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    Quote Originally Posted by GarfieldLeChat
    shouldn't be using a disability as a term of abuse... love...

    Yes...that was a form of abuse like my experiences are an experession of sexism and bigotry-yes garf-most interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Yes...that was a form of abuse like my experiences are an experession of sexism and bigotry-yes garf-most interesting
    your words love...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarfieldLeChat
    i would imagine it would go something like this...

    the states has a predericition with following orders, laws and the like and has installed this idea into their general population largely becuase of fear and also intimiadation, this couplled with and entire culture formed around beer advertising and the bar lifestyle which is become more and more infantile in it's adoption couplled with the anthropological nature of the country being still relatively new in terms of culture and the ecomomies of scale meaning there is a significant equiverlent of working class which will poplate all areas of the country inclding new york leads to along with a differeing political and social logical out look a different attitude and indeed prefference for attending bars and clubs. than the UK and or ireland...

    are you seriously making any form of suggestion there is not a cultural difference between the three counties... if so state the homgenity ...
    No garf Im not-what I am suggesting that I fail to see the cultural differences that can explain away the increase in business for the service industry in NY.

    And that still remains the case even after your long winded explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarfieldLeChat
    your words love...
    Give it a rest eh garf-and i'm not your love you sexist pig drone drone drone Ad infinitum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    No garf Im not-what I am suggesting that I fail to see the cultural differences that can explain away the increase in business for the service industry in NY.

    And that still remains the case even after your long winded explanation.
    kindly quote the right bloody post unless you are going to dart back and forth and please respond to the questions posed rather than the asummed ones not... as for beign long winded i'm sorry that a detailed explaination of the cutural differences you cannot see are causing you eye strain...

    really what is your point now???

    you won't accept others POV or even debate with them on those terms which you previously demand they debate on you are as inconsistant as quicksand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Give it a rest eh garf-and i'm not your love you sexist pig drone drone drone Ad infinitum
    again with the offtpic abuse... again if your are bored then cease beign boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Give it a rest eh garf-and i'm not your love you sexist pig drone drone drone Ad infinitum
    What's sexist about calling somebody love?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebabyjesus
    What's sexist about calling somebody love?

    Its a joke-I thought seeing as garf liked to throw around facile labels I'd parody his posting style

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Its a joke-I thought seeing as garf liked to throw around facile labels I'd parody his posting style
    OK, I see it now.

    *goes back to reading up on this human construct called 'humour'*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Its a joke-I thought seeing as garf liked to throw around facile labels I'd parody his posting style
    erm how is it faclie to point out your obvious derogtitory comment and ask why you said it... and what was your meanign behind such athing you drew the comparitive your made the comment you should if you have half a mind to be able to justify your words when questioned. and tbf i don't think that your current comment can in anyway be justified, and is indefensible.

    just as btw using sexist terminology is also indefensible even if it's beign used against men rather than women...

    face it you are letting your nasty side show more often and you are being called on it...

    it's not accetable to say to other posters ha you act like a spakka which is the essence of what you said, or well you deservie it your a man... which is the essence of what you were defending... but hey, lap it up ... you go on defending that shit if you want ... but don't think it doesn't reduce the wieght of your other arguements or mark you down as being an irrlievent bigot...

    as for people being long winded, sorry love, but you can't control other people much as you attempt to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarfieldLeChat
    erm how is it faclie to point out your obvious derogtitory comment and ask why you said it... and what was your meanign behind such athing you drew the comparitive your made the comment you should if you have half a mind to be able to justify your words when questioned. and tbf i don't think that your current comment can in anyway be justified, and is indefensible.

    just as btw using sexist terminology is also indefensible even if it's beign used against men rather than women...

    face it you are letting your nasty side show more often and you are being called on it...

    it's not accetable to say to other posters ha you act like a spakka which is the essence of what you said, or well you deservie it your a man... which is the essence of what you were defending... but hey, lap it up ... you go on defending that shit if you want ... but don't think it doesn't reduce the wieght of your other arguements or mark you down as being an irrlievent bigot...

    as for people being long winded, sorry love, but you can't control other people much as you attempt to...

    Do you know what garf? I never used to understand why some urbanites seemed to dislike you. That was until something I posted in a F4J thread didnt sit well with you and you launched into a tirade of abuse including laughingly labels like bigot and sexist.

    Now in this thread you started off an exchange with myself with a torrent of abuse which suggest you not only have a large chip on your shoulder but a stinking attitude. If my 'mask' is slipping then likewise the real you is becoming apparant to me. You're a nasty piece of work whose myopic style of debate leaves a lot to be desired.

    I dont spend a great deal of time on Urban-but the time I do spend I'd rather not listen to your abusive & sneering outbursts and endless rants of what you assume me (someone you have never met) to be.

    So congratulations garf on being the first and no doubt only person to be on my ignore list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandma Death
    Do you know what garf? I never used to understand why some urbanites seemed to dislike you. That was until something I posted in a F4J thread didnt sit well with you and you launched into a tirade of abuse including laughingly labels like bigot and sexist.

