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PacificOcean
10-05-2006, 10:27
It was reported in the Evening Standard on Monday that as part of getting their licence back (after the shameful raid), the police want the Fridge to operate a strict no drugs policy which includes full body searches, sniffer dogs and metal detectors (though who has metal drugs?) among other mesures.
Effectivly, if you can't do pills at the Fridge no-one is going to go IMO. I think the end is nigh for the Fridge, which is a shame.
Nice one Brixton police. You can openly buy crack on the streets but a few ravers off their face on pills feels the full weight of your wrath.
What do others think?
fucking hypocrisy innit!!! why punish a few peeps off their heads in a club when crack n smack are readily being sold/taken on the high street.
fuckwit police are a few headlines. :mad:
Minnie_the_Minx
10-05-2006, 10:42
the police want the Fridge to operate a strict no drugs policy which includes full body searches, sniffer dogs and metal detectors (though who has metal drugs?)
:D :D
Maybe it'll prompt a shift in what the Fridge is used for. There were plenty of gigs at the Fridge ten years ago - and hardly any now. It might come back as a live venue.
Well so long as you aren't depending on buying the drugs inside you can still smuggle in a few yourself. No matter how comprehensive the body search, it's not difficult at all to take a few pills in with you.
Well so long as you aren't depending on buying the drugs inside you can still smuggle in a few yourself. No matter how comprehensive the body search, it's not difficult at all to take a few pills in with you.
What about the sniffer dogs?
(dunno if they have a nose for pills or not)
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:13
further to this, Mass is on its last warning, George 4 is under very heavy manners and i've even been warned about people smoking at PROD.
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:14
Maybe it'll prompt a shift in what the Fridge is used for. There were plenty of gigs at the Fridge ten years ago - and hardly any now. It might come back as a live venue.
and it is a GREAT live venue :)
(thinks fondly of that classic Southern / SRD Xmas party in the early 90s :) )
I find this whole affair pretty suspect...what makes me think that the venue will reopen as part of some chain or other.
Who owns the venue at the moment?
Who owns the venue at the moment?
*a group of chinese businessmen* apparently. What it said in the reports anyway.
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:20
I find this whole affair pretty suspect...what makes me think that the venue will reopen as part of some chain or other.
not sure that's the case - a friend of mine in the licensing trade and with some cop connections says it's just a really serious crackdown across the Brixton venues
(thinks fondly of that classic Southern / SRD Xmas party in the early 90s :) )
oh good grief :(
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:22
oh good grief :(
what? what the fuck's wrong with remembering a great gig?
you're dumped.
not sure that's the case - a friend of mine in the licensing trade and with some cop connections says it's just a really serious crackdown across the Brixton venues
why are they targeting venues across Brixton instead of the more visible and arguably more threatening street dealing? so u cannot pop a pill in a club but u can openly buy/sell crack n smack on the high street?
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:28
why are they targeting venues across Brixton instead of the more visible and arguably more threatening street dealing? so u cannot pop a pill in a club but u can openly buy/sell crack n smack on the high street?
because it's about licensed premises being cracked down on, whole different set of rules and it's easy to find someone to blame so it looks like something's being done.
PacificOcean
10-05-2006, 11:34
Just to add out of interest, the Evening Standard also reported in the same story that the cocaine seized from the dealers only contained 20% cocaine.
and it is a GREAT live venue :)
I headlined there once!
:D
tarannau
10-05-2006, 11:40
I was thinking exactly the same thing of late.
The Fridge, as resolutely unfashionable as it is now, must be suffering badly now - they're catering to a loyal scene, but I reckon those measures must hit, even if by word of mouth alone. I'd also be surprised if the George, shorn of its long hours and now requiring a whopping 4 bouncer combo, will be able to stay afloat with those added costs. Tongue and Groove has seemingly closed (or is being refurbished for a bit too long) after they tried to insist on dress codes and had a warning about the exceptionally busy toilet area.
Dark times for club owners?
Why is Mass on a last warning? Drugs too?
Dubversion
10-05-2006, 11:43
Why is Mass on a last warning? Drugs too?
and guns / knives.
:(
detective-boy
10-05-2006, 13:39
Nice one Brixton police.
Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with? :rolleyes:
s.norbury
10-05-2006, 13:40
I was down the Fridge the night it first opened, twas crap, no booze and pre e
Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with? :rolleyes:
Street dealing is illegal as well. Who gets to decide that police resources are to be concentrated on drugs in clubs instead of drugs on the street?
hmmm how hard is it to find a dealer in Brixton I wonder???
