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    Vassall Ward byelection

    sad news - former lambeth Mayor and Vassall ward councillor Liz Atkinson has died - http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/News/21010...izAtkinson.htm

    I guess there is going to be a byelection in Vassall then which is sort of Brixton (includes area bounded by Brixton Road, Camberwell New Road, Denmark Road and Coldharbour Lane) does anyone have any idea when it will be and who the candidates are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knatchbull View Post
    sad news - former lambeth Mayor and Vassall ward councillor Liz Atkinson has died - http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/News/21010...izAtkinson.htm

    I guess there is going to be a byelection in Vassall then which is sort of Brixton (includes area bounded by Brixton Road, Camberwell New Road, Denmark Road and Coldharbour Lane) does anyone have any idea when it will be and who the candidates are?
    Vassell goes all the way over to Clapham Rd. There's been no date fixed for this by-election, personally I'd guess they will leave it until the May GLA + Mayoral elections if they're allowed to leave it that long - then they can do them all at one time.

    The HOT HOT news as of last night is that the Green Party will be fielding a candidate (unlike last time when they stood down in favour of Respect who got a mighty 4% of the vote) - although to be fair the Greens have a list of target wards and Vassell ain't one of them.

    So George Graham's yer man. Green Party candidate for Vassell. There won't be much of a campaign though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by co-op View Post
    Vassell goes all the way over to Clapham Rd. There's been no date fixed for this by-election, personally I'd guess they will leave it until the May GLA + Mayoral elections if they're allowed to leave it that long - then they can do them all at one time.

    The HOT HOT news as of last night is that the Green Party will be fielding a candidate (unlike last time when they stood down in favour of Respect who got a mighty 4% of the vote) - although to be fair the Greens have a list of target wards and Vassell ain't one of them.

    So George Graham's yer man. Green Party candidate for Vassell. There won't be much of a campaign though....
    I guess 1 May would be best in terms of spending and campaigning by the political parties (and the council elections department) but it would be a shame if they did because the local issues would be overshadowed by the mayor/gla fight. I suppose there would be a higher turnout then though

    Looking at the figures from the last election I dont think theres much chance of anyone but labour winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knatchbull View Post
    Looking at the figures from the last election I dont think theres much chance of anyone but labour winning?

    Correct.


    Oh, and by the way....Vote Green!

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    I understand a date has been set - Thursday 20th March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charcol View Post
    I understand a date has been set - Thursday 20th March.
    That's right - date has been set for 20th March.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knatchbull View Post
    I guess 1 May would be best in terms of spending and campaigning by the political parties (and the council elections department) but it would be a shame if they did because the local issues would be overshadowed by the mayor/gla fight. I suppose there would be a higher turnout then though

    Looking at the figures from the last election I dont think theres much chance of anyone but labour winning?
    The ward's been close between Labour and Lib Dems for 15 years.

    Was partly Lib Dem (John Denny if you know him - assuming you live on Knatchbull road!) from 1994 -8 then has been Labour but with Lib Dems in a close second in the subsequent elections in 2002 and 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    The ward's been close between Labour and Lib Dems for 15 years.

    Was partly Lib Dem (John Denny if you know him - assuming you live on Knatchbull road!) from 1994 -8 then has been Labour but with Lib Dems in a close second in the subsequent elections in 2002 and 2006.
    byelection = libdems then......

    ... loads of 'its a 2 horse race' bar charts...

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    Well the votes in the 2006 election were:
    Labour 1305
    Lib Dem 1146
    Conservative 369
    Respect 257

    Greens didn't bother standing a candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    The ward's been close between Labour and Lib Dems for 15 years.

    Was partly Lib Dem (John Denny if you know him - assuming you live on Knatchbull road!) from 1994 -8 then has been Labour but with Lib Dems in a close second in the subsequent elections in 2002 and 2006.
    I do live on Knacthbull but have not been here that long!

    Thats interesting that it should be have been non Labour in previous years - I would have thought it is a strong Labour ward with all the people on Myatts Fields North and South, Cowley estate etc but I suppose in local elections due to the low turnout its more a case of who you get out to vote.

    Does anyone know when the candidates will be announced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Well the votes in the 2006 election were:
    Labour 1305
    Lib Dem 1146
    Conservative 369
    Respect 257

    Greens didn't bother standing a candidate.
    I /think/ there was an informal agreement between the green party and respect not to overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memespring View Post
    I /think/ there was an informal agreement between the green party and respect not to overlap.
    That's what I've heard - not really as a result of any big political decision to back Respect, but more because the Green Party doesn't have resources to put up an effective fight in all wards so has concentrated on a number of target wards where they get over 15% of the vote.

    But I know the Greens are putting a candidate up this time - George Graham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by memespring View Post
    I /think/ there was an informal agreement between the green party and respect not to overlap.
    A pity they won't admit that in public since I'd imagine it would put off a lot of green voters the idea that the greens are allied to the maniacs in Respect.

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    According to today's South London Press the Labour candidate is Andy Flanagan

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    Quote Originally Posted by knatchbull View Post
    According to today's South London Press the Labour candidate is Andy Flanagan
    Flannagan I hear lives in Waterloo.

    http://www.andyflan.com/

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    Lib Dem candidate is Steve Bradley. Here's his biog.

    He was also a Liberal Democrat candidates in Vassall in the 2006 local elections, where the party finished a very close second to Labour.

