Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[fen_boy]

Just done the speedtest.net test on 3g with full signal bars and then reduced signal bars and it made no difference to connection speed, 2Mb up and down.

Also made a couple of calls with reduced signal bars and no change in call quality and no dropout. Obviously this isn't an extensive sample of calls.

I really have to grasp it in my fist like an ape to get it to do it - it's just not how I hold my phone. When I'm using any apps or whatever I hold it in my right hand and prod at it with my left fingers.

Pretty much a non issue for me. It wouldn't put me off buying one, but then I'm bound to say that.

[Gromit]

I doubt the covers were a response to the issue.

Bumpers rather than covers. However I tend to agree, even though they are a bit out of the norm I see them as a solution to protect what Apple is claiming the only vulnerable part of the phone now. The glass is supposed to be uber tough but the metal strip is the most likely part to impact the ground if the phone is dropped.

[editor]

But they do it anyway:

Yes. It seems that he's happy to "suffer a slower phone" in order to have the new features.

I don't think I'd bother myself (if I still had an iPhone). I know memespring's phone was markedly slower in some respects after the 'upgrade'.

I doubt the covers were a response to the issue.

You're probably right but it did strike me as a slightly unusual official accessory for the launch.

[editor]

There could be mileage in the suggestion that the bands are an acknowledgement by Apple that there is a problem:

Or, in Apple's official statement - which is only being passed out to news organisations which ask for a statement on the problem, rather than sent out (as happens with iPad or iPhone sales figures): "Gripping any phone will result in some attenuation of its antenna performance with certain places being worse than others depending on the placement of the antennas. This is a fact of life for every wireless phone. If you ever experience this on your Phone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases."

The problem emerged within hours of the first iPhone 4 devices being delivered to customers in the US, with dozens posting videos to YouTube showing mobile reception dropping off dramatically when they picked up the phone. Some users wondered why Apple had not spotted the problem during its testing of the iPhone 4 before its launch, and wondered whether the £25 "bumpers" that Apple sells to go around the casing - and protect the metal antennas - was an implicit acknowledgement of the problem. Apple had no comment on Friday on whether it had discovered the problem during testing, or only after the phone went on sale.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...roblems-solved

Perhaps they should give away those bumpers for free - but them I guess it won't look quite so stylish.

[maldwyn]

Perhaps they should give away those bumpers for free - but them I guess it won't look quite so stylish.

I got one for free today after making a complaint the thing has solved my ariel problems and it kind of looks OK.

[grit]

I got one for free today after making a complaint the thing has solved my ariel problems and it kind of looks OK.

I'd go fucking spare at them if they tried to charge for the cover to fix that problem.

[maldwyn]

I'd go fucking spare at them if they tried to charge for the cover to fix that problem.

There were lots of people buying them though. I think I was lucky getting the assistant I got, after hearing me whine for two minutes he put it through the till as a credit. Didn't ask to see my phone or a receipt.

[WWWeed]

I'd go fucking spare at them if they tried to charge for the cover to fix that problem.

Too right! It looks like this reception problem is quite bad!

Look at this video my mate made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhARK...=youtu.be&hd=1

[fen_boy]

Too right! It looks like this reception problem is quite bad!

Look at this video my mate made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhARK...=youtu.be&hd=1

Mine's nowhere near as bad as that. I can't get it to do it again now.

[fen_boy]

Yeah, just tried for 5 minutes and I can't get the signal to drop at all now.

[editor]

Too right! It looks like this reception problem is quite bad!

Look at this video my mate made:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhARK...=youtu.be&hd=1

That's pretty dramatically shit.

[Kid_Eternity]

You have a 3GS?

[Pie 1]

Indeed. But there again, the Guardian have a nice cosy little relationship going with Apple, as commented on in Private Eye this week.

Would like to see that piece, but can't find it.
The CiF lot are getting increasingly very pissed off with the paper's absolute silence/refusal on disclosing the exact nature of the love in with Apple.

[WWWeed]

Yeah, just tried for 5 minutes and I can't get the signal to drop at all now.

It seems to effect all iphone 4s

the antennae are not being blocked by a mass of flesh and bone (head/hand) - it's just a small electrically conductive object that is connecting the two antennae segments together. And when you have a sweaty hand holding the phone in that area I'm pretty sure it will do a fairly passable impression of an electrical conductor.

The head and hands do block the radio signals on all phones, this is true, however the iPhone 4 is the only one designed with the metal aerials on the outside. The bluster from Apple about hands blocking the signal is pure smoke screen - it's not the problem, the design is the problem.

However some lacquer on the exterior of the antennae would solve the problem - nail varnish would also do the job for those already with an iPhone 4 - in which case this problem should be addressed as a manufacturing flaw/defect.

Just look at this youtube video where this guy demonstratives this issue with a key:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvH-i7rKPJc

This guy reckons he has tried it on half a dosen handsets and they all have this problem........

[ovaltina]

They're going to have to find a slogan to replace 'it just works'.

[Callum91]

Why would anyone want to put nail varnish on their expensive , shiny new phone?

[Shippou-Chan]

my boss keeps sending me anti andriod stories*


but then again he does own apple shares


* ok not quite but there is an agenda there

[fen_boy]

It seems to effect all iphone 4s

the antennae are not being blocked by a mass of flesh and bone (head/hand) - it's just a small electrically conductive object that is connecting the two antennae segments together. And when you have a sweaty hand holding the phone in that area I'm pretty sure it will do a fairly passable impression of an electrical conductor.

The head and hands do block the radio signals on all phones, this is true, however the iPhone 4 is the only one designed with the metal aerials on the outside. The bluster from Apple about hands blocking the signal is pure smoke screen - it's not the problem, the design is the problem.

However some lacquer on the exterior of the antennae would solve the problem - nail varnish would also do the job for those already with an iPhone 4 - in which case this problem should be addressed as a manufacturing flaw/defect.

Just look at this youtube video where this guy demonstratives this issue with a key:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvH-i7rKPJc

This guy reckons he has tried it on half a dosen handsets and they all have this problem........

Mine does do it, see earlier in the thread, just I couldn't get it to do it last night. And even when it does do it, it's making no difference to my 3g connection speed or call quality.

[maldwyn]

Mine is still doing it despite the bumper, though only on extended calls - I think there's something going on with o2's signal too (I have a mate on orange and he has no problems).

Despite the hassle, it's a really impressive bit of kit and there's no way I want to return it

[twistedAM]

Yeah, I'm not gonna bother.

i upgraded and i really like the folders things.

Two of my apps just won't work though but they were shit apps anyway so i replaced the crappy ITV World Cup one with SSN and I never listened to XFM much anyway.

[Kid_Eternity]

So far only two apps aren't working but updates will sort that I reckon. iOS4 runs very nicely on my 3GS...

[Pie 1]

Jobs says "We may have to recall the new iPhone"

Daily Fail

[ChrisFilter]

i upgraded and i really like the folders things.

I've had the folders thing, but better, for ages 'cos I jailbroke my phone.

The only feature that jailbreaking hasn't offered (but better) for time is unified inbox. But then I want to keep work and personal separate anyway.

[maldwyn]

Jobs says "We may have to recall the new iPhone"

Daily Fail

That was posted on a fake Steve Jobs Twitter account.

Apple are still refusing to address the issue.

[Pie 1]

That was posted on a fake Steve Jobs Twitter account.

Excellent!
Good to see the Fail keeping it's journalistic standards so high :-)