Well there is a huge drugs forum on this, a brixton based website to start with, and just walking down any Brixton street will give you access to any number of street dealers and crack houses...but nooooo...the police decide to engage in a counter terrorism style operation on one venue, they invite the press (allegedly) and arrest a couple of petty criminals.
I have heard it time and time again from ex dealers that the police know who the big drugs dealers are...but they leave them alone...why is this?
:rolleyes:
I know I am going to be flamed for this but...
[devil's_advocate]"What has the Fridge ever done for Brixton?"[/devil's_advocate]
Would it really matter if it closed down and a different business took over, either as a different club or with a different use?
I am in favour of legalising drugs and letting people have a fully informed choice abourt what they want or don;t want to put into their bodies or what lifestyle they want to lead, but I have never really shed tears over club owners & clubs with all their bouncers, dress codes, £15 tickets, overpriced drinks and wanky people listening to wanky music while snorting half the GPD of colombia up their perma-tanned bonces.
All I have ever been to is a couple of mid-week free nights at the Fridge Bar next door and IMO they weren't really all that. To me it has always been (like the Academy) somewhere which typically I can't afford to go, I am not dressed right, I don't fancy the music and which I get the impression is a "tourist" destination ("tourist" being from anywhere round London) rather than full of local people.
Would anyone like to disabuse me of my prejudices here and tell me why I should give a shit about the Fridge?
(of course I support people's freedom from a drugs policy point of view - my point is more of a "devil's advocate" one about the Fridge in particular)
how about it creates jobs and brings in money to the area? (i dunno, just a suggestion really!)
PacificOcean
10-05-2006, 15:28
Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with? :rolleyes:
Well if you quoted my entire sentence rather than one part, you Mr Detective, could have cleverly deduced that many in Brixton find street dealing more of a pressing problem than some ravers in a club. All those officers for a raid and months of police work to arrest a few small time e dealers.
Well the people of Brixton can sleep safely now (unless they are getting burgled, but then the police don't even turn up for that anymore)
Well the people of Brixton can sleep safely now (unless they are getting burgled, but then the police don't even turn up for that anymore)
What... Police just turning up to solve the easy-peasy/sexy-&-interesting crimes... You don't say... :rolleyes:
We woke up to find an intruder in our flat once n called the police (after scaring him away). they never turned up. too busy! :mad:
memespring
10-05-2006, 15:54
Whilst I'm 100% convinced it was the best use of police time, I dont think its an either or issue. A lot of people winge about drug tourists in Brixton, and that it helps fund/persist the wider drugs problem. Were'nt the police dealing with that in busting the fridge?
PacificOcean
10-05-2006, 15:56
Whilst I'm 100% convinced it was the best use of police time, I dont think its an either or issue. A lot of people winge about drug tourists in Brixton, and that it helps fund/persist the wider drugs problem. Were'nt the police dealing with that in busting the fridge?
Two different drug markets. The sort of person who goes to the Fridge is not likely to be buying crack or smack from street dealers nor robbing to pay for their E's.
memespring
10-05-2006, 16:17
Two different drug markets. The sort of person who goes to the Fridge is not likely to be buying crack or smack from street dealers nor robbing to pay for their E's.
There are more than a few street dealers who'll offer pills outside clubs / pubclubs. ]I would have thought some of that money will find its way back into the other drug markets.
2 Hardcore
10-05-2006, 17:14
Found these council minutes from last April - it looks as though the Fridge's days are numbered (or the Fridge as we know it, anyway), regardless.
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3DD3A507-023D-4F0E-877E-3CD207954F10/0/031349.pdf
It's all on page 16.
linerider
10-05-2006, 18:00
I headlined there once!
:D
I've been there with the Alabama 3 and back in the days when it was the Ace, the band i was working with(The Redskins)supported the Dead Kennedys
:cool:
Nickster
10-05-2006, 18:31
£18 entry some nights.....greedy bastards.
worst cloak room in south london....(I queued for an hour once)
won't be missing the Fridge one bit.
dogmatique
10-05-2006, 18:38
Found these council minutes from last April - it looks as though the Fridge's days are numbered (or the Fridge as we know it, anyway), regardless.
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3DD3A507-023D-4F0E-877E-3CD207954F10/0/031349.pdf
It's all on page 16.
