shooting in streatham

[walkssoftly]

Anyone heard about a shooting in streatham last night? caught something on the radio about this but was only half listening so wasn't sure.

I've not seen anything on the news or teletext.

[Dubversion]

we were going through Streatham late evening and it seemed even more feisty than usual - a couple of scraps in the street, lots of arsiness :(

[geminisnake]

7 people been arrested after 16 yr old lad shot at Streatham Ice Rink(is that a club). It happened at 22.55 last night apparently. Is certainly on the news but we have Sky so you can read it, you could try the BBC site.

[lang rabbie]

Grim news. :( The ice rink ought to be a safe venue for local teenagers

BBC: Youth, 16, shot dead at ice rink (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6329569.stm)

[saucisson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6329569.stm

16 year old shot dead at ice rink....heard it on the news driving back this afternoon from a friends...really depressed me, especially as I had been telling my friends that streatham wasn't a bad place to live, it still isnt a bad place to live but I am bringing up my children here and of course you worry. what a sad waste.

[hendo]

From the Press Association tonight:

ICE RINK MURDER TEENAGER NAMED
By Chris Greenwood, Pa
Police were tonight hunting a gunman who shot a teenager dead at a crowded ice rink disco.
James Andre Smarrt-Ford, 16, was shot twice during a popular Saturday night
event at Streatham Ice Arena in south west London.
Detectives said: "The shooting took place close to the entrance of the venue
but the victim's body was found on the ice nearby.
"It is believed he ran there through crowds of panicking people after up to
three shots were fired in a bid to escape his killer."
Superintendent Gary Richardson, leading the investigation, said the teenagers' family were in shock.
He said: "His family are devastated. He is a 16-year-old boy who has gone to
the ice rink."
Mr Richardson said there were up to 300 young people aged in their late teens and early 20s at the rink when the shooting took place at about 11pm.
He said on hearing the shots the crowd "starburst" out of the nearby main
entrance and on to Streatham High Road.
Speaking about the shooting, he said: "It would appear that he had been shot outside the rink and ran on to the rink and fallen over because of the injuries he has received."

[waverunner]

Utterly utterly shite :( What the fuck are kids doing with fucking guns. How the hell did this happen? What sort of fucking world do we live in where youths shoot other youths? We're supposed to be living in a civilised country, in the fucking capital of this country. Its utterly fucking ridiculous and such a waste :(

[hendo]

and more from PA

Mr Richardson said the gunman was described by witnesses as black and wearing
dark clothing.
He appealed for everyone who was at the disco to contact Operation Trident,
the Scotland Yard unit that specialises in investigating black gun crime.
The police officer said the disco was dark at the time of the shooting and
security staff patrolled the area with torches.
He said: "We are still trying to build up a picture of how he came to be
here.
"Did the gunman target a gang of individuals, him on his own or indeed was it
that he was not the intended target?"
Streatham Ice Arena is popular with young people in the area and hosts skating
classes, birthday parties and schools.
Speaking about the venue, Mr Richardson said: "There have been no other
shootings linked to these premises that I'm aware of or indeed any other ice
rink. It is something of an anomaly."
Detectives were today quizzing six male youths and one 18-year-old man at a
south London police station.

[pk]

If it's in Streatham, it'll be linked to crack, odds on...

[story]

If it's in Streatham, it'll be linked to crack, odds on...


No. Not.

Knee jerk reaction there, pk.

It may have been bullying, or a "disrespect issue" (as was mooted for the recent Brixton McDonalds shooting), or any number of other reasons.

Assuming it's about crack just because of where it happened is foolish.

Kids have always behaved towards each other with thoughtless aggression. That they now do so with guns is the horror.

[SubZeroCat]

That's 10 mins from where I live. I was gonna go ice-skating there the other week. This gun thing is out of control - guns in McDonald's and now in a ice rink?

There was a bad car crash just in front of the ice rink less than a week ago. Fire engines, police, ambulance etc and a guy with his car in the middle of the road, slumped over the steering wheel :(

[pk]

Where there's guns, there's usually crack.

[likesfish]

teenage gangsta:rolleyes: with a gun :(
well he's going to jail for along time hope it was worth it :(

[Structaural]

:(

[aurora green]

This is really shocking news. At 16, that boy would still have been in school.
My kids go to school in Streatham and recently there's been a number of violent incidents.
During the small flurry of snow a couple of weeks back, two 16 year olds had a fight, resulting in one of them being punched out. The police were called because they were over 16.
The next day, the friends and family of the knocked out boy, were waiting outside the school gates, ready to beat up any year 11 pupil they saw. More police...
Last week, my 14 year old daughter gets hit around the head with a cricket bat in school. Completely unprovoked.
Anyways of course, none of this is connected, or even relevent, but something deeply bad is going on with youngsters around here, violence is often the first course of action.
The idea, well reality, of 16 years olds branishing guns is horrific, and utterly frightening.
I feel so sad for the victims' family. Devastating.

[Streathamite]

jesus, this happened 10 mins walk from mine. what is happening to London?