    Now in this thread you started off an exchange with myself with a torrent of abuse which suggest you not only have a large chip on your shoulder but a stinking attitude. If my 'mask' is slipping then likewise the real you is becoming apparant to me. You're a nasty piece of work whose myopic style of debate leaves a lot to be desired.

    I dont spend a great deal of time on Urban-but the time I do spend I'd rather not listen to your abusive & sneering outbursts and endless rants of what you assume me (someone you have never met) to be.

    So congratulations garf on being the first and no doubt only person to be on my ignore list.
    yawn i commented on your cvomments you have taken this to be a personal attack after you patently wriggled and refused to quantify why cultural difference would affect things or for that matter justify why you'd find it accetpable to use a disablity as a form of insult...

    if you cannot stump up reasons for either of these and why on another thread which i haven't refference except when you have directly reffered to it, why it would be acceptable to make and invest in blatently sexist comments which others point out, not just me, to you then go ahead stick me on ignore...

    speaks volumes that cannot justify the comments you make but would rather throw you toys out... love...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogofish
    Would that be leading it a full year after Scotland then?

    fair enough - I pull my foot out of my mouth....I didn't know that!

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    Anyone Welsh left in this thread?

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    I think Grandma Death is Welsh, so I'm on her side. Also, because GLC is being a wanker.
    Smoking ban is going OK so far here from what I've seen. People huddled outside on the pavement outside the Glamorgan Staff Club. It was a tad odd being in that place without the smoke - but the worst thing about it was that the smell of old beer in the carpet was a lot more noticable.

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    Waent to the pub to meet a lady friend on monday, I was abit late, when I got a pint and sat down, she got up, put her coat on and went outside for a fag. anti-social druggie.

    I am a cannabis user, do I get up and leave the pub mid-pint for a toke? No. I wait until I'm stumbling between boozers. Still, should I want to have a sly toke I now have a load of fag smokers to hide amoung I guess....

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    Major downside in the Murenger last night was other smells. I was stood by the bar doing the quiz (only 2nd - gutted), when someone dropped their guts during the picture round. fucking awful... I predict joss sticks becoming fashionable.

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    If people can't control their sphincters in public then it's their personal duty not to expose others to their noxious gasses. I begin the lobbying the Welsh Assembly tomorrow for a blanket ban on farting in public places. Who's with me. Think of the bar tenders!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by llantwit
    but the worst thing about it was that the smell of old beer in the carpet was a lot more noticable.
    Just wait till the pubs start buying industrial quantities of pot-pourri, cheap perfume-squirters & best of all - start burning incense or getting bloody smoke machines to cover it up!

    A Scottish pub the other week - with smoke machine going constantly.



    The place also tends to have a whole pagan altar's worth of incence smouldering away too, band or no band!
    Last edited by pogofish; 05-04-2007 at 14:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dic Penderyn
    I am a cannabis user, do I get up and leave the pub mid-pint for a toke? No. I wait until I'm stumbling between boozers. Still, should I want to have a sly toke I now have a load of fag smokers to hide amoung I guess....
    Again, not really happening.

    Even though they don't hand-out many tickets, the increased level of inspection has made pubs/clubs much more sensitive about folk having a toke outside/in the shelter, even in places that used to be reasonable about turning a blind eye - the smoking inspectors here also got the power to report to the licencing board & the local "anti-drugs partnership", which thanks to the new licencing laws (virtually the same as yours) forcing near compulsory membership, makes it very easy for a pub/club to get in deep shit.

    In the meantime, coke seems to have become the pub-drug of choice after alcohol & I've never seen so many or such a wide variety of folk down in the bogs doing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by editor
    1. If you're a smoker, you'll want to go to a smoking pub because you're addicted to nicotine.
    If your friends go to a non-smoking pub with a comfy outdoor smoking area will you be sat outside with them breathing in their 'stinking' fumes or will you be sat inside on your own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by editor
    Let's look closer to home: overall business was up in Scotland after the ban for pubs that offered food:
    It said yesterday that drinks sales fell 1% in Scotland since the smoking ban, while food sales were up 11%. Overall sales increased by 2.6% in Scotland since the introduction of the smoking ban in March, compared with 3.8% for Britain overall.
    So if sales in Scotland have increased by 2.6% since the ban compared with 3.8% in the rest of the UK then Scotland has experienced a relative 1.2% drop in sales since the smoking ban came into effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pogofish
    Just wait till the pubs start buying industrial quantities of pot-pourri, cheap perfume-squirters & best of all - start burning incense or getting bloody smoke machines to cover it up!

    A Scottish pub the other week - with smoke machine going constantly.



    The place also tends to have a whole pagan altar's worth of incence smouldering away too!
    Is that in Aberdeen,Pogofish? Whereabouts?
    (That's where I'm from , you see )

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    The Moorings.

    http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums...rings-bar.html

    http://www.myspace.com/themooringsbar

    Still going strong after all these years & otherwise, still a top pub. Used to be my local but I'm not in it so often these days.
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