Logically, the council should demolish the whole of central Brixton and replace it with council offices and hanging gardens for council officers.
linerider
10-05-2006, 18:59
Logically, the council should demolish the whole of central Brixton and replace it with council offices and hanging gardens for council officers.
and lets be honest alot of council officers need hanging :p
William of Walworth
10-05-2006, 20:23
I kind of sympathise with TeeJay's reaction ... to the Fridge specifically
I've only been there twice (Zion Train gig in 1996, and Escape from Samsara on an Xmas Eve about 3 years later).
Didn't like the venue (or in the second case the music, much!) on either occasion.
No doubt it's changed a lot since, but I loathe heavily bouncered venues.
All the same, I recognise what others are saying -- disturbing that there seem to be crackdowns across all licensed venues in Brixton. Due warning taken ;)
I've been there with the Alabama 3 and back in the days when it was the Ace, the band i was working with(The Redskins)supported the Dead Kennedys
:cool:
The Redskins and the Dead Kennedys on the same bill in Brixton?!?
*expires*
:cool: :cool: :cool:
linerider
10-05-2006, 23:05
The Redskins and the Dead Kennedys on the same bill in Brixton?!?
*expires*
:cool: :cool: :cool:
It was for a TV program called"Whatever You Want",which was one of the first music shows on channel 4.I had a ball as Jon Langford from the mekons was due to play percusion with the Redskins,but turn up to late too sign the contract,so i signed it and got paid for going on stage for one tune(Reds strike the blues)and got £140 for making a twat of myself. ;)
If the "bigger picture" is a concerted attack on the "dance" / rave type venues, then we all know where this will get us.
Back where it all started. Back before the powers that be allowed any club to cater for that type of music and culture (and drugs).
Back to completely illegal and unregulated events (which never quite went away anyway, but which will jump in popularity if loads of those clubs get closed down). Is this what they want?
I do wonder why this sudden jumping on places where, yes, some people are doing illegal drugs, but where there is very little trouble, where the customers can afford their drugs, are happy to take them, are in an adult environment, etc.
Especially in an area where you only have to take a 5 or 10 minute walk to come across some very blatant, very problematic drug consumption, right there, in front of every passing man, woman and kid.
Giles..
DJWrongspeed
11-05-2006, 07:29
Tongue and Groove has seemingly closed (or is being refurbished for a bit too long) after they tried to insist on dress codes and had a warning about the exceptionally busy toilet area.
hee hee, it's a steamy shagathon in there isn't it:eek:
boozybirdie
11-05-2006, 09:06
Tongue & Groove will be open again on Friday 19th May.
Would anyone like to disabuse me of my prejudices here and tell me why I should give a shit about the Fridge?
The fact that you've never even been to the Fridge is pretty telling :rolleyes: the Fridge Bar and the Fridge itself are pretty different.
For a start, most of the patrons of the fridge proper are more like to be putting dirty horse drugs up their noses, and blood boiling rave drugs down their throats, with it being predominantly a hard dance venue. A lot of people hold the Fridge in great affection, any one of my generation who went to a Pendragon, or Logic party will attest to it as a venue. It used to have an awesome lighting rig, and one of the nicest, non ouchy sound system (a 50K turbo sound system if I remember correctly)
I remember the last time the Fridge was threatened with closure, and lots of people were sad (in fact it was just a cunning ruse by the Fire Club boys)It's held some very good memories for lots of people. So you personally, TeeJay, don't have to give a shit at all, but lots of people do.
tarannau
11-05-2006, 09:32
As much as I liked that place when it opened, I'm not exactly champing at the bit to see Tongue and Groove back again.
At first the management seemed inclusive, committed to a diverse crowd - a welcoming and likeable place to be in. By the end it had turned into just another snotty venue with ideas above its station. Arrogant management, complete with a shitty 'no sportswear' policy and an attitude that got people's backs up. Add to that high prices with a lack of attention to detail and service - paying near £4 for a beer, you'd expect more than a couple of cheaply whacked out Word document signs promoting nights and telling you of their door policy.
Wonder which version will open up. If it's the latter, then I fear the worst...
bluestreak
11-05-2006, 09:55
:eek: i was in conversation with one of the guys who was involved in the raid on the fridge and if what he told me was true then i can understand why it happened.
Come on then - what did he say?
