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Throbbing Angel
13-12-2005, 16:44
Have fun boys & girls
I shall mainly be writing an essay about [tooboringtogointo]
Shit - can't make tomorrow night - working late this week. Sorry...
Well, you didn't want to read the book, so not wanting to make the meeting is entirely in keeping with your current approach to this book club. :p ;)
WOOKS!
clear your PM inbox a bit !!!!
:p :p
farmerbarleymow
14-12-2005, 17:20
Well, you didn't want to read the book, so not wanting to make the meeting is entirely in keeping with your current approach to this book club. :p ;)
Oh well, can't be helped. Can you let me know what book is chosen for next time?
Ta muchly :)
Ouch. That's all I'm saying..... :eek: :rolleyes:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0802140149/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/002-6517834-4132049?%5Fencoding=UTF8&n=283155&s=books
The book!!!
I, Lucifer by Glen Duncan
A comedy, for Farmer..... :)
How's everyone's heads this morning?
*hic*
*passes paracetemol all round*
Just had two paras, and two spliffs. Feeling ready for bed now. Can't work out whether to wash last night out of my hair now or later. Very good night, cheers everyone for just there and being you.
http://astra-bd.tripod.com/adoptions/heartcake.gif
aye top night, the pinacle will be the sight of Fledgling's opening line to 2 tranny's in our search for alcohol post 1am with "S'cuse me ladies" .... priceless!
S'cuse me ladies
Bless him!!
:D :D
Great night. As usual our high minded ideas drowned in a sea of booze.
But thanks for balling up my socks, Wookey.
See those of you who might be passing at the Green Room on Sat. ;)
misskitten
15-12-2005, 21:38
oops, missed it again... are strange strangers really invited?? :p cos despite much piss taking from all my friends i really love the sound of a book club! :D
oops, missed it again... are strange strangers really invited?? :p cos despite much piss taking from all my friends i really love the sound of a book club! :D
That's kind of the point! None of us knew each other before the book club.
Go on. You know ya want to...
But thanks for balling up my socks, Wookey.
Anytime sweetheart!!
*Domestic Goddess*
Fledgling
16-12-2005, 19:04
aye top night, the pinacle will be the sight of Fledgling's opening line to 2 tranny's in our search for alcohol post 1am with "S'cuse me ladies" .... priceless!
! I'm ont sure if they took that as a compliment, really didn't know how to address them so tried to be polite, must have sounded like I was taking the piss.
Good night, thought we did have a good discussion but so much for the new 24 drinking laws, how long did we walk round for?
so much for the new 24 drinking laws, how long did we walk round for?
You ended up in bed with a wookey. How drunk did you want to get??? :eek:
^^^^^
ahahahahahahahahahahah!!!
*clutches head*
Fledgling
18-12-2005, 15:50
You ended up in bed with a wookey. How drunk did you want to get??? :eek:
hehe, you were very good to share with really, didn't move about at all, bet everyone's heads hurt a little, turned up to work v. late but fortunately the bus broke down en route so didn't actually lie about arriving at 1115 instead of 830, just embellished a little.
you were very good to share with really, didn't move about at all
Ahh, blessed is the alcohol stupour.:)
turned up to work v. late but fortunately the bus broke down en route so didn't actually lie about arriving at 1115 instead of 830, just embellished a little.
It's nice when you get a synchronised truth that backs up a lie, you WOULD HAVE been late anyway! Probably. ;) :D
Well, I've read about 20 pages of I, Lucifer, and it rocks! Very camp devil... :cool:
winterinmoscow
01-01-2006, 18:38
How is the book club going? I'm a Manchester Urbanite and woke up to the fact the other day that I know practically no-one on here in person, plus I quite like reading!
Well, then, get reading, winterinmoscow - you're more than welcome to pop along to the next meeting (at the Pevril on the Peak, city centre). The current book is I, Lucifer, by Glen Duncan, it's very funny.
By the way, does anyone remember what date we decided for the next meeting. Or were we all too merry to remember? :mad:
Well, then, get reading, winterinmoscow - you're more than welcome to pop along to the next meeting (at the Pevril on the Peak, city centre). The current book is I, Lucifer, by Glen Duncan, it's very funny.
By the way, does anyone remember what date we decided for the next meeting. Or were we all too merry to remember? :mad:
grrr, I've only just ordered it online! :mad:
... as to the next date *slaps head* we were all too mashed! - think of a number
Fledgling
02-01-2006, 21:26
grrr, I've only just ordered it online! :mad:
... as to the next date *slaps head* we were all too mashed! - think of a number
You're right about the mashedness,I haven't even got the book yet, will have to head over to waterstones tomorrow so can we leave meeting up until at least next week?
BTW happy new yr to all.
You're right about the mashedness,I haven't even got the book yet, will have to head over to waterstones tomorrow so can we leave meeting up until at least next week?
BTW happy new yr to all.
next week! bleeding hell! I was thinking of after pay day so I can afford some booze!
