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Maggot
11-03-2007, 23:57
When walking along Brixton Water Lane and heading up Brixton Hill, I always used to go along Josephine Avenue, cos I thought it was a short cut. It took me ages to realise that it was actually longer. When going up JA you are heading away from BWL, but then the road bends and you head towards it again before arriving on Brixton Hill only about 50 metres further up from it.

Anyone else done this, or am I just stupid?
T & P
12-03-2007, 00:32
Pssst! (http://www.instant-analysis.com/Principles/straightline.htm)













:p
bluestreak
12-03-2007, 00:53
i thought this was a transformers thread.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/decepticons.jpg
zenazena
12-03-2007, 15:46
Anyone else done this, or am I just stupid?

we are all stupid.
i have been taking the same 'shortcut' for much of the last 30 years!!!!! i now feel cheated.
i have even tested with my trusty method of holding a bit of string against my computer screen on streetmap and you're right....
http://www.dot-alt.com/jack_tranformer.jpg
tastebud
12-03-2007, 15:50
hmm, i used to do this all the time too. it never felt right but till just now i couldn't quite figure out why.
but then, my sense of direction is bloody fucking appalling!
my head's permanently in the clouds.
Minnie_the_Minx
12-03-2007, 19:07
:confused:

I've always walked this way as it seems shorter even though it is more dangerous
Minnie_the_Minx
12-03-2007, 19:12
we are all stupid.
i have been taking the same 'shortcut' for much of the last 30 years!!!!! i now feel cheated.
i have even tested with my trusty method of holding a bit of string against my computer screen on streetmap and you're right....
http://www.dot-alt.com/jack_tranformer.jpg


you have a strange name. What's the origins and are you so good you named yourself twice? :confused:
T & P
12-03-2007, 21:44
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/443/josephinehe3.jpg

Not exactly a straight line is it? :p
Slow Hands
12-03-2007, 21:51
People who live on Josephine Avenue were probably wondering why so many strange people walked down their road too.
SubZeroCat
12-03-2007, 21:54
I did it once - I knew BWL was quicker for my route but it was dark etc.

Never been that way again.
lang rabbie
12-03-2007, 22:12
It is the dryads of Rush Common that do it, luring the unwary along the path of the ley line that passes directly from Arodene Road to Brixton Hill...
as this chart sheweth (http://www.british-history.ac.uk/image.aspx?compid=49855&filename=figure0368-072-a.gif)
story
12-03-2007, 22:14
But it's nicer along Josephine Avenue than on Brixton Water lane or Brixton Hill. It feels shorter cos it's nicer :) :)
twisted
12-03-2007, 22:33
But it's nicer along Josephine Avenue than on Brixton Water lane or Brixton Hill. It feels shorter cos it's nicer :) :)

exactly but during the daytime only..it's a lot nicer since it stopped being a car park as well
Minnie_the_Minx
12-03-2007, 22:41
exactly but during the daytime only..it's a lot nicer since it stopped being a car park as well



blame all those church-goers ;)
twisted
12-03-2007, 22:43
yeah but they don't have church on a wednesday afternoon; loads of people must have used it to park their car and then leg it to the tube

and..jeez...i forgot you had a computer at home now:rolleyes:
Minnie_the_Minx
12-03-2007, 22:46
yeah but they don't have church on a wednesday afternoon; loads of people must have used it to park their car and then leg it to the tube

and..jeez...i forgot you had a computer at home now:rolleyes:


Ruach Ministries has Wednesday evening services :p

I've had a computer at home since last year. Keep up

I'm farting around on Ancestry.co.uk but none of my relatives seem to have been born :confused:
twisted
12-03-2007, 22:48
i'm talking wednesday daytime...like just after lunch, when i get up like and you've long since been at work
Minnie_the_Minx
12-03-2007, 22:51
i'm talking wednesday daytime...like just after lunch, when i get up like and you've long since been at work


Ah, maybe it's the Wednesday Afternoon Club for lazy arses like yourself :p
teuchter
13-03-2007, 17:08
When walking along Brixton Water Lane and heading up Brixton Hill, I always used to go along Josephine Avenue, cos I thought it was a short cut. It took me ages to realise that it was actually longer. When going up JA you are heading away from BWL, but then the road bends and you head towards it again before arriving on Brixton Hill only about 50 metres further up from it.