:eek: i was in conversation with one of the guys who was involved in the raid on the fridge and if what he told me was true then i can understand why it happened.
and that was...:confused:
Minnie_the_Minx
11-05-2006, 10:03
Found these council minutes from last April - it looks as though the Fridge's days are numbered (or the Fridge as we know it, anyway), regardless.
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3DD3A507-023D-4F0E-877E-3CD207954F10/0/031349.pdf
It's all on page 16.
They have the money to build new offices? :eek:
Are there no empty buildings in Lambeth they can use?
Why are they wanting to lay off loads of Housing Benefit staff? :confused:
bluestreak
11-05-2006, 10:06
we're not supposed to talk about ongoing court cases are we?
tarannau
11-05-2006, 10:11
Pootle's right about the Fridge by the way - it and the Fridge Bar are very different entities somehow. The Fridge Bar can cater for a lot of Brixton locals ime - not always my bag, but they did used to have some very popular RnB and hip hop nights with a very different clientele to the main club.
Now, I may not value the trancetastic sounds generally heard in the main club, but it's been a key place for many folk over the years. I'd love to see a more diverse music policy in there, but the Fridge has had a genuine role in attracting people to Brixton over the years. I very much doubt most of those coming have any need to buy drugs off the street - it's generally a closely knit scene with plenty of supply options.
What do others think?
i think this is the biggest load of bollocks and you hit the nail on the head with the skewed priorities
its going to push things further underground - not always a bad thing imo anyway.
detective-boy
11-05-2006, 10:17
Street dealing is illegal as well. Who gets to decide that police resources are to be concentrated on drugs in clubs instead of drugs on the street?
They're not.
Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with? :rolleyes:
ha ha ha
the police make their own local targets? can't be too difficult for the head ob to suggest his officers might be better deployed clearing the streets of drugs problems before tackling the 'soft' targets..
back to the squats and warehouses people...
PacificOcean
11-05-2006, 10:20
ha ha ha
the police make their own local targets? can't be too difficult for the head ob to suggest his officers might be better deployed clearing the streets of drugs problems before tackling the 'soft' targets..
back to the squats and warehouses people...
And if you remember the original story, they spent MONTHS on gathering intellegence and then all those officers needed for the raid.
Net effect on Brixton's drug problem. Zero.
detective-boy
11-05-2006, 10:23
I have heard it time and time again from ex dealers that the police know who the big drugs dealers are...but they leave them alone...why is this?
You've not read about big drug seizures and big time drug dealers being banged up then?
http://www.met.police.uk/job/job947/live_files/1.htm and mainsteam media reports ad nauseum
And if you remember the original story, they spent MONTHS on gathering intellegence and then all those officers needed for the raid.
Net effect on Brixton's drug problem. Zero.
i have been following this story with interest. Whilst the Fridge is not my fave venue for many of the reasons outlined elsewhere, just because i rarely choose to attend it, doesnt mean thousands of other people should be denied the opportunity.
particularly as it seems like yet another example of the police chasing easy headlines because they are incapable of dealing with the real issues.
You've not read about big drug seizures and big time drug dealers being banged up then?
http://www.met.police.uk/job/job947/live_files/1.htm and mainsteam media reports ad nauseum
come on, we are all familiar with the term 'turning a blind eye' to dealers who cause the police few problems.
detective-boy
11-05-2006, 10:34
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
PacificOcean
11-05-2006, 10:40
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
Yes, I am sure many on this forum will be ringing as we speak.
What's the point anyway? They never turn up anymore when you dial 999, so why are they going to do anything if you ring a freephone number?
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
I have called the police in Brixton countless amounts of time to get them to intervene/stop the dealing n drug taking under my flat. they didn't bother coming on a lot of occasions n when they did it was either too late or ineffective.
smackheads n crackheads on my doorstep is a much more pressing issue that a few tranceheads taking E in a confined space on a saturday night.
but of course, the latter are easier to deal with. and provide great headlines!
corporate whore
11-05-2006, 10:43
Net effect on Brixton's drug problem. Zero.
Indeed. Three dealers up in court are from Thamesmead, Barking and Harrow.
Drugs tourism, eh? Supply tourists and demand tourists!