Fledgling
03-01-2006, 22:18
good point there!
It definitely wasn't in the next two weeks cos i remember that I could make it, and I'm abroad til the 19th. Other than that, fuck alone knows. Not much help.
Keep me posted. Hope you're all getting back into the swing of real life.
x
marco mark
04-01-2006, 17:28
OK tell me will u have a meet sometime between the 20th and 11th feb, & is winterinmoscow the book, this just could be the highlight of my (brief) return, after many hollands pies ;)
marc
HNY Fledgling!!
Erm, right - seeing as Mancboy's away, and sorearm is waiting on the book (don't worry, it ain't Rwanda, you'll have it done it NO time) -
- why don't we say Wednesday the 25th like a Martini? :)
Fledgling
05-01-2006, 14:02
Happy new year Wooky!
That sounds like a good date, I haven't actually bought the book yet and have been reading books I got for Christmas, will head off to waterstones pronto. Better go, I'm at work, fortunately the boss can't see my screen but he lurks sometimes! :eek:
missavelanche
05-01-2006, 14:39
HNY Fledgling!!
Erm, right - seeing as Mancboy's away, and sorearm is waiting on the book (don't worry, it ain't Rwanda, you'll have it done it NO time) -
- why don't we say Wednesday the 25th like a Martini? :)
I could make that too... whats the plan??
Fledgling
05-01-2006, 15:03
we should be meeting at Peveril of the Peak on Wednesday 25/01/06 at around 630-7pm. We are reading I lucifer by Glen Duncan. You are more than welcome to join us. :)
misskitten
05-01-2006, 15:32
Sounds like fun!
missavelanche
05-01-2006, 15:38
we should be meeting at Peveril of the Peak on Wednesday 25/01/06 at around 630-7pm. We are reading I lucifer by Glen Duncan. You are more than welcome to join us. :)
where is that? i thought i knew manc fairly well but apparently not! :o
winterinmoscow
05-01-2006, 18:27
where is that? i thought i knew manc fairly well but apparently not! :o
seconded!
winterinmoscow
05-01-2006, 18:28
, & is winterinmoscow the book,
:confused: :rolleyes: :D
(babysitter willing) I am hoping to join you - but will need severe assistance in directions... prob from Victoria Station.....
(or a guide????? :o :o )
FFS I've ordered the book online and its still not been posted out yet!!!!! :mad: :mad:
chriswill
05-01-2006, 23:03
Where is the pevril??
127 Great Bridgewater Street, oppositve Rain bar ....
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=383861&y=397612&z=0&ar=Y
(babysitter willing) I am hoping to join you - but will need severe assistance in directions... prob from Victoria Station.....
(or a guide????? :o :o )
^^^
Where is the pevril??
chriswill
05-01-2006, 23:06
Ahhhh, I know it.
Ta
Can we make it on or after 26th - that's payday - and I'm totally skint after xmas :mad:
we should be meeting at Peveril of the Peak on Wednesday 25/01/06 at around 630-7pm. We are reading I lucifer by Glen Duncan. You are more than welcome to join us. :)
Don't worry, 25th should be OK - I'll wangle some dosh from selling the children/family silver etc
... still waiting for the friggin' book though! :mad: COME ON PLAY.COM!
Hurry up and get the book, mate! I've nearly done, it's a corker. I'm well jealous of some sentences. :D
Yes Sorearm.... couldn't you just (radical suggestion here) walk into a bookshop and purchase it???? :p
Yes Sorearm.... couldn't you just (radical suggestion here) walk into a bookshop and purchase it???? :p
Too late Maddalene...he's waiting on play.com!
he has however threatened to nick my copy! :mad:
marco mark
07-01-2006, 13:33
tut tut, i am reading Middlesex and its ace, if i get to the end ;)
Yes Sorearm.... couldn't you just (radical suggestion here) walk into a bookshop and purchase it???? :p
sod it, I've cancelled my order at play.com, what a bunch of useless monkey's - order has "been placed" for most of this week, stuff it, I'll pop into a real book shop and buy it!
:mad: :mad: :mad: @ on-line ordering
sod it, I've cancelled my order at play.com, what a bunch of useless monkey's - order has "been placed" for most of this week, stuff it, I'll pop into a real book shop and buy it!
:mad: :mad: :mad: @ on-line ordering
You know it makes sense ;)
sod it, I've cancelled my order at play.com
That'll learn ya to trust technology! Heehee!
:D
Fledgling
08-01-2006, 00:51
Yes Sorearm.... couldn't you just (radical suggestion here) walk into a bookshop and purchase it???? :p
hey man get radical,
sorearm is lazy so wouldn't walk into book shop :D
raspberry
really shouldn't post when pissed, oh arsssssssse
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peveril is just off Oxford road, just before Sainsburies. Nr Brigwater Hall.
Well I now have in my hand a prestine copy of the book.
