View Full Version : fewer dealers about??
RushcroftRoader
17-12-2005, 15:53
Who thinks the problem of aggressive dealers has got better in the last week or so since the new drugs policy came into force?
Is it just the cold weather or is the new policy having an impact??
Monkeygrinder's Organ
17-12-2005, 15:55
Dunno, I had a bit of grief off one on Atlantic Road the other day but that was more annoying than aggressive.
i think the weather definitely plays its part.
corporate whore
17-12-2005, 18:01
You can't hear the ones outside the Tube over the steel band. Nice. :)
There has been some feedback to the CPCG website (http://www.lambethcpcg.org.uk/38313/39113.html) that this is the case, during the 'working hours' at least.
Principle
17-12-2005, 21:11
Weather, but generally the dealers are more about in the dark, most dealers dont go out to work on road unless its dark, seemingly they "feel safer"
Mrs Magpie
18-12-2005, 12:30
It's just been displaced to just off the beaten track, and I dunno where Principle got the 'only working when dark' idea. Not my experience at all.
Principle
18-12-2005, 18:58
Most dealers i know prefer to be out working last at night ie the dark rather than morning, u are more likely to catch dem at 6am on dere way home! and i got dat from my friends dat r dealers! and from previous experience
Mrs Magpie
18-12-2005, 19:35
Thankfully I move in a widely different social sphere from you, but I'm still running the gauntlet of aggressive daytime street dealers. I can only guess you don't live in central Brixton.
Thankfully I move in a widely different social sphere from you, but I'm still running the gauntlet of aggressive daytime street dealers. I can only guess you don't live in central Brixton.
Couldn't agree more - the agressive day time dealers are still about in central Brixton. Possibly not as many as normal at the mo - not sure whether it's the weather or the No Deal business.
Bit weird today though - they seemed to have moved slightly up the road on Electric Ave from their normal spot. There's been a few more police and Community Safety bods about so I think they've just got wise to it.
By and large I think there are a lot less, which is great to see. However, seems to be only during the day time to me.
Walking up CHL at 6am on Sat morning there were still one or two whistling at me from over the road and there are always some outside KFC too.
Wonder how long it'll last though.
Principle
19-12-2005, 20:21
i stay in central brixton actually just aint out on road during the day much with out reason!
Monkeygrinder's Organ
19-12-2005, 23:10
There seemed to be a roughly average number of them about tonight. None of them gave me any hassle though.
Mrs Miggins
20-12-2005, 10:47
There were plenty outside the KFC last night....
back outside iceland now...
am SICK of getting whistled at like i am a f$%king sheepdog.
cracks me up that there is generally a 'community' police officer standing by the station doing feck all...
is the 3 months up? erm.... no.....
poster342002
05-01-2006, 10:41
back outside iceland now...
am SICK of getting whistled at like i am a f$%king sheepdog.
cracks me up that there is generally a 'community' police officer standing by the station doing feck all...
is the 3 months up? erm.... no.....
I wonder what has happpened to "No Deal" or whatever it's called?
Did anyone else notice the unbelievably polite dealer just outside the tube last night? "Excuse me, Sir/Madam, might I offer you some skunk for sale" I kid you not. I was so gobsmacked I nearly bought some.
memespring
05-01-2006, 11:20
I'd summerise the current situation as:
- Less weed dealers on Brixton High Road, those who remain are generally more sutle, although becoming less so with numbers increasing.
- Crack/heroin dealers and users in Brixton Market and Rushcroft Road have realised that No Deal isn't targeting them and are feeling more secure. As such are taking more liberties (i'd never been trheatened by a crack dealer untill the other week).
Walking up CHL at 6am on Sat morning there were still one or two whistling at me from over the road and there are always some outside KFC too.
You sure that wasn't because of your cute bum?
You sure that wasn't because of your cute bum?
When did you see my cute bum?
Pretty sure it wasn't though.....they didn't look like cruisers to me!
I wonder what has happpened to "No Deal" or whatever it's called?
i emailed the website and asked them just that!
Well I don't know much about Brixton only been there a handful of times, but do peeps really go there to score :confused: I know it has a reputation but I thought that peeps just get ripped off if so why do they keep coming back,
Or am I just being a numpty :D
William of Walworth
05-01-2006, 15:13
Did anyone else notice the unbelievably polite dealer just outside the tube last night? "Excuse me, Sir/Madam, might I offer you some skunk for sale" I kid you not. I was so gobsmacked I nearly bought some.
