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e2a: did sound a bit ignorant... edited slightly... the original may still be quoted below...
Not me...
...but I need to find out stuff about living in Brazil.
Is it dangerous -- from what I hear from a family member, it was where he lived.
Do you have to have armed guards? Live in a guarded house?
If one were to go and live there, would you be an easy target?
(Need to know for another family member who seems to be blinkered into moving over there despite the possible dangers.)
ivebeenhigh
07-05-2007, 11:25
Not me...
...but I need to find out stuff about living in Brazil.
I imagine it's quite dangerous -- from what I hear from a family member.
Do you have to have armed guards? Live in a compound?
If one were to go and live there, would you be ripped off/robbed from the out-set?
(Need to know for another family member who seems to be blinkered into moving over there despite the obvious(?) dangers.)
eh armed guards? a compound? maybe if you are salamn rushdie
my mate lives out there he works in a bar. he hasnt been kidnapped once.
Where in Brazil?
Are you taking the piss, J77? Or are you trolling? :confused:
Where did you get your view of the world from?
Where in Brazil?
Are you taking the piss, J77? Or are you trolling? :confused:
Where did you get your view of the world from?Nah -- the reason I'm asking is because the only proper view I have is from someone who lived out there for two years and is married to a Brazilian; outskirts of Sao Paulo. Everywhere he went, they had to go around in groups and their house/compund had armed guards. They're coming to live in the UK now.
If you have any advice about going out there to live and/or setting up a business, I'd like to hear.
It's not taking the piss, or trolling -- I think when you move to another country, particularly where a large part of the population are quite poor, you have to ask serious questions and get answers from people who know.
Of course, I'm not saying that all Brazilians are out to rob you -- just what the chance of that would be, ie. the amount of crime, which is usually sensationally reported as high in the press.
And, I also know it's different from going somewhere on holiday to actaully living there -- my view of the world comes from quite a large travel experience.
Brasil fucking rocks:D
Where in Sao Paulo are you talking? What with the size of it there is always going to be dodgy areas..one time I stayed at Morumbi and Brasileros thought I was rich, the next time I stayed in Diadema and Brasileros thought I was loco due to its dangerous reputation..
..no armed compounds in either of the places I was at, one did have a poodle now I think about it;)
I stayed with a mate in Rio for a couple of weeks, his flat is 5 mins from Copacabana, I never had any hassle even though I look a typical gringo..
..maybe a cliche but if something bad is going to happen it will happen..just being sensible minimises the risk innit..
..workwise - I am English, I looked into getting a visa to work there but was told "ain't gonna happen" unless you have a "specialism" to offer the country
"living in Brazil" is a bit simplistic, which areas is your family member considering?
..workwise - I am English, I looked into getting a visa to work there but was told "ain't gonna happen" unless you have a "specialism" to offer the country
"living in Brazil" is a bit simplistic, which areas is your family member considering?Up on the Rio Grande, around Natal.
They plan to emigrate/retire there -- sell up in England -- there's talk about starting a jetski hire on a beach. I'm sceptical about this last bit because I reckon you'd get hassle from the locals -- I think you'd get this anywhere in the world -- but they seem to still be going for it.
pseudonarcissus
24-05-2007, 16:59
I got back from a couple of weeks working in Rio last Tuesday. I don't know anyone who has armed guards, just the regular concierge in the apartment buildings. If you are very rich, or perceived to be rich there is a risk of kidnapping, but that's the case all over latin america.
Right, I need to go sort out my director's visa..
To stand a chance of starting up and then happily running a tourist business in Brazil they need:
Fluency in Portuguese
Have a good lawyer
Sufficient funds
An outstanding location
Flexible to deal with cultural differences
Patience to deal with at times a mind bogglingly incompetent bureaucracy and state
Good judge of people
They should thoroughly research on the size and duration of what will is a seasonal market. As I am sure they already have. Jet skis are not cheap and require alot maintenance.
As you say living somewhere is very different from visiting, how will they feel in low season few tourists, no money in town, rainy season etc.
If they can tick all those boxes they should have great time.
The Natal/Pipa area is already full of Europeans successfully running businesses or just hanging out, who are not being kidnapped and not using armed guards
Thanks Fidel -- good words; especially the appreciation that living somewhere is not the same as taking a holiday or even an longer stay.
People seem to have picked up on what I said about the armed guards thing -- it could be because the person I was referring to, their (in-law, Brazil) family had a large factory practically employing the whole local area. In guess in this respect they were extremely rich and could have bee targeted for eg. kidnap, hence the security.
(Like I said, this was more Sao Paulo than Natal.)
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