*smug mode* :) :)
to fledge u piiissee heead :p
Fledgling
12-01-2006, 01:06
to fledge u piiissee heead :p
rassssssssssssssssspberry, and I nicked loads of things from your house when I was on the couch. :p
misskitten
15-01-2006, 19:21
I just started reading the book - very sexual, very playful - but what a name-dropper!! :p
I'm not sure whether ill be able to make the actual meet-up - do you discuss the books on-line too?? :)
I'm not sure whether ill be able to make the actual meet-up - do you discuss the books on-line too??
Strangely, we haven't yet. Either we're feckless and can't follow the thread, or we prefer doing it face to face, iyswim. Seeing as you've started the book but can't make the meeting, I think it would be nice if we could try discussing this one online, see if it works??
*Remember guys, 25th Jan 2006 is the next meeting for I, Lucifer*
*Please to have new suggestions for the next tome*
I hope to be there, babysitter permitting..
Can you give me the actual addy of the pub and idea of how near it is to Victoria...
????
Maybe need someone's mobile no a bit nearer the time like as well
misskitten
20-01-2006, 00:03
Strangely, we haven't yet. Either we're feckless and can't follow the thread, or we prefer doing it face to face, iyswim. Seeing as you've started the book but can't make the meeting, I think it would be nice if we could try discussing this one online, see if it works??
*Remember guys, 25th Jan 2006 is the next meeting for I, Lucifer*
*Please to have new suggestions for the next tome*
OK... well, im not sure how bookclub discussions go (!) especially ones of the on-line variety... but
Things I like so far: His bold, damning, fearless style. The colourful and playful nature of the language - it has such a clear unique voice and so many little twists and puns - i love the mixture of lofty intelligence and gutterish crudeness. It was a real surprise when i started reading - not knowing anything about the book before.
Things I dont like so far: A few too many references for me personally - philosophical, mythological, literary, musical and artistic all on the same page!?!... i admit they work really well in some places but cant help thinking they seem like overkill in others (specially when i dont get them :p !). Also, sometimes the 'evil' seems a bit too easy, if you know what i mean. A bit obvious... I wont say which bits cos it might spoil the storyline for anyone who hasnt started.
I havent read all that much yet so these are more like first impressions - they might change as i read on. Its actually the kind of book that makes me want to read bits aloud to my friends - so perfect for a bookclub as you get the chance to share the experience of reading it properly without your housemates thinking you are a sex-crazed, blasphemous weirdo!! :o
Whats everyone else thinking about it so far!?!
Hello!
Is this still on?
Can someone clarify when/ where/ street name of said place. I might be making a pilgrimmage from Leeds
Thanks
Hi Maddalene!
Heres a link (http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/11/1129/Peveril_Of_The_Peak/Castlefield) that shows the address, phone number, maps etc of the venue
Time: 7ish
See you there! :)
Ta!
If you see someone with long brown hair and a long black velvet coat with a pink rose on it ... it's safe to assume it's me
We'll look out for you! :)
Not sure if I can come. My babysitter doesn't seem well and it might not be possible :(
Doesn't look like I'll make this evening either...ah well
Fledgling
25-01-2006, 13:43
I'll be there from just after 7pm.
misskitten
25-01-2006, 14:19
I'll be there from just after 7pm.
Who else is going??
Pretty certain can't come. Keep us posted as to the next book tho!
I'm coming, and Olivia is coming. :cool:
Things I like so far: His bold, damning, fearless style. The colourful and playful nature of the language - it has such a clear unique voice and so many little twists and puns - i love the mixture of lofty intelligence and gutterish crudeness. It was a real surprise when i started reading - not knowing anything about the book before.
I agree, I think the voice is very clear and well-written. I actually suspected that he'd formed the style of the voice first, and then said: Now, who the hell would speak like this...I know! The Devil would!
Probably not how you write a book, but the voice is so spot on it made me wonder which came first.
I also like the fact that Luce (!) can talk street jive one minute, and then refer to Seraphim and archangels the next - the blend works very well.
I liked the fact that the writer has allowed the protagonmist to be fallible - as he's telling the story, he says things like 'Actually, that's not true, I'm lying there whe I say that' type-thing, which adds an uncertainty to proceedings - kinda like you can't trust the person telling the tale (which of course you can't, he be the Devil!)
Things I dont like so far: A few too many references for me personally - philosophical, mythological, literary, musical and artistic all on the same page!?!... i admit they work really well in some places but cant help thinking they seem like overkill in others (specially when i dont get them !). Also, sometimes the 'evil' seems a bit too easy, if you know what i mean. A bit obvious... I wont say which bits cos it might spoil the storyline for anyone who hasnt started.
Luckily, I managed to get most of the references, although I have read similarly diverse books which have gone right over my head, so I know how frustrating it is when the author assumes. Similar to when they shift languages just pour l'effet, you know what I mean!? ;)
As for the evil being easy, I'm not sure what you mean - and here we hit a previously unforeseen problem with online book crit, the dreaded spoiler! I think it would be safe to explain specifically where that bothered you - if people haven't read the book by now they deserve a spoiler or two.