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
no one likes a grass :mad: :rolleyes:
bluestreak
11-05-2006, 11:10
the point of that raid was 1) to tell people that brixton is not tolerant of drugs, and 2) to shut down a possible major dealing and arms selling operation.
now i prefer getting the crackheads off the scene myself, and learnt a lot about that whilst being ranted at by one of brixton's undercover coppers the other night.
arms selling???? what next a BAE subsidiary????
and how can you tell the world brixton is not tolerant of drugs when all they need to do is get off the tube to see drugs being sold/taken around them? :confused: :mad:
You can't have open dealing in a nightclub that's featured in the tourist guides.
Can't be done.
but u can have it on the street? what kind of logic is that? either no dealing EVERYWHERE or then let's deal wherever we like.
and by ur logic pk, it's been listed in the guides for ages and there has been dealing for ages. what changed all of a sudden?
I'm saying it's easier for the cops to turn a blind eye to underground venues, but not licenced ones that feature in the Lonely Planet guide books.
As for why it hasn't been raided before - it has!
Yossarian
11-05-2006, 11:46
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
"Don't blame the police - how were they supposed to know there was street dealing happening in Brixton? You never told them about it!" :D
I'm saying it's easier for the cops to turn a blind eye to underground venues, but not licenced ones that feature in the Lonely Planet guide books.
As for why it hasn't been raided before - it has!
i'm sure its presence in lonely planet swung it..
as has been stated on this thread, plenty of venues are getting grief in brixton
Yes, but perhaps not quite as comprehensively, given the length of time taken to survey the Fridge club and work out who the players were...
Yes, but perhaps not quite as comprehensively, given the length of time taken to survey the Fridge club and work out who the players were...
fair point
over the years i have been going out, many venues have had problems with drugs/dealers (ofen security related) but rarely has it led to extreme measures such as those being proposed for the Fridge ime.
normally a raid followed by a change of door crew suffices.
i'm not prone to conspiracy theories but this just seems another facet of the ongoing war against anything that is considered 'alternative' (ie not generating profits for big companies) whilst ignoring social problems which, imo, are much more damaging to society.
I can agree with that to a degree, but really I don't think the cops are aligned with any kind of master plan to get people to spend money in taxable venues.
Generating profits for big companies is what people do, a few ravers aren't going to change anything there.
Brixton Hatter
11-05-2006, 12:42
so...potential loss of another 'alternative' venue - I can easily see some uber-All Bar One or other crap type of commercial nightclub/bar moving in. If it's recently been acquired by some Chinese businessmen, you can bet their priority is to make lots of cash, rather than support the UK trance scene :D and the best way to make lots of cash is to charge a big entry fee and sell people bottled lager for £3.50...
We woke up to find an intruder in our flat once n called the police (after scaring him away). they never turned up. too busy! :mad:the trick is to say "umm....I think they might be armed..." One of my mates jumped a cab home once at 3am and the driver chased him and found his house...he came back with his mates and was stood outside shouting "i'm gonna shoot you!" Another flatmate woke up, heard this, called the coppers....and within about 30 seconds two riot vans full of armed coppers turned up on their doorstep :eek: So the narks do have the ability to respond quickly...
why are they targeting venues across Brixton instead of the more visible and arguably more threatening street dealing? so u cannot pop a pill in a club but u can openly buy/sell crack n smack on the high street?
It's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. The police are such cowards! Given the choice of busting a bunch of pilled up gay ravers or addressing the slightly more pressing concern of tooled up crack dealers, they go for the soft option. I'd love to see them put in the same manpower to do something about the Windrush square usual suspects. But that might be a bit scary. Tossers.
It's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. The police are such cowards! Given the choice of busting a bunch of pilled up gay ravers or addressing the slightly more pressing concern of tooled up crack dealers, they go for the soft option. I'd love to see them put in the same manpower to do something about the Windrush square usual suspects. But that might be a bit scary. Tossers.
Having seen some of the Mets finest.... I wonder if wandering around in a tight Policemans uniform in club of coked up, pilled gay clubbers is the easiest option for them... :D
Having seen some of the Mets finest.... I wonder if wandering around in a tight Policemans uniform in club of coked up, pilled gay clubbers is the easiest option for them... :D
:D
So the narks do have the ability to respond quickly...
I'll keep that in mind for next time!
Droppin'
11-05-2006, 21:21
Having once been driven through Brixton in the back of a police car on the scout for the idiots that stole my phone and subjected to questions such as, 'Why one Earth do you want to live here?' etc from some of Lambeth's finest, it just showed how much they really care about the borough that they are supposed to serve and protect. Totally out of touch and more interested in showing the media at large that they are a police force to be reckoned with in the fight against drug crime in Brixton, they have picked possibly one of the softest spots to stake a claim.
