View Full Version : Prostitution on/near Josephine Ave.
I've lived on one of the roads off of Josephine for 2 and a half years now and recently I've noticed a marked increase in prostitutes hanging around the Brixton Hill end of the road, some laughably outside the job centre. Why don't the police do something about this problem when they are so obvious? Anyone else have any views about this?
Dubversion
20-12-2005, 22:50
there's always been a fair number of prostitution on Brixton Hill, well at least since i first lived round there 15 years ago, but the numbers seem to fluctuate.
there's always been a fair number of prostitution on Brixton Hill, well at least since i first lived round there 15 years ago, but the numbers seem to fluctuate.
You're right they've always been here, but recently there's a lot, I guess they will always be somewhere and I don't want to come accross as all 'well as long as it's not in my yard' but to be honest I find them intimidating.
Clive Spate
20-12-2005, 23:54
Hello, and my first post after much browsing!
I live in the same area and also noticed the same. The last time I wrote to the Brixton Chief Supt about the problem I was told that in the last 2 years the local vice unit had increased in size to one Sergeant and 4 PC's. This was from from 2002 when there had only been one Sergeant and one PC. Also that because most were working on the hill to fund their drug use in 2003 the government had set up a diversion scheme for the women at Camberwell Court which gave them access to health and support groups when appearing as opposed to prosecuting them for prostituting themselves. Whether this worked or not I suppose is down to the number still visible in Josephine Avenue!
But hey, if they want to get rid of the problem why not give each the flavour of the month ASBO and put the lot in prison...out of sight, out of mind. :rolleyes:
memespring
21-12-2005, 00:42
out of sight, out of mind. :rolleyes:
I'm going to stick that in wikipedia as the definition of an ASBO.
Johnny Canuck2
21-12-2005, 00:43
I've lived on one of the roads off of Josephine for 2 and a half years now and recently I've noticed a marked increase in prostitutes hanging around the Brixton Hill end of the road, some laughably outside the job centre. Why don't the police do something about this problem when they are so obvious? Anyone else have any views about this?
What do you suggest: rubber bullets?
Johnny Canuck2
21-12-2005, 00:48
Last week I was in an interior city. It was fairly cold: about -12 at night. There were young native indian prostitutes in miniskirts and bare legs, or jeans and shortie tops with their bellies exposed.
Struck me as being a pretty demanding job. I was wearing a big coat and gloves.
Last week I was in an interior city. It was fairly cold: about -12 at night. There were young native indian prostitutes in miniskirts and bare legs, or jeans and shortie tops with their bellies exposed.
Struck me as being a pretty demanding job. I was wearing a big coat and gloves.
That sounds like the girls of Newcastle.
OriginalSinner
21-12-2005, 04:28
What do you suggest: rubber bullets?
Just rubbers, really.
Yossarian
21-12-2005, 12:11
Why don't the police do something about this problem when they are so obvious?
'Coz prostitution's legal?
Fruitloop
21-12-2005, 12:12
Soliciting ain't.
To me, overt whoring, like drug dealing, as a criminal activity, is a consequence of laws that just do not respect human nature.
All periodic attempts to make it go away are doomed. Even the most oppressive police action wil only shuffle it away for a while.
Legalise it and control it. People want to shag whores, like they want to take drugs.
At least allow them to go somewhere to do it that isn't in the face of people who don't want to be involved in either.
Giles..
Minnie_the_Minx
22-12-2005, 10:43
OP: You've only just noticed an increase? :D
The numbers fall and rise depending on police presence. Plain clothed police often patrol the area.
My friend used to live in the first house facing Brixton Hill (side of it was Josephine). He'd forever be finding condoms and crap outside his front door every morning.
It got slightly better when loads of the greenery out the front was cut down although not for him, as his front door was below ground level so they all used his front door as a shagging post :(
BIG davie H
22-12-2005, 11:20
That sounds like the girls of Newcastle.
and liverpoool
i lived on raleigh gardens off Brixton Hill a few years ago and we'd always see condoms and prostitutes around there... it got a bit better in 2004.
Minnie_the_Minx
22-12-2005, 11:45
i lived on raleigh gardens off Brixton Hill a few years ago and we'd always see condoms and prostitutes around there... it got a bit better in 2004.
should have cut down all your greenery ;)
should have cut down all your greenery ;)
they did... that helped but not very much TBH.
Ewww, a shagging post, that's pretty grim. It's less the women I mind and more the pimps, dealers, horrible men in cars I object to, that said one flashed her crotch at a friend of mine a while ago, and that's just not on. :eek:
Minnie_the_Minx
22-12-2005, 12:40
Ewww, a shagging post, that's pretty grim. It's less the women I mind and more the pimps, dealers, horrible men in cars I object to, that said one flashed her crotch at a friend of mine a while ago, and that's just not on. :eek:
the shagging post being his front door (below ground level) :D
I used to live off Josephine Ave (OK, Helix Gardens, if you must know). I remember I was going out at about 8am one Christmas Morning, and I could see a prostitute on the corner. And by the time I got to the junction she'd been picked up.