JUST TO ADD: To Sorearm and AnMarie who can't make it, I'd really like to hear what you thought of the book....why not add some thoughts here?!
:cool:
misskitten
25-01-2006, 17:10
I agree, I think the voice is very clear and well-written. I actually suspected that he'd formed the style of the voice first, and then said: Now, who the hell would speak like this...I know! The Devil would!
Probably not how you write a book, but the voice is so spot on it made me wonder which came first.
I also like the fact that Luce (!) can talk street jive one minute, and then refer to Seraphim and archangels the next - the blend works very well.
I liked the fact that the writer has allowed the protagonmist to be fallible - as he's telling the story, he says things like 'Actually, that's not true, I'm lying there whe I say that' type-thing, which adds an uncertainty to proceedings - kinda like you can't trust the person telling the tale (which of course you can't, he be the Devil!)
Luckily, I managed to get most of the references, although I have read similarly diverse books which have gone right over my head, so I know how frustrating it is when the author assumes. Similar to when they shift languages just pour l'effet, you know what I mean!? ;)
As for the evil being easy, I'm not sure what you mean - and here we hit a previously unforeseen problem with online book crit, the dreaded spoiler! I think it would be safe to explain specifically where that bothered you - if people haven't read the book by now they deserve a spoiler or two.
JUST TO ADD: To Sorearm and AnMarie who can't make it, I'd really like to hear what you thought of the book....why not add some thoughts here?!
:cool:
Well, now ive seen this is a real 'talk about books' club I am going to pop along tonight... so will tell you what i mean then!
The references dropped off quite a bit as I read on so i would qualify that first statement - although i am one of those peope who hates not getting things - and there was this philosphical statement that i vaguely remember from uni but didnt understand even then!
Anyway wont say any more cos will see you soon...
Miss K x
Back home - kinda unique book club meet.
Fledge - you are a wally. :rolleyes:
Wooks
xx
...in keeping with the 'slim and readable' tradition of late -
'Veronika Decides to Die' by Paulo Coelho (suggested by shiny new member misskitten :) )
Amazon link here... (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060955775/103-7863536-0182231?v=glance&n=283155)
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/library/images/veronika_decides_to_die.jpg
Reading Group Guide here: (http://www.readinggroupguides.com/guides/veronika_decides_to_die.asp) In his brilliant novel about the aftermath of a young woman's suicide attempt, Paulo Coelho explores three perennial themes: conformity, madness, and death. Twenty-four-year-old Veronika lives in Slovenia, one of the republics created by the dissolution of Yugoslavia. She works as a librarian by day, and by night carries on like many single women ‹ dating men, occasionally sleeping with them, and returning to a single room she rents at a convent. It is a life, but not a very compelling one. So one day, Veronika decides to end it. Her failed attempt, and her inexplicable reasons for wanting to die, land her in a mental hospital, Vilette.
Veronika's disappointment at having survived sucide is palpable. She imagines the rest of her life filled with disillusionment and monotomy, and vows not to leave Vilette alive. Much to her surprise, however, she learns that a fate she desires awaits her anyway: She is destined to die within a week's time, of a heart damage caused by her suicide attempt. Gradually, this knowledge changes Veronika's perception of death and life.
In the meantime, Vilette's head psychiatrist attempts a fascinating but provocative experiment. Can you "shock" someone into wanting to live by convincing her that death is imminent? Like a doctor applying defibrillator paddles to a heart attack victim, Dr. Igor's "prognosis" jump-starts Veronika's new appreciation of the world around her. From within Vilette's controlled environment, she finally allows herself to express the emotions she has never allowed herself to feel: hate and love, anger and joy, disgust and pleasure. Veronika also finds herself being drawn into the lives of other patients who lead constrained but oddly satisfying lives. Eduard, Zedka, and Mari have been sent to Vilette because there doesn't seem to be any other place for them. Their families don't understand them, and they can't adjust to the social structure that doesn't tolerate their individuality. Each of these patients reflects on Veronika's situation in his or her own flash of epiphany, exposing new desire and fresh vision for life that lies outside the asylum's walls.
Vilette is an asylum in the purest sense of the word: a place of protection, where one is shielded from danger. In this case the danger is society. Those who refuse to accept society's rules have two choices: succumb to the majority's perception that they are mad, or struggle against that majority and try to find their own way in the world.
The protective walls of Vilette are liberating to its patients, allowing them to explore their "madness" without criticism or harm. What they discover is both natural and startling. A novel that starts out as contemplation on the expression of conformity and madness, turns into a dazzling exploration of the unconscious choices we make each day between living and dying, despair and liberation.
Before I forget, the next meet is Feb 23rd (a wednesday). :cool:
er ok.... can't say I'm overly enthralled by the topic of the book (for personal reasons), but I'll give it a go!
Apologies for not making it last night, had domestic things going on that were unescapable.
Hope to meet you next time misskitten!