I personally think the Fridge is crap these days, although it has been a long time since I've been, but what is spoiling the party for a few ravers really actually going to achieve?
Reduction in drugs in Brixton? No
Scare people into not take drugs when they go out in Brixton? No
Make the police look ever more like a bunch of nonsensical cowards who prey on the soft targets and ignore the bigger problems of people openly trying to force drugs down peoples throats in the street that don't want it as opposed to those taking them through choice in clubs and are not doing anyone any harm other than possibly themselves? Oh yes!
Still, the police are only the conduit really, you can't blame them. It's this stupid fucking govt that is so nonplussed about drugs that they can't even implement a cannabis law properly that we have to hold our hands up to in disbelief!
Although, the police don't help themselves by attracting to their ranks a whole bunch of ex-louts like Terry from that Streets song. Some of the biggest beer-swilling, rugby ra ra boys I have ever met have ended up in the police as they lack the imagination to do anything else and it's these pricks that will arrest you for carrying an eighth, but let you walk on by if you stagger past having sunk twelve pints and you can hardly walk straight, making you a danger to yourself and others around you - coz that's ok, it's just lads and lassies out having fun....
Brixton Hatter
11-05-2006, 22:15
top post Droppin' :)
detective-boy
12-05-2006, 06:51
normally a raid followed by a change of door crew suffices.
Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a normal situation ... which would perhaps explain a response which is larger than ... er ... normal (unless of course you know of dozens of other operations on this scale recently which have somehow been kept out of the press).
...Some of the biggest beer-swilling, rugby ra ra boys I have ever met have ended up in the police...I thought ra ra boys ended up as estate agents or stock brokers?
It's usually people with no imagination and an inferiorirty complex that end up in the police. I knew someone who really wantyed to be a prison warder but failed the exam or whatever and ended up joining the force! Nob.
linerider
12-05-2006, 12:48
Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a normal situation ... which would perhaps explain a response which is larger than ... er ... normal (unless of course you know of dozens of other operations on this scale recently which have somehow been kept out of the press).
while the fridge might be a little bit different because the doorpeople are run by a bunch of gangsters(no names no packdrill)it still doesn't explain why the police raided a gay night in force,instead of arresting the ten or so crack and smack dealers 30 yards away.it just seems like a publicity stunt to to locals.
while the fridge might be a little bit different because the doorpeople are run by a bunch of gangsters(no names no packdrill)it still doesn't explain why the police raided a gay night in force,instead of arresting the ten or so crack and smack dealers 30 yards away.it just seems like a publicity stunt to to locals.
Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...
linerider
12-05-2006, 13:49
Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...
still a soft target though eh? :rolleyes:
linerider
12-05-2006, 13:51
Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...
does that mean people were having sex with parrots
:p
It's usually people with no imagination and an inferiorirty complex that end up in the police. I knew someone who really wantyed to be a prison warder but failed the exam or whatever and ended up joining the force! Nob.
a good friend of mine joined the police and doesnt fit any of the stereotypes posted about rank and file plod these days. he's still a normal bloke.
i dont deny there are utter idiots and ive met loads myself. but ive also spoken to lots of police who are alright, just doing a job with a sense of humour like anyone else.
detective-boy
12-05-2006, 21:43
a good friend of mine joined the police and doesnt fit any of the stereotypes posted about rank and file plod these days. he's still a normal bloke.
i dont deny there are utter idiots and ive met loads myself. but ive also spoken to lots of police who are alright, just doing a job with a sense of humour like anyone else.
You're new here, right? ;)
U75 Rule 26: Stereotyping by the police, bad. Sterotyping of the police, good.
RushcroftRoader
13-05-2006, 09:01
You're new here, right? ;)
U75 Rule 26: Stereotyping by the police, bad. Sterotyping of the police, good.
Can we stereotype community officers instead?
pylonator
13-05-2006, 14:07
Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with? :rolleyes:
get off your high horse pork chop.
get off your high horse pork chop.You want the police to make the law? :eek:
pylonator
13-05-2006, 15:53
You want the police to make the law? :eek:
yes thats exactly what i want. that and leprosy of the eyeball.
O! U R teh funnie!
