It's closed down and all boarded up awaiting it's conversion into "appartments". luxury ones.
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It's closed down and all boarded up awaiting it's conversion into "appartments". luxury ones.
RIP
have they actually applied for planning permission?
Bollocks. I heard that they were planning on tearing down the building, bunging in 'urban lifestyle metro-upmarket loft luxury apartments' (or whatever name they currently call these fucking conversions) and then rebuilding it with the bar still downstairs.Originally Posted by Mr Retro
Are there any notices there saying that the bar is going forever?
If that is the case, that's going to cast a long shadow over another rumour I heard about a Very Well Known Brixton Landmark Pub....
are there any notices saying that the bar is going to reopen, albeit in a different style?
Not repeatable on the internet?
Not right now, I'm afraid.
A pub that had a large support from here?
Long time no post.
This was one of those places that was once a landmark.
But was taken over and if I remember from what I have read here was now not fit for anything but a middle class student with dodgy dreads.
Obviously not quite enough have settled locally.
I went in there a few times for the footie & enjoyed the P & Q. but this obviously does not keep a pub in business.
Still I suppose anyone who doesn't revamp somewhere in Brixton & make it edgy or a dive bar has what they deserve.
If you took over a bar would you delibrately make it a shite hole?
If you don't use it...
Sorry I am a bit the worse for anything.
I live round the corner and only dropped in two/three times since it got taken over. Very limited bar - if you wanted a beer, but didn't fancy a Guinness, it was a case of lager or lager - no ale at all.
I didn’t see any notices, I’ll have a closer look tonight.
I used to go in there the odd time since it changed hands a few years back. There wasn’t much to reccomend it to be honest. The best I can say about it, is it was better than The Backstage.
Still, sad to see yet another old boozer going down.
They used to do a nice Sunday roast.
Is the Queen the one further up Ferndale Road, with the small garden?
Thats the one
On the same topic, The Loughborough has been shut the last few times I have walked past.
Which one would that be then?
I've already said: it's not repeatable on the internet!
It may be total bollocks of course, so I'm already wishing I hadn't said anything now.. but I have heard it from two different sources...
As soon as I hear anything definite, I'll post it up here, but it could just be one of those groundless rumours.
It was open about two weeks ago in the daytime, although the rest of this landmark venue was being 'lifestyled' at a rate of knots.
too bad... i quite liked the queen for a quiet drink every now and then. it was almost always ewmpty in its new re-incarnation.
They did no promotion of the bar at all. It was even quiet when there was a gig in the Academy.
The sad thing was that the real appeal of the Queen was its 'ad hoc' approach to licensing and once the police clamped down on that, there wasn't a lot left to recommend the place.
I've had some fabulous nights there in the past, but a visit a while ago revealed a pretty soulless place with no discernible interest from the owners in promoting or improving the place.
Oddly enough, I quite liked its 'soullesness'; it was one of the few places in the Town Centre where you could always get a seat and have a conversation. The (largely polish) staff were always helpful and welcoming. I think it added something to the mix of boozers in central Brixton. It was never a replacement for the old Queen though, but as you say that was never on the cards.
There was no decent beer there though pooka, as suzy said above ...
Writes a licensed place off as an attraction, in my book ...
The new Queen may have been shit, but it was still a pub. Once it's lost, it'll be gone forever, with no chance of anyone ever taking it over and improving it.
After reading the Ed's "lost pubs..." thread recently, it got me wondering about where all the drinkers have gone? All these now-shut pubs once supported a thriving drinking community, but where have all these drinkers gone? They're not all in the Beehive or the Albert or wherever... or there'd be hundreds of people hanging out the doors!
During a little cycle ride around Old Kent Road / Bermondsey yesterday, I developed a theory. There's fucking loads of old-fashioned proper boozers round there.....but we're losing them all around Brixton. Maybe it's to do with the class demographic? Brixton has got very middle class - many of the people living here now aren't the sorts to hang out in boozers all day....whereas the Old Kent Road / Bermondsey area (as far as I know) appears to retain it's working class identity and the people who have always lived there. I'm not saying the middle class don't drink/workers do - it's not that black and white - but the sort of people moving to Brixton (and living in expensive flats of the sort likely to be built at the Queen) appear more likely to spend their alco money in the supermarkets and the new style bars, than in a good old boozer. If there's not a market to support all the pubs, then it's inevitable that some are going to close....... RIP.
There was a thread on the queen on here some time ago - around the time it shut and reopened - I seem to remember that the queen was owned by the same people who own the East Dulwich Tavern at the top of Lordship Lane - who I think are the same people building flats at the bottom of Tulse Hill. They sounded as much like a property company as a pub chain. Someone suggested on that thread that the owners would simply let the pub run itself into the ground so they could close it and build on it.....I'm not sure about what the laws are around what a premises is licensed to be used for...but that theory sounds fairly believable to me....
Last edited by Brixton Hatter; 23-01-2006 at 14:35.
Wander through the great East Street market in Walworth on a Sunday and you sense it has retained a real working class atmosphere. It feels different in that respect to Brixton market.
Both have changed dramatically with regard to ethnic make up, but East Street/Walworth seems to have remained more working class.
That's what they are. They also own the Dogstar and more recently Brixton Cycles.
As for people going to pubs, there's been a downward trend for community boozers for a long time.
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