BTW, fledgling is leaving our wintery shores in about 3 weeks to go down under for a whole year!!!! I think it will be a brill idea to have a bit old knees up one sat night before then, what do peeps think?
er ok.... can't say I'm overly enthralled by the topic of the book (for personal reasons), but I'll give it a go!
It was mentioned that it might go the way of Rwanda for some readers, but Misskitten assured us it's a very positive, life-affirming book....
I'm up for some drinkies with Fledgers, if he can see his way to finding us in the pub that is... :D
misskitten
27-01-2006, 18:13
Oh dear...
Wooks i wish i had been sensible and left when you did... 5 hours later i was still drinking - and jumping round a dancefloor to brazilian beats! - was left feeling like CRAP the next morning when i had to leave for london...
my poor poor head! :(
was great to meet you tho, and dru says hello to you, lea and luke :rolleyes: . and i think it was good for jane too, even tho it wasnt quite for book related reasons she was there!!
sorearm, please give veronika decides to die a chance - it is less about death/suicide, more about life, society, madness, and happiness.
and fledgling, what happened?? i thought you were going to be the one to help me find everyone!?! :p
Fledgling
27-01-2006, 20:13
er ok.... can't say I'm overly enthralled by the topic of the book (for personal reasons), but I'll give it a go!
Apologies for not making it last night, had domestic things going on that were unescapable.
Hope to meet you next time misskitten!
BTW, fledgling is leaving our wintery shores in about 3 weeks to go down under for a whole year!!!! I think it will be a brill idea to have a bit old knees up one sat night before then, what do peeps think?
Yeah, only 3 weeks and 2 days to go until I fly the nest and a little celebratory shindig (or possibly a really big pissed shindig) gets a definite yes from me. I think I'll put up a thread in Northern Forum for that.
Fledgling
27-01-2006, 20:17
It was mentioned that it might go the way of Rwanda for some readers, but Misskitten assured us it's a very positive, life-affirming book....
I'm up for some drinkies with Fledgers, if he can see his way to finding us in the pub that is... :D
:mad: :mad: I went in a and looked around about 730, can't beleive I didn't look round the corner. Missed by sodding train too and spent an hour in Piccadilly when I could have been in the Peveril. Bah
Still, drinks wil be flowing soon, watch this space, although it might help if someone met me and walked me to the place we meet up, or you could buy me a late Christmas present of walkie talkies!
Fledgling
27-01-2006, 20:21
Oh dear...
and fledgling, what happened?? i thought you were going to be the one to help me find everyone!?! :p
Yeah that was me until I became stupid this is twice that I've not found people who are there. Anyway I would've confused you as this was the one time I didn't have a suit on which I'd advertised as my "spot fledge" motiv. Still I did enjoy the book and will announce some meet-up date.
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/library/images/veronika_decides_to_die.jpg
Finished it
Finished it
:mad: :mad: :mad:
not even friggin' started it!
:rolleyes:
Soz thats what comes of being a hermit for a few days :o
Finished it
Hahah! Bloody hell! I'm doing a Sorearm and waiting on an order. Should catch up though, it ain't long is it?
Fledgling - walkie talkies? I'll be getting you binoculars, boy?!
Anyone heard from Mancboy? Is he outta the country?
:confused:
Wooks doya want to cancel the order and have my copy?
It's olivia who ordered mine, so I'll ask her tonight if she can cancel the order!
:)
It's olivia who ordered mine, so I'll ask her tonight if she can cancel the order!
:)
hope it wasn't from play.com, they've been friggin' crap at ordering things recently *ho hum*
Throbbing Angel
31-01-2006, 23:26
right,
I've been into the Uni library tonight and asked them to get me this book from another campus library - it'll take about a week and then I should make my debut at the infamous U75MancBookClub
:)
I have returned. I was snatched away with nary a chance to say goodbye.
Sorry for my non-show. Won't happen again. I'll try and make a drink with Fledgling this weekend before heading south again for a few days.
Will get to work on the next book soon as.
Before I forget, the next meet is Feb 23rd (a wednesday). :cool:
The wednesday is Feb 22nd...
Just checked the dates as the bf and I are occupied watching some welsh rappers on the thursday! :cool:
http://www.scuffgear.co.uk/uploads/images_products/310.jpg
misskitten
10-02-2006, 14:21
Bollocks... after helping choose the date, and the book, i have only just realised i double booked and its the night of Beth Orton!!! :o :eek: :(
Sorry!! Really wanted to meet up with you all again too!
Miss ridiculously badly organised social misfit Kitten xxx
Well I've got the book now, although I haven't started reading it yet.
Can I ask a few q's about t'other book and what people thought of it specifically the ending (I Lucifer that is)
I did really enjoy the style of the book but toward the end I was getting a bit aggrieved at the lack of action, and tbh really confused about all the theology and just what the hell did happen in the end. This might be cos people were talking while I was reading it on the train last week and a lot of it failed to seep in and maybe I need to re-read it a bit more slowly.
