economy) the value of the site is what someone else is willing to pay.

"Price, not value", murmurs a voice from the Retired Marxists' Club bar next door...

 

[lang rabbie]

"Price, not value", murmurs a voice from the Retired Marxists' Club bar next door...

[LR the lapsed economist goes into nostalgia for Labour Theory of Value]

The things which have the greatest value in use have frequently little or no value in exchange; and, on the contrary, those which have the greatest value in exchange have frequently little or no value in use.

The Wealth of Nations Book 1, Chapter 4 Of the Origin and Use of Money

Never cite Marx on economics unless you have read both Smith and Ricardo as well

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

[LR the lapsed economist goes into nostalgia for Labour Theory of Value]
The Wealth of Nations Book 1, Chapter 4 Of the Origin and Use of Money

Never cite Marx on economics unless you have read both Smith and Ricardo as well

This thread's gone all intellectual

Time to leave

 

[gaijingirl]

What are the bets that Justin is working on an equally clever reply - I can hear the pages of the library books turning as I type ... I've been checking back periodically to see what it's gonna be..

...not that I'll actually understand it of course...

 

[Bob]

I hope that whatever happens the Eritrean survives in some way or other - I had a really nice evening there the other day...

 

[gaijingirl]

I hope that whatever happens the Eritrean survives in some way or other - I had a really nice evening there the other day...

Here here.. the people who run it are really really lovely and the food is great. Plus they have great music.

 

[Giles]

i'll note down the number on the billboard next time i go past - unless minnie the minx beats me to it of course.

would you be interested in buying it? what would you do with it?

Not having found out that they DO want a million squid for it!

I am intrigued though, as to how big it is, it must be pretty big to command that price. Because there's no residential above it, like with a lot of these type of shops, or is there?

A place like that WOULD make a lovely multi-purpose venue, licenses permitting. Bar, club, live bands, theatre, comedy, etc etc. Assuming the auditorium is still there, going against what that other web site said.

A million pounds is a lot for a place on that road. There must be what's known as "development potential" in terms of building flats above it or something.

Giles..

 

[Donna Ferentes]

I trust Mr Rabbie has also read Aristotle, since the distinction between use-values and exchange-values was first drawn by that very philosopher. In the fourth book of the Nicomachean Ethics, I believe. Never quote Smith unless you have first read Aristotle...

 

[gaijingirl]

I trust Mr Rabbie has also read Aristotle, since the distinction between use-values and exchange-values was first drawn by that very philosopher. In the fourth book of the Nicomachean Ethics, I believe. Never quote Smith unless you have first read Aristotle...

I knew it was coming

 

[lang rabbie]

I trust Mr Rabbie has also read Aristotle, since the distinction between use-values and exchange-values was first drawn by that very philosopher. In the fourth book of the Nicomachean Ethics, I believe. Never quote Smith unless you have first read Aristotle...

IIRC he draws that distinction in the Politics (Book I Chapter iii). The section of the Nicomachean Ethics dealing with price that you are recalling is probably from Book V, Chapter v

But let's not throw this thread further off tangent with a debate on the evolution of the fallacy of commodity fetishism.

 

[gaijingirl]

No no.. it's fascinating... here was I thinking that this was just a boring old thread about whether I could enjoy a new Thai or a Japanese restaurant and I have been pleasantly surprised with a debate on the evolution of the fallacy of commodity fetishism.

Whatever that may be...

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

What are the bets that Justin is working on an equally clever reply - I can hear the pages of the library books turning as I type ... I've been checking back periodically to see what it's gonna be..

...not that I'll actually understand it of course...

I trust Mr Rabbie has also read Aristotle, since the distinction between use-values and exchange-values was first drawn by that very philosopher. In the fourth book of the Nicomachean Ethics, I believe. Never quote Smith unless you have first read Aristotle...

I see what you mean.

Translation please

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

But let's not throw this thread further off tangent with a debate on the evolution of the fallacy of commodity fetishism.

er OK then

 

[Donna Ferentes]

Some things have great use-value, i.e. you really need them, yet are worthless on the market. Others have great exchange-value, i.e. you can sell them for shedloads of cash, but are of no practical use. Aristotle uses the familiar examples of air and gold to illustrate each.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Some things have great use-value, i.e. you really need them, yet are worthless on the market. Others have great exchange-value, i.e. you can sell them for shedloads of cash, but are of no practical use. Aristotle uses the familiar examples of air and gold to illustrate each.

Ah right. (Don't you just hate these intellectuals )

But wouldn't gold be handy if they decided to charge you for the air you breathe?

 

[gaijingirl]

Wot about them oxygen bars??

Customers at Oxygen can now buy this most natural of highs in the form of two litre (25-30 puffs) or eight litre (70-80 puffs) canisters each containing 99.5% pure oxygen for £10 and £14 respectively.

That Aristotle doesn't know what he's talking about...

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle..etc... ad nauseum...