[story]

Where there's guns, there's usually crack.


Are you ignorant or naive? Or just being reactionary?

[pk]

I used to live in Streatham, every gun murder or meticulous torture or otherwise unsavoury method of execution was crack related.

It's worse than high-profile Brixton, less cops and less cameras.

So all the big dealing tends to happen away from Brixton.

[pk]

Of course this lad being 16 makes it unlikely he's a big dealer or anything, but I'll bet the killers were high on the shit when whatever percieved 'diss, took place, the cunts.

[waverunner]

I'll bet they weren't. Which makes it even worse in a way. Can't even blame it on drugs anymore, now we just have to face up to the fact that some kids are so fucking cold hearted that at an age when they should still be innocent and young they are quite content to shoot another kid dead in a public place and not give a flyin fuck.

[FabricLiveBaby!]

7 people been arrested after 16 yr old lad shot at Streatham Ice Rink(is that a club).

No it's an actaul ice rink :(

I was going to go there on saturday but opted for queensway instead. Wouldn't have been there at the time of the shooting mind. It's a shame becasue it's one of the best ice rinks in london and one of the few places kids in streatham can go, although the last few times I've been it has gotten more rowdy.

Shocked. I hope they don't have a knee jerk close down :(

[fat Andy]

I don't think it is necessarily crack related. Sure the murders involving older people often are, but the 16 yr old kids in London are getting very gang concious. The slightest insult or verbal threat escalates into this tragic nonsense. What used to be solved with a punch in the face, now results in this sort of tragic waste of a life. Previous posts have mentioned the lack of youth centres etc, this is so completly right, there is simply nothing to do

[pk]

I agree the situation is fucked up, and my comments aren't dismissing this tragedy out of hand.

But what do you suggest?

Youth clubs and church halls just become another venue for violence, I mean if this kind of thing can happen at the Ice Rink, one of the few things kids can do in Streatham...

[aurora green]

Somehow, we urgently need to make teenagers feel that they are valued members of society, who have a real future.
I think it's a pretty desperate world our youngsters are growing up in, climate change, 1/4 million quid for a small house... What future for those less academically minded?
It's grim.
We need to invest in these young people.

During the incident involving my daughter at school last week, I discovered that every secondary school in Lambeth has a designated policeman inside all day, yet no nurse. I couldn't believe it, a cop was somehow afforded, but no money for a school nurse. My girl had been hit around the head with a bat, a policeman had been on hand, but no nurse to examine her. It seemed pretty fucked up to me. Wierd priorities.

I think we definately ought to be somehow finding ways to open up youth centres, where hobbies and interests can be followed up outside of school and give young people something to do, this costs money of course, but it's so worth it.

[FabricLiveBaby!]

I think the schooling system has alot to awnser for, teachers seem to be tied up with so much red tape that they can't to their job properly, I know many many many teachers ALL of whom are fed up with the lack of freedom they have when it comes to the kids in their school, and copping the blame for bad behaviour as a consequence of their hands being tied. They say that the kids can literaly get away with anything and there's nothing that they can do about it. They have no sense of responsibility because bad beahviour is always someone elses fault.

I think if kids learn at a youg age that they can easily get away with bad behaviour, the situation just perpetuates. As with the kids at firework night, who are up all night pissing about at firing them at strangers and each other they never really get any consequences, until something tragic happens and it's too late. Kids love to push boundaries (in evolutionary terms, it's what theire programmed to do to teach them the difference betwen right and wrong) and they arn't stupid and know what to say and how to get away with stuff if there is too much of a beaurcratic system in place, as with run ins with the police

Tick the right boxes and you can get away with anything. Blame somone else and shift the responsibility.

:(

I agree with you arora, kids need something do to, and pk is right also that if kids have not learnt responsibility they are not likelye to take responsibility for their new youth center, or whatever it is, and duly destroy it.

Kids need to be taught their social responsibilites, but NOT in lessons, it has to be ingrained in the way their are bought up with lots of MUTUAL support of the teachers parents and councils, and firm boundaries need to be set. At the moment neither of the three seem to listen to each other much and there is no communication between the people that should be nutureing these kids.

[Ms T]

A fifteen-year-old was shot dead in Peckham last night as well. It's just too fucking depressing.

[PacificOcean]

It said in the Standard today that the boy who was shot was trying to stop a mugging as the ice-rink was being "steamed" by a gang of 40.

[FabricLiveBaby!]

It said in the Standard today that the boy who was shot was trying to stop a mugging as the ice-rink was being "steamed" by a gang of 40.


No way!

:eek:

That would make him some what of a hero. I certainly wouldnt be brave enough to intervene for this very reson actually. Poor lad :(

[PacificOcean]

No way!

:eek:

That would make him some what of a hero. I certainly wouldnt be brave enough to intervene for this very reson actually. Poor lad :(

Well that is what the family says, which contradicts what others said of him being outside and running in to escape.

Who knows? And sadly, as with these cases, I don't think we ever will. :(