Christmas Morning. :(
I guess on Christmas morning people are even more likely to feel lonely than at other times, very sad and sleazy prostitution :(
Hmmmm, I'm not sure where I stand with the concept of 'loneliness' with what I see around here, these are not call girls who go for dinner and hang out in their houses, I imagine these girls are in cars and in alleys, they are clearly pretty ill with crack etc. I feel a weird mix of disgust and pity, an odd mix of emotions about the whole thing.
gaijingirl
24-12-2005, 16:43
Where I used to live opposite Mango Landin' on St Matthew's Road girls would bring their clients back to shag underneath our bedroom window... somehow I never really noticed, but everyone else did...
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:38
They go everywhere, i think its even more disgusting my neice goes to the primary school on new park road and my cousin (her aunty) is a prositute and she works around new park road, josephine av, all over brixton and streatham and camberwell.. Anyway my cousin and her friend walk up and down that bloody road so many times and her friend even has a child at that school, and both my neice and her friend know all about prostitute and them going to jail for it, it disgusts me!!
On another note, most of these girls are only doing it because of all the drugs around brixton[/color]
They go everywhere, i think its even more disgusting my neice goes to the primary school on new park road and my cousin (her aunty) is a prositute and she works around new park road, josephine av, all over brixton and streatham and camberwell.. Anyway my cousin and her friend walk up and down that bloody road so many times and her friend even has a child at that school, and both my neice and her friend know all about prostitute and them going to jail for it, it disgusts me!!
On another note, most of these girls are only doing it because of all the drugs around brixton[/color]
What and you're saying there's none in camberwell or streatham? :confused:
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:42
Obviously theres drugs in camberwell and streatham and most other places in the world (im speaking from experience, ive been a drug user (crack and methodone) but i didnt sell my pussy to fed my habbit, althought alot of the gurls i know did!! so im speaking more on a knowledge than just of what i see.. these gurls most of them dont want to be doing it, yes its a demanding job but they stuck in a rutt! and dont know how to help them selfs! or dont want to!
Pickman's model
26-12-2005, 12:43
at least it's an honest job.
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:45
What prostitution? yeh most prositutes say that, at least i aint robbing ppl or robbing shops im working hard for da money i get is what my cousin always tells me! no matta what ppl say i love my cousin and will protect her and keep her back! she does work fucking hard, and she gets picked up by police she gets fined she gets shoved into prison for 3 weeks then out then in then out blah blah
What prostitution? yeh most prositutes say that, at least i aint robbing ppl or robbing shops im working hard for da money i get is what my cousin always tells me! no matta what ppl say i love my cousin and will protect her and keep her back! she does work fucking hard, and she gets picked up by police she gets fined she gets shoved into prison for 3 weeks then out then in then out blah blah
Haven't Camberwell got an agreement with the girls down there now?
Is your cousin a drug user?
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:48
Yes Crack and Heroin!! Most of my family around South London are drug users, Uncles in brixton prison at the moment had his house raided up streatham! Yes most of my family is pretty well mixed up with drug dealers. And ive been there also!
That's shit Im sorry about that.
I was gonna say if that was my cuz I'd be fighting to get her out of it or at least into a brothel or something - but I guess it's her choice innit.
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:53
Ohh trust me there aint nothing we aint all tried, at one point i used to hang around with her (doing drugs) didnt do the prostitution wouldnt have wanted to, and nor would she allow me to have!! she tells me shes sold her soul ETC.. Last summer she had a sugar daddy she spent £180,000 of this guys money on crack and heroin and all my south london family loved it, smoking every day ounces each drinking blah blah having a ball!!! she could have had a house with that.. but it was her choice! shes been in mongals nr tulse hill with other workings girls, she was sent away out croydon as she asked to get away from Brixton, well she was out country side to her and she didnt even spend a night out there,
Pickman's model
26-12-2005, 12:56
What prostitution? yeh most prositutes say that, at least i aint robbing ppl or robbing shops im working hard for da money i get is what my cousin always tells me! no matta what ppl say i love my cousin and will protect her and keep her back! she does work fucking hard, and she gets picked up by police she gets fined she gets shoved into prison for 3 weeks then out then in then out blah blahi suggest you listen to the bit at the start of porridge where the judge says that fletcher looks on arrest and imprisonment as an occupational hazard.
sounds like yr cousin looks on them the same way.
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:57
i suggest you listen to the bit at the start of porridge where the judge says that fletcher looks on arrest and imprisonment as an occupational hazard.
sounds like yr cousin looks on them the same way.
Who the hell is porridge?
ViolentPanda
27-12-2005, 15:11
Who the hell is porridge?
TV comedy with Ronnie Barker.
OpalFruit
04-01-2006, 11:14
Manmasi - you could join the Josephine Avenue group (JAG). They have been negotiating with the police and council for better lighting so that kerb crawlers can be sen by the CCTV cameras (duh!). The police have asked residents to give them registration numbers of kerb crawlers and will send them a letter. JAG also raise money from community events and give some proceeds to rehab projects for prostitutes with addiction problems, I think.
Afore it wuz so trendy right
One morning I found 49 used johnnies just in the little space around me front door. I'd been in watching TV, hadn't noticed a thing
Another time, found some guys with his trousers round his ankles, the girls legs round his waist, them fuckin against my door, said I "Ecuse me, I wanna get in me flat"
Looking over his shoulder, girl said "Dont worry love, hes just finishing"
Same all over
"Ecuse me, I wanna get in me flat" Looking over his shoulder, girl said "Dont worry love, hes just finishing"
Oh come now :D
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