So, what I would say, 8/10 for style and idea, but 4/10 for sustainability of plot and interest.
What did the rest of you think???
http://www.scuffgear.co.uk/uploads/images_products/310.jpg
shame on you
ps bumped into fledgling yesterday on the street. was good to see him pre-flight.
Any of you bookish types fancy a drink tomorrow (Weds) I'll be in Trof in Fallowfield, playing some music in the evening.
farmerbarleymow
14-02-2006, 17:38
Any of you bookish types fancy a drink tomorrow (Weds) I'll be in Trof in Fallowfield, playing some music in the evening.
Sorry, not out playing for a while. Have a nice time though :)
does anyone want to discuss the I Lucifer book? :(
Any of you bookish types fancy a drink tomorrow (Weds) I'll be in Trof in Fallowfield, playing some music in the evening.
sounds good matey, me and annmarie are up for it, what time you playing?
sounds good matey, me and annmarie are up for it, what time you playing?
Just Pm'med you details n stuff. playing 9ish. See ya there
x
does anyone want to discuss the I Lucifer book? :(
Sorry Mads!
I will come back with something erudite and witty as soon as I can spare 5 minutes to write a response.
My problem is that I Lucifer is now four books ago to me, and I have a very rosy view of it and how much I liked it. If we're gonna be serious I'm gonna have to cast my mind back and give it some thought! ;)
Guys, I've had a few emails from more than two members who can't make this Wednesday for the happy suicide book, so I'm gonna suggest we postpone the meet for a couple of weeks. This will give everyone chance to catch up, and make space for your literary health.
So, sorry to anyone who could have made it, but now can't - I really hope you can still make the next meet, where I'm sure you'll agree a stronger contingent makes for a better debate.
At a members suggestion, I'm saying a couple of weeks from now, Wednesday 8th March 2006, usual place.
God, I feel like Head Boy again.
Everyone loud and clear on the change etc?
Shall I make a poster?? :D
At a members suggestion, I'm saying a couple of weeks from now, Wednesday 8th March 2006, usual place.
Sounds good to me ;)
Sounds good to me
And which 'You' are 'You'??
:D :D
Oh fuck. I'm in London that week my dears. Fucking London.
But FOR FUCK'S SAKE don't even try and think about changing plans again. I'll read the book, participate in any discussion on here, and hopefully see some of you offline soon in any case.
Well. That was sweary. But I feel sweary today. Fucking London.
Lucking Fundon. :rolleyes:
farmerbarleymow
21-02-2006, 13:19
God, I feel like Head Boy again.
You were head boy?
Good god, no wonder the education is in such a mess :p :D
You were head boy?
Good god, no wonder the education is in such a mess :p :D
They only gave it to me because I frightened all the other kids. :(
Throbbing Angel
21-02-2006, 14:58
and me
bloody Uni hasn't managed to find me the book yet :rolleyes:
And which 'You' are 'You'??
Me of course!! :mad: :p
Well. That was sweary. But I feel sweary today. Fucking London.
:eek:
Fucking London huh, that really sucks... :(
Look forward to chatting with u about this book, it's really pushed some unusual buttons for me!
Olivia read it last night in about four hours, and said it's amazing. She said it was 'unputdownable' to which I replied You sound like the Daily Mail, and she shut up.
misskitten
22-02-2006, 19:10
Olivia read it last night in about four hours, and said it's amazing. She said it was 'unputdownable' to which I replied You sound like the Daily Mail, and she shut up.
:D :D i thought so too.
cannot make changed meet either cos leaving for travels on 3rd... but would like to discuss on-line...
Have you had this meeting yet?
Finished the book and rushed out and bought two more by the same author.
Well done whoever suggested this book???
Hi Manc book club. Thought that this might interest you. Everybody welcome!
The Radical Theory Forum invites you to join a happening/gathering/event on:
THE BOOK IN THEORY AND PRACTICE:
WRITING, READING, AND RADICAL POLITICS
The ‘book’ is synonym for thought and theory – but written words have also inspired action and activism. Books have been banned and burned – and sometimes used as doorstoppers.
A book is never about something – it is always of something. It is part of this spectacle that we call our reality – it is a product of its own object. Then can a book inform action – or does action inform books?
So should we read/write or act? Can theory save the world? Maybe the best use for books is as kindling for bonfires…
The Radical Theory Forum
The Radical Theory Forum is neither theory nor practice. It lies at the intersection of a philosophy lecture and a direct action – some sort of ‘Reclaim The Streets’ party of ideas. It investigates the possibilities of ‘life despite capitalism’.
Capitalist logic informs the management of schools and universities; its ideology hijacks the classroom.
Activist spaces, social centers and squats – on the other hand – are hidden away in out-of-town warehouses or inner-city basements.
The Radical Theory Forum aims to escape both those limitations. It is an experiment in face-to-face informal exchange in spaces that are neither academic nor activist, but that can be transformed – if only for a short moment – into hotspots of radical ideas, revolutionary dreams and experiences of resistance.