Anyone else done this, or am I just stupid?

yes, Josephine Avenue is certainly a bit sneaky in this respect. I think it was built with the deliberate intention of disorienting people. In fact a lot of the roads nearby have wierd 45degree kinks in them to the same end.

This raises the question of the shortest route to Brixton tube from the top of Leander Road. Do you take Helix Rd or Leander Rd and when you get to Josephine avenue do you go left or right? Or do you go straight down Arodene Rd to Brixton Hill? Or through the estate to Tulse Hill?

Controversial.
zenazena
13-03-2007, 18:20
you have a strange name. What's the origins and are you so good you named yourself twice? :confused:

i'm like new york innit - so nice they named it twice...
alternatively .... a good friend (who is muslim) told me that zena is the arabic word for 'sex before marriage' ie: VERY BAD :eek:
Maggot
13-03-2007, 18:36
This raises the question of the shortest route to Brixton tube from the top of Leander Road. Do you take Helix Rd or Leander Rd and when you get to Josephine avenue do you go left or right? Or do you go straight down Arodene Rd to Brixton Hill? Or through the estate to Tulse Hill?

Controversial. Looking at the map, Leander Road is a bit closer to Tulse Hill, so going through the estate looks quicker. However Helix Road might be more direct, it's certainly shorter than Leander Road cos it's on the inside of the bend. It's a tricky one.

I think you should time yourself doing each route a number of times, and work out which one is quickest on average. ;)
Minnie_the_Minx
14-03-2007, 10:30
alternatively .... a good friend (who is muslim) told me that zena is the arabic word for 'sex before marriage' ie: VERY BAD :eek:


What bollox :rolleyes:

:D
Minnie_the_Minx
14-03-2007, 10:33
Looking at the map, Leander Road is a bit closer to Tulse Hill, so going through the estate looks quicker. However Helix Road might be more direct, it's certainly shorter than Leander Road cos it's on the inside of the bend. It's a tricky one.



As long as I've lived on Brixton Hill and had friends in all three roads, at both ends, I've NEVER figured out which is quicker :D
PacificOcean
14-03-2007, 10:44
I used to live on Helix Road.

As you were.
Minnie_the_Minx
14-03-2007, 10:50
I used to live on Helix Road.

As you were.


so did my sister. At the top, near those steps that lead to Elm Park. She got sick of getting burgled though
teuchter
14-03-2007, 11:39
Looking at the map, Leander Road is a bit closer to Tulse Hill, so going through the estate looks quicker. However Helix Road might be more direct, it's certainly shorter than Leander Road cos it's on the inside of the bend. It's a tricky one.

I think you should time yourself doing each route a number of times, and work out which one is quickest on average. ;)

I used to live off Stockwell Road and there was an equally controversial debate about the quickest way back home from the Effra. Across to Altantic Rd and down that way, or up to Effra Road and down the High St?
malice
14-03-2007, 11:46
I used to live off Stockwell Road and there was an equally controversial debate about the quickest way back home from the Effra. Across to Altantic Rd and down that way, or up to Effra Road and down the High St?


I live by the effra, and debate this every day. I think maybe Rattray road/Saltoun rd, across Windrush square. But I use that for my bus outside Morley's. For Stockwell road there might be an advantage to the Atlantic Road route.

Never got the whole Brixton hill angled streets thing. Confuses me every time.
teuchter
14-03-2007, 13:51
I live by the effra, and debate this every day. I think maybe Rattray road/Saltoun rd, across Windrush square. But I use that for my bus outside Morley's. For Stockwell road there might be an advantage to the Atlantic Road route..

Maybe it depends on which door you use to exit the Effra.
zenazena
14-03-2007, 14:08
What bollox :rolleyes:

:D


read up manx ....

"Numerous Koranic verses define in details which sexual relations are permitted under Islam, and the punishment for any transgression (called zena) outside these limits. Zena is punishable by flogging, imprisonment and stoning to death. "

http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/oppression.htm
Minnie_the_Minx
14-03-2007, 14:13
read up manx ....

"Numerous Koranic verses define in details which sexual relations are permitted under Islam, and the punishment for any transgression (called zena) outside these limits. Zena is punishable by flogging, imprisonment and stoning to death. "

http://www.middleastwomen.org/html/oppression.htm


can't be arsed to read that bollox but I believe you. It does mean lots of other things though - one of them being words to the effect of "beautiful" and "decorative" and "lady" being just a few of them.:p

I sent you a PM