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€15/hour to escort a group of 16 year old girls?

Just to comment on the idea that 16 yr old girls are perfectly capable of making their own decisions re: sex. I don't agree all are capable especially re: predatory older men. Some men can be very clever at saying and doing the right things to impress (to get them into bed natch) impressionable I-think-I-know-it-all-and-am-in-control-sexually 16 yr olds.
Some are capable of making decisions about a lot of things sure and some aren't. Sexually though....with an older guy trying to get them into bed? I'm not so sure... :hmm:
 
I work wıth 18-22 year-old women, several of whom have made advances over the years. I've never been ınterested because they so obvıously want what I am not who I am ıyswım. Yes really.
 
phildwyer said:
I work wıth 18-22 year-old women, several of whom have made advances over the years. I've never been ınterested because they so obvıously want what I am not who I am ıyswım. Yes really.
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What are you that they want? Are you a fireman or a space cowboy? :D
 
Strumpet said:
Just to comment on the idea that 16 yr old girls are perfectly capable of making their own decisions re: sex. I don't agree all are capable especially re: predatory older men. Some men can be very clever at saying and doing the right things to impress (to get them into bed natch) impressionable I-think-I-know-it-all-and-am-in-control-sexually 16 yr olds.
Some are capable of making decisions about a lot of things sure and some aren't. Sexually though....with an older guy trying to get them into bed? I'm not so sure... :hmm:
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not all of them obviously but i think people underestimate how copped on teenagers are. Its patronising for a 16-year old girl to be considered a child, when plenty of them would be having sex/ drinking/ studying hard and falling out of nightclubs.

I am guessing more of them fall on that side than on still being children....
 
Cheesypoof said:
not all of them obviously but i think people underestimate how copped on teenagers are. Its patronising for a 16-year old girl to be considered a child, when plenty of them would be having sex/ drinking/ studying hard and falling out of nightclubs.

I am guessing more of them fall on that side than on still being children....
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you'd guess wrongly.

i, too was a sexually precocious teenager - but while i think it's relatively harmless for teenagers to be having (safe) sex with their peers, i think it
's perfectly possible, and indeed likely, that a man in his thirrties or older sleeping with a girl of 16 is manipulating them on some level.
 
Cheesypoof said:
not all of them obviously but i think people underestimate how copped on teenagers are. Its patronising for a 16-year old girl to be considered a child, when plenty of them would be having sex/ drinking/ studying hard and falling out of nightclubs.

I am guessing more of them fall on that side than on still being children....
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Well, I don't think I underestimate them at all, and I like them and respect them very much. I know they do that and not ALL that long ago I was the same. But I also see them being scared about things, being easily taken in, being very emotional. I don't think that recognising their natural naivety is patronising at all. I was, I admit, being knee-jerkish saying they were children but they are not adults. They really are not. And falling out of nightclubs: can't kids do that? I know I was. Not sure about using that as a measure of mental maturity, to be honest.

I agree totally with Strumpet.
 
spanglechick said:
you'd guess wrongly.

i, too was a sexually precocious teenager - but while i think it's relatively harmless for teenagers to be having (safe) sex with their peers, i think it
's perfectly possible, and indeed likely, that a man in his thirrties or older sleeping with a girl of 16 is manipulating them on some level.
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Absolutely.
 
Cheesypoof said:
not all of them obviously but i think people underestimate how copped on teenagers are. Its patronising for a 16-year old girl to be considered a child, when plenty of them would be having sex/ drinking/ studying hard and falling out of nightclubs.

I am guessing more of them fall on that side than on still being children....
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I wasn't like that. I definitely still was a child at 16.
 
spanglechick said:
you'd guess wrongly.

i, too was a sexually precocious teenager - but while i think it's relatively harmless for teenagers to be having (safe) sex with their peers, i think it
's perfectly possible, and indeed likely, that a man in his thirrties or older sleeping with a girl of 16 is manipulating them on some level.
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i wasnt sexually precocious, i was a virgin, but i knew what i was doing at that age, and wasnt easily manipulated. My schoolmates werent either.

i'm saying that people are wrong to assume 16 year old girls are children, in my opinion - theyre not!
 
Cheesypoof said:
i wasnt sexually precocious, i was a virgin, but i knew what i was doing at that age, and wasnt easily manipulated. My schoolmates werent either.

i'm saying that people are wrong to assume 16 year old girls are children, in my opinion - theyre not!
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Just out of interest, where do you get your opinion from? I just wonder.
 
Cheesypoof said:
Myself, but probably also parental influences. My folks treated me like an adult and put faith in me being able to think for myself very young.
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So you base your opinion merely on yourself as a teenager? Fair enough. And it sounds like you have a lot to thank your parents from but what about people who are less mature? To be honest, you sound like the exception and not the rule.

I don't think that if you were around 16 year olds more, you would hold the same opinion for long. They act like kids. A lot of them want affirmation and affection all the time. If you knew about the decisions some of the kids make, I think you might reconsider the idea that the majority of them are good at them.
 
milly molly said:
I don't think that recognising their natural naivety is patronising at all.
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Nor me.
milly molly said:
And falling out of nightclubs: can't kids do that? I know I was. Not sure about using that as a measure of mental maturity, to be honest.
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Saying some (a lot imo) young women of 16 are easily manipulated sexually....doesn't mean they aren't capable of making most decisions about the rest of their lives, u know. It's a diff. ball game when it comes to sex, imo.
 
milly molly said:
So you base your opinion merely on yourself as a teenager? Fair enough. And it sounds like you have a lot to thank your parents from but what about people who are less mature? To be honest, you sound like the exception and not the rule.

I don't think that if you were around 16 year olds more, you would hold the same opinion for long. They act like kids. A lot of them want affirmation and affection all the time. If you knew about the decisions some of the kids make, I think you might reconsider the idea that the majority of them are good at them.
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maybe thats true. I wasnt speaking for all sixteen year olds but looking back, it seems to me lots of my schoolmates seemed more mature than immature. I just dont think they are 'children' by any stretch and they sure hate being patronised as such.
 
Strumpet said:
Nor me.

Indeed.



Saying some (a lot imo) young women of 16 are easily manipulated sexually....doesn't mean they aren't capable of making most decisions about the rest of their lives, u know. Sexually it's a diff. ball game, imo.
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Absolutely. And I also think that things they do then can affect them, later on. Not to be too candid, but I did some dumb stuff and I think it affects the way I see people now. I would rather see things differently, frankly.
 
Strumpet said:
Nor me.

Indeed.



Saying some (a lot imo) young women of 16 are easily manipulated sexually....doesn't mean they aren't capable of making most decisions about the rest of their lives, u know. Sexually it's a diff. ball game, imo.
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especially if there is a power imbalance due to one partner being old enough to be their parent at a time when their parents have so much control over what they do.

if any friend of mine over the age of about 25 - male or female - was shagging a sixteen year old i'd have to say something to them. it may not be illegal, but that doesn't make it ok.
 
Cheesypoof said:
maybe thats true. I wasnt speaking for all sixteen year olds but looking back, it seems to me lots of my schoolmates seemed more mature than immature. I just dont think they are 'children' by any stretch and they sure hate being patronised as such.
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I would very much like it if you stopped accusing me of patronising them.
 
Cheesypoof said:
i think a 16-year old girl might feel patronised by that.
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Yes, I think you have made your feelings quite clear on that. I'm not absolutely sure you're right but since you are basing your whole argument on the fact that you were once a 16 year old, you probably are, eh?

And by the way, if they are not children, why did you not say 16-year-old woman?
 
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