ThURSDAY, March 9th
5:00 PM
Waterstone’s Bookstore
(Deansgate)
The business Room, 2nd floor
Have you had this meeting yet?
Finished the book and rushed out and bought two more by the same author.
Well done whoever suggested this book???
No Madds, not yet - it's this Wednesday coming!
I'm half-way through, but I'll finish it tonight. Think you'll make this one? I know we're all flimsy reprobates online but we do actually get some book talk done irl!
It was Kitten's suggestion, and a good one too. Although there might be mixed reactions at book club (he said with his insider knowledge...).
Hi Manc book club. Thought that this might interest you. Everybody welcome!
The Radical Theory Forum invites you to join a happening/gathering/event on:
THE BOOK IN THEORY AND PRACTICE:
WRITING, READING, AND RADICAL POLITICS
The ‘book’ is synonym for thought and theory – but written words have also inspired action and activism. Books have been banned and burned – and sometimes used as doorstoppers.
A book is never about something – it is always of something. It is part of this spectacle that we call our reality – it is a product of its own object. Then can a book inform action – or does action inform books?
So should we read/write or act? Can theory save the world? Maybe the best use for books is as kindling for bonfires…
The Radical Theory Forum
The Radical Theory Forum is neither theory nor practice. It lies at the intersection of a philosophy lecture and a direct action – some sort of ‘Reclaim The Streets’ party of ideas. It investigates the possibilities of ‘life despite capitalism’.
Capitalist logic informs the management of schools and universities; its ideology hijacks the classroom.
Activist spaces, social centers and squats – on the other hand – are hidden away in out-of-town warehouses or inner-city basements.
The Radical Theory Forum aims to escape both those limitations. It is an experiment in face-to-face informal exchange in spaces that are neither academic nor activist, but that can be transformed – if only for a short moment – into hotspots of radical ideas, revolutionary dreams and experiences of resistance.
ThURSDAY, March 9th
5:00 PM
Waterstone’s Bookstore
(Deansgate)
The business Room, 2nd floor
Gosh! :eek:
I mean: Eek! :eek:
Spammed by another book club!
It's a take-over by the theorists!
All literarists unite!!!
Grrrrr.
:mad:
(I've never felt so proud: spammed by another book club. Wow. :cool: )
Grrrr. :mad:
Have you had this meeting yet?
Finished the book and rushed out and bought two more by the same author.
Well done whoever suggested this book???
I dunno I'd like to but I don't have a babysitter atm and I don't know if my poor sister wants to be/ is able to be lumbered with my kids after a day at college.
This does appear to be at the top of Google for "Manc book club" :D
Go Book Club!
Go Book Club!
Go Book Club!
:D
Go Book Club!
Go Book Club!
Go Book Club!
:D
I'd just like to echo the sentiments posted above.
As I toil in my capital shithole. For another bastard week.
We might have two new members soon ;)
As I toil in my capital shithole. For another bastard week.
Just heading off to the public house they call - The Pev.
We shall keep a pint at an empty chair for you, and we shall turn intermittently to the chair for your spiritual input from afar, as you toil in that godforesaken cess-pit of loons and nonces which is Londinium.
We might have two new members soon
Whom would they be, Chio?
misskitten
09-03-2006, 13:11
Have you had this meeting yet?
Finished the book and rushed out and bought two more by the same author.
Well done whoever suggested this book???
:D phew! im really glad you liked it!! i thought it was amazing too tho you never know how different people will react and i know for some it might be a sensitive subject... was the zahir one of your choices? thats the last one i read of his, and it struck a chord too.
wish id been there to discuss - let me know what book you do next and ill get it from here (bangkok) - and join in on-line.
bye! xx
Well, last night's meet went well!
I did like the book, I liked the theories behind it, the Vitriol idea, the being true to yourself, allowing yourself to be a 'little madder'.
That said, I didn't think the characters rang true, they lacked detail for me - and also, the translation was dreadful. In places it sounded really stitled and over-informal - it made me wanna learn Portugese so I could read it in the original.
I would defo read a Cuelo book again - in fact, I'm gonna buy The Alchemist, and see what all the fuss is about.
Oh, and none of us liked the second chapter, we're Paulo speaks as himself and tells you the background to how he came to write the story. I found that stuck out like a sore thumb, and added nothing.
(During the meeting he was even accused of not reading back what he'd written! Which is probably a bit too harsh.)
Overall, the book got mixed reactions - probably the most mixed reaction of any book we've done so far. Which says something I'm sure!
NEXT BOOK: Suggested by new member Jessica:
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The Rum Diary, by Hunter S Thompson.
Also, we all came to the conclusion last night that we quite fancy doing a classic next, like a Dostoevsky, or a Dickens, or a Bronte. So get your thinking caps on for the next meet, and we'll tackle one of the big boys!!!