    Steve is a self-employed Building and Regeneration consultant who lives on the edge of Vassall ward. He has been involved in campaigning on a number of issues locally - such as Labour's ALMO proposal, Lambeth's Care Cuts, and restoring the 55 missing police to the Borough. He has also been an active campaigner on environmental issues for over 20 years, and is currently leading an initiative to phase-out the use of plastic bags in shops in Stockwell. Steve in the current Treasurer, and former Vice-Chair, of local community regeneration charity 'The Stockwell Partnership'.

    In his spare time, Steve plays a lot of sport. As a freelance journalist and amateur historian, he has had articles published in a variety of sports magazines and on the world's most popular football website (Soccernet.com). He is also currently writing a book on the history of football in his native Ireland.

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    yeah i live in vassall ward, lots of leaflets through the door recently, a couple from the lib dems, a very shiny glossy one from labour man flanagan, a paltry effort from the tories a while back i think, even something from boris which made me chuckle cos it was so ridiculous.

    looks like it could be quite close between lib dems and labour. is there a full list of candidates somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brixton Hatter View Post
    looks like it could be quite close between lib dems and labour. is there a full list of candidates somewhere?
    Published on Lambeth website yesterday

    London Borough of Lambeth
    Thursday 20 March 2008
    The following is a statement as to persons nominated for election as Councillor for the
    VASSALL WARD
    STATEMENT AS TO PERSONS NOMINATED

    The following persons have been nominated:
    Barr, Stuart David.......Conservative Party Candidate
    Bradley, Steve............Liberal Democrats
    Flannagan, Dr Andy.....The Labour Party Candidate
    Graham ,George..........The Green Party
    Polenceus, Janus.........English Democrats Party
    Syron, Leo Matthew.....Independent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Flannagan I hear lives in Waterloo.

    http://www.andyflan.com/
    Kennington Road more than Waterloo - edge of Vassall Ward, similar distance to the Lib Dem I think so no benefits for either in being 'the local candidate' if you apply it strictly to the local ward
    Last edited by knatchbull; 27-02-2008 at 11:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knatchbull View Post
    Kennington Road more than Waterloo - edge of Vassall Ward, similar distance to the Lib Dem I think so no benefits for either in being 'the local candidate' if you apply it strictly to the local ward
    He's at the other end of Kennington road - just by the church by Lambeth north tube (if you look at the nomination you can see his postcode). Though I'd imagine his leaflets will be quite careful not to point that out given that Labour made such a big thing in some of the recent Lambeth elections about their candidates being the most local.

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    4th of May

    We have had no end of leaflets stuffed through the letterbox from different parties.

    So far my impression is as follows.......

    Conservative Party
    Until I read this thread I had no idea if they were even fielding a candidate, let alone who he/she is.

    Labour
    About a week ago some old fellow knocked on the door on an early afternoon in the week. He was doddering, confused and frankly annoying. Had no answers for the few questions I asked.

    Liberal Democrats
    Steve Bradley knocked on the door last night early evening. Seemed to be a switched on bloke and was actually pleasant to chat to. Promised (politician making promises sounds familiar?) that they were mainly interested in fixing basic things. Whilst he agreed with much of what we said I take this with a pinch of salt from any politician. What made me think was the fact that he was out on my estate (a challenging place to live at times) on a Sunday night willing to talk to people openly.

    English Democrats
    Last night (we were home) they dropped a leaflet through our door which reads like a flowery version of Mein Kampf, and was more focused on St Georges Day than any local issues.

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    I've just stumbled across an old Labour guide to beating the Lib Dems in Lambeth which is quite amusing:

    By Luke Akehurst - former Labour activist in Lambeth: Find one flaw and smear them all -
    afterall they put up with it and would do the same to you. Go
    negative until swamped by complaints. Then do it again.

    Full version here:
    http://www.gavinwhenman.com/wp-conte...%20Lambeth.pdf

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    smokin'

    Lovely bloke that Akenside, obviously.

    Wish these politicos would go away. Only see them when there is an election coming up. Bad enough having them dump their litter through our letter boxes. Why do they also send out unshaved beery weirdos like the thing that came to our- door yesterday afternoon! If it can't shave or keep off the beer, why is it on the council?

    Not too bright asking us to vote for them immediately after stuffing us with increased council tax and rent!

    Lot of people unhappy about this Alamo thing also. At least with councillors you know who to complain to, and they know that if they don't perform they're out of a job. You can't even complain to the faceless nodders on the ALMO board, they won't even allow officers to give out their names!

    Any councillor want to tell me 3 things that this lot have done for our ward? No? . . . I thought not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overide View Post
    Not too bright asking us to vote for them immediately after stuffing us with increased council tax and rent!
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    Dont think they had much choice about the byelection - they have to have it within a certain time period, dont know why they couldnt have combined it with the mayorial ones in May but they must have their reasons.

    That Luke Akehurst is a former student Labour person. In the mid 1990s when I was at university they were more Blairite than Balir and blatant careerists - still hasnt done him any harm as he is now a director or something at Weber Shandwick http://www.webershandwick.com/, he is also a Hackney Councillor with a regular blog http://lukeakehurst.blogspot.com/ and a spoof version http://lukeakehurstsblog.blogspot.com/ which seems to be better than the original!

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    Quote Originally Posted by overide View Post

    Any councillor want to tell me 3 things that this lot have done for our ward? No? . . . I thought not.
    Have you tried challenging any of the people who come round? Or contact one of the other two councillors, I'm sure they would be happy to go on at length about the achievements! I have always been very impressed with the Vassall councillor Kingsley Abrams (Labour) - whenever Ive had dealings with him he has responded quickly and tried to get to the heart of the matter.

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