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T & P
20-12-2005, 17:08
(I did a search and couldn't find any threads on this- apologies if there is one)

No, don't get excited... not a new transport link coming soon to your neighbourhood sadly... but a 1950s scheme to link Purley, Croydon, Norbury, Streatham, Brixton and Kennington with a new, fast and quiet tramway. (http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/c/croydon_tramlink1950/index.shtml) Taken from the excellent Subterranea Britannica website:

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/sites/c/croydon_tramlink1950/tramlink_subway_brixton.jpg

If only 10% of the transport projects in the last half century involving Brixton had come to be, we'd have the best transport links in Europe... :rolleyes: :D
editor
20-12-2005, 17:13
editor gets really excited... and then..... :(

That looks like a montage of the Kingsway tram tunnel.
Callie
20-12-2005, 17:15
editor gets really excited... and then..... :(




why? did you want to go to Purley? :D
twisted
20-12-2005, 18:27
wowthat would be so cool to have an underpass for cars...just like Croydon :D
William of Walworth
21-12-2005, 09:49
That looks like a montage of the Kingsway tram tunnel.

That's exactly what I thought!

On the website it's described as an "Artist's impression of the tram subway portal on Brixton Hill" -- the artist must be a photomontage artist ....

It's weird that this scheme was being considered as late as 1950 -- the last
tram in London ran in 1951.

<looks at website again>

Evidently not seriously considered ....

Discrepancy explained by the scheme being proposed by the 'Tramway Development Council' and that "In this era of austerity there was simply no money for major new capital investment, whilst the scheme also suffered the handicap of not emanating from London Transport itself".
William of Walworth
21-12-2005, 09:49
wowthat would be so cool to have an underpass for cars...just like Croydon :D

Fot TRAMS dammit!!!! :mad: ;)
Isambard
21-12-2005, 10:03
Íts a great mode as you can combine cheaper on street running (on major roads often on seperate track area) with underground tunnelling where nescessary. Rapidly improved journey times becasue stops are farther apart.

Cologne is a good example of how it could work.
newbie
21-12-2005, 10:14
If only 10% of the transport projects in the last half century involving Brixton had come to be, we'd have the best transport links in Europe... :rolleyes: :D

including a motorway straight through the middle.
editor
21-12-2005, 10:29
including a motorway straight through the middle.Indeed!
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/images/plan.jpg
LDR
21-12-2005, 11:51
why? did you want to go to Purley? :DI used to live in Purley. It looked really nice to me but I saw more fights there then anywhere else I've lived in England. :eek: :eek:
Dan U
25-12-2005, 11:31
Indeed!
http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/images/plan.jpg

someone once told me that estate on the right as you head out of brixton on coldharbour lane (i forget the name, sorry) has no windows facing Coldharbour Lane as that was the proposed route of an extended M23.

it certainly is devoid of windows on that side.

how true it is, i dont know...
toggle
25-12-2005, 11:44
someone once told me that estate on the right as you head out of brixton on coldharbour lane (i forget the name, sorry) has no windows facing Coldharbour Lane as that was the proposed route of an extended M23.

it certainly is devoid of windows on that side.

how true it is, i dont know...


hmmmmmm (http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/barrier1.html)

or

this (http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/barrier.html)
newbie
25-12-2005, 11:44
Barrier block, so called because it was built to shield the noise from the intended mway getting to the estate behind.

tbh that model has never made much sense to me, but notice with interest not only the mway but also all the tower blocks. It's not only transport links that Brixton has been promised but which haven't been delivered.

Beware planners with grand visions.
Principle
26-12-2005, 12:56
Barrier block, so called because it was built to shield the noise from the intended mway getting to the estate behind.

tbh that model has never made much sense to me, but notice with interest not only the mway but also all the tower blocks. It's not only transport links that Brixton has been promised but which haven't been delivered.

Beware planners with grand visions.


the estate just nr the front line just off coldharbour lane from brixton? well theres windows facing coldharbour lane on that estate.
newbie
26-12-2005, 13:41
depends a bit on exactly what you mean by the 'front line' I suppose. :confused:

My understanding of the barrier block is that it was built to shield the Moorlands Estate (behind it and built around the same time) from the noise. The fine houses along Loughborough Road were blighted as part of the scheme, and many were squatted during the 70s. I think there were plans for further estates there.

There's an explanation of the 60s motorway scheme here (http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/ringways/ringway1.shtml) though the barrier block bit refers back to U75.
Dan U
27-12-2005, 17:24
hmmmmmm (http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/barrier1.html)

or

this (http://www.urban75.org/brixton/features/barrier.html)

he was right, hadnt seen that.

ta.