:D :D :p
(and also :eek: )
memespring
05-01-2006, 15:34
:D :D :p
(and also :eek: )
Thats gentrification for you ;)
Mrs Magpie
05-01-2006, 17:00
Well I don't know much about Brixton only been there a handful of times, but do peeps really go there to scoreYup, I've seen it myself while waiting for friends at the tube or queuing for a bus...people come out of the tube, scout about for a dealer and then head for a venue or go back into the tube. There are also the street addicts who sort out their smack/crack for the day (hour?) and live close to their scoring source. If like me, you are a nondescript middle-aged woman you have a sort of cloak of invisibility and just waiting for a bus you see it all around you all the time.
There was a piece on this evening's PM (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?radio4/pm) programme about this - about 21 mins in (the 'listen again' will only be available until the next programme is broadcast on the 7th at 5pm).
There was a piece on this evening's PM (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?radio4/pm) programme about this - about 21 mins in (the 'listen again' will only be available until the next programme is broadcast on the 7th at 5pm).
V interesting piece. Good to hear from a couple of the traders as well. They have to put up with so much shit from the dealers :mad:
Would have been good to hear more about the problems of crack etc., but as it was to do with the possible reclassification of cannabis I can see why it wasn't included.
Hilarious that the journalist got offered skunk by a dappy dealer who didn't see his microphone :D
If like me, you are a nondescript middle-aged woman you have a sort of cloak of invisibility and just waiting for a bus you see it all around you all the time.
to be fair i think that applies to anyone who waits at those bus stops regularly, particularly the stops by iceland which i use daily.
although i like the sound of your invisibity cloak!
Mrs Magpie
06-01-2006, 16:23
I used you get "What the fuck are you looking at?" when I was younger...I've just noticed the older you get (as a woman, anyway) the more invisible you become....
hungry 4 kicks
06-01-2006, 16:40
Who thinks the problem of aggressive dealers has got better in the last week or so since the new drugs policy came into force?
Is it just the cold weather or is the new policy having an impact??
I used to regularly get 5 draws off one of those Stn dudes - the one that looks like a 40 something cheeky school kid and wears the red lumberjack shirt all the time - we used to chat like old friends:
- How are you?
- I'm alive
He'd say. . .
- then I saw him in brockwell park at one of those weed festivals in 2003 and acknowledged him with a 'hi' and he turned on me with a string of 'blood clating'. . .
And there I was thinking we had some connection -
Ahhh...The naivity of mild weed abuse. . .
Droppin'
10-01-2006, 15:37
I never get propositioned on the streets (even when I ran out once two nights before a party and needed to get some pills and actually went looking). I can only think it is because I walk really fast so either:
1) I just don't hear it
1) They see me moving quickly and think I'm departing pretty quicksmartish from something I've done that I shouldn't (so could have police in tow)
or
3) Think I'm off my head already to be walking that quick
Nor have I been beaten up at a cash machine in Brixton or had my phone nicked
I appreciate I am tempting fate, but thieves, muggers and dealers must avoid me like the plague.
Closest I got was a radical-Islamist chucking religion in my face and getting a little shirty when I said I wasn't interested.
Droppin'
10-01-2006, 15:39
I never get propositioned on the streets (even when I ran out once two nights before a party and needed to get some pills and actually went looking). I can only think it is because I walk really fast so either:
1) I just don't hear it
1) They see me moving quickly and think I'm departing pretty quicksmartish from something I've done that I shouldn't (so could have police in tow)
or
3) Think I'm off my head already to be walking that quick
Nor have I been beaten up at a cash machine in Brixton or had my phone nicked
I appreciate I am tempting fate, but thieves, muggers and dealers must avoid me like the plague.
Closest I got was a radical-Islamist chucking religion in my face and getting a little shirty when I said I wasn't interested.
Actually I've got a friend in the force...maybe I pick up piggy stink?
(even when I ran out once two nights before a party and needed to get some pills and actually went looking).
Good job...You'd have most likely got ripped off anyway.
Weather, but generally the dealers are more about in the dark, most dealers dont go out to work on road unless its dark, seemingly they "feel safer"Maybe things have changed but this is what the 2004 Lambeth Crime Audit says about drug offences:
When are the key times?
All Drug Offences (including Prostitution offences):
• August had the least number of drug offences, and October had the most. There did not seem to be any significant seasonal variation to the drug offences
• Drugs offences peaked between Tuesday and Friday, with over 500 offences being recorded on each of those days over the year. Sunday was significantly lower, with only half the average number of offences for any particular weekday
• The majority of drug offences/ arrests occur later in the day. There were more arrests between 21.00 hours and 22.00 hours (over twice the average number of arrests for any hour period of the day). Less than 1 in 13 offences occur between 04.00 hours and 10.00 hours
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