:rolleyes:
theres three important steps you need to take when attending any psy-trance party.
step 1: get a big fuck off machine gun
step 2: get lots of bullets for said machine gun
step 3: go to the party and shoot all the fucking hippies to death.
:mad:Sounds like maybe you are sytill sore about being rejected for SO19
And you actually feel sad that the venue for Escape From Samsara etc has been raided?
Oh no, I see - you are just being "oh so funny*".
:rolleyes:
*translation provided for non-idiots
pylonator
13-05-2006, 16:15
Sounds like maybe you are sytill sore about being rejected for SO19
And you actually feel sad that the venue for Escape From Samsara etc has been raided?
Oh no, I see - you are just being "oh so funny*".
:rolleyes:
*translation provided for non-idiots
ay, you know me so well teejie. :)
Not yet, but I am sure you will change that soon enough.
FRIDGE REOPENS........
WITH 27 conditions placed on operating arrangements.
corporate whore
16-05-2006, 11:51
Is one of the conditions never to hold any psy-trance nights? :)
detective-boy
16-05-2006, 18:48
Once again, in a sickening display of cowardice, we see the gang of beer swilling rugby ra-ra boys who call themselves the police, spending MONTHS gathering intelligence on a harmless gang of tooled up, murdering drug importers responsible for 90% of London's heroin. This bunch of nonsensical cowards have once more demonstrated they would rather prey on soft targets and chase easy headlines rather that ... er ... ignoring social problems which are much more damaging to society ... er ... such as busting a few more loved-up pillheads at a London club. This wilful ignoring of bigger problems shows their cowardice and it panders to their inferority complex when they display their utter lack of imagination in carrying out this ... er ... publicity stunt to guarantee great headlines rather ... er ... doing what they are paid for just because that might be a bit scary .... er ... why are they incapable of dealing with the real issue ... er ... we all know why they "turn a blind eye" to these clubbers ... er ... tossers ... ;)
Seriously though, compare and contrast the media coverage of the Fridge raid with the media coverage of this case ...
Droppin'
17-05-2006, 16:29
I thought ra ra boys ended up as estate agents or stock brokers?
They do as well. They go into all walks of life. But whichever job they decide to do, they are the ones to be found at the end of the evening propping the bar up, talking louder than everyone else, talking about the last bit of 'skirt' they had to the world in general and other various associated joys to their friends. Good luck to them, but they are not the kind of people that should join the police force in my view. I know at least two such guys who used to get smashed and get involved in fights when they went out in Wimbledon. Both constables of the force in South London. Thankfully one of them bit off more than he could chew and has since stopped that sort of shit, the other seems to have vanished.
Isn't becoming a PC a bit downmarket for a stuck-up, overpriviledged public school type? :confused:
PacificOcean
18-05-2006, 08:23
Isn't becoming a PC a bit downmarket for a stuck-up, overpriviledged public school type? :confused:
Don't they get fast-tracked on some special scheme where they only have to be a PC for a year or so?
Only an idiot would assume that ANYONE goes to a club, er NIGHTCLUB, in order to swill cups of single estate Darjeeling and nibble on cucumber sandwiches, sans crust. Coke was common, well certainly available at places like Cafe de Paris back in the 20s so the connection between clubbing and drugs is fairly well established.
IF you dont want people using drugs in clubs, then WHY LICENCE so fucking many of them in Brixton?
Maybe the council want to create some sort of cafe bar culture a la Barca,or Valencia - actually the charlie in Spanish bars is usually of very high quality so ref the "only 20% coke in the <powders>" sold in the Fridge maybe it aint such a bad idea......
It seems to me that Brixton has that "edge" so beloved of our "social commentators" who spew out bollocks about vibrance, diversity and all that but what they really mean is - I want a clean and santized, behind barbed wire experience so I can watch the weirdies in safety - the modern equivalent of going to Bedlam - so clean up the bars and clubs so they can gain vicarious joy from watching flocks of desperate junkies running thru the streets while sipping a long cool glass of wine. "Oh I say Justin, look at that one legged chap, isnt it charming?"
So, close the clubs, open more £5 a beer bars, run tours, invite Disney Corp to take over the council
Utterly pointless as kilos of crack will still change hands every day on CHL, the market, Rushcroft etc
Cant see any massive sweeps of that particular open air drugs market happening any day soon
Something isn't right here. Noone has waded into the thread and called everyone subconscious racists yet. :confused:
Shippou-Chan
19-05-2006, 05:40
meta-racist!
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