Throbbing Angel
09-03-2006, 19:35
ah, The Rum Diary is a damn good choice y'know
and.....MMU library still have not managed to loacte for me the ONE copy of Veronika wants to dies, 6 weeks is it :rolleyes:
glad you had fun, good choice by Jessica too
Do persevere and get Veronika, TA, I think you'll like it.
I've started The Rum Diary and there's no hanging about - straight on with the action, and would you believe booze makes an early appearance. :D
Well, last night's meet went well!
I did like the book, I liked the theories behind it, the Vitriol idea, the being true to yourself, allowing yourself to be a 'little madder'.
That said, I didn't think the characters rang true, they lacked detail for me - and also, the translation was dreadful. In places it sounded really stitled and over-informal - it made me wanna learn Portugese so I could read it in the original.
I would defo read a Cuelo book again - in fact, I'm gonna buy The Alchemist, and see what all the fuss is about.
Oh, and none of us liked the second chapter, we're Paulo speaks as himself and tells you the background to how he came to write the story. I found that stuck out like a sore thumb, and added nothing.
(During the meeting he was even accused of not reading back what he'd written! Which is probably a bit too harsh.)
Overall, the book got mixed reactions - probably the most mixed reaction of any book we've done so far. Which says something I'm sure!
NEXT BOOK: Suggested by new member Jessica:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0684856476.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
The Rum Diary, by Hunter S Thompson.
Also, we all came to the conclusion last night that we quite fancy doing a classic next, like a Dostoevsky, or a Dickens, or a Bronte. So get your thinking caps on for the next meet, and we'll tackle one of the big boys!!!
ooer will get. Have bought 'the alchemist' haven't read yet.
Agree with you about the translation - 'would you like to be masturbated' stands out in my mind.
misskitten
10-03-2006, 05:57
ooer will get. Have bought 'the alchemist' haven't read yet.
the alchemist - in a similar way sidartha (herman hesse) if ive spelt it right - is amazing i thought. they are written in a deceptively simple style and both on the journey/discovery theme - both well worth a read, if you like one try the other!
with veronika decides to die - i agree with not liking the bit where he comes into the text. i like the idea but it didnt work for me. and yeah the translation didnt always sound quite right... i found the madness/femininity/social constraints element was most powerful, and the argument about life/death. its so cooly rational an idea when you think about it in those terms, and that is scary.
i have read the rum diary already - but would be keen to read something new for the next choice - so someone pick one soon!
miss k x
Fledgling
10-03-2006, 07:47
G'day cobbers, see the book club's going well!
Definitely will try and participate online with the Rum Diary, although not as good as real meet ups.
Phew, hot here, loads of Australian fiction in the bookshops, they have lots of stuff you can't buy in Waterstones. Didn't read the last bookclub book but will try and get hold of this one.
Hope ur all doing well! :D
p.s. mancboy, have started Birdman, should be good.
Hiya Fledge! How's it going? Manc is freezing its knackers off, but the Pevril remains an oasis of warmth. :D
i have read the rum diary already - but would be keen to read something new for the next choice - so someone pick one soon!
Well, we all said we were keen to do a classic, so lets take nominations online from bookclub members. A classic will take longer to read than the last couple of books, so an early warning would be good for me too (Diary won't take me a few days to read...)
SO: What shall it be? We can take one idea each and vote on which we'd prefer in rounds, until we boil it down to one title. Thinking caps on.
*scans shelves*
Definitely will try and participate online with the Rum Diary, although not as good as real meet ups.
Not only are we first on a Google search, but we now span two hemispheres. :cool: :D
What is the Rum Diary all about? Should I rush out and buy it now??
It's about a hard-drinking journalist and his bizarre scrapes in a strange land. I did not write it.
misskitten
12-03-2006, 16:07
Well, we all said we were keen to do a classic, so lets take nominations online from bookclub members. A classic will take longer to read than the last couple of books, so an early warning would be good for me too (Diary won't take me a few days to read...)
SO: What shall it be? We can take one idea each and vote on which we'd prefer in rounds, until we boil it down to one title. Thinking caps on.
*scans shelves*
early warning a good idea if its a classic! i can read it on the beach while i, erm, work hard in australia...
i dont want to recommend anything ive read before, so will ask around and see if anyone i know has a favourite.
a friend recently said crime and punishment was a must-read classic, and i havent, but im guessing lots of you will have already??
early warning a good idea if its a classic! i can read it on the beach while i, erm, work hard in australia...
i dont want to recommend anything ive read before, so will ask around and see if anyone i know has a favourite.
a friend recently said crime and punishment was a must-read classic, and i havent, but im guessing lots of you will have already??
A vote against crime and punishment, I tried to read it and it is just very very very dull and bleak, and long. I couldn't even manage to watch the BBC adaption when it was on tv a few years ago.
How's about a vote for a modern classic - Catcher in the Rye?
I did try C+P, and managed about 30 pages before I realised life was too short. I think we'd be biting off more than we can chew, tbh - although a big classic like that is what I had in mind. Maybe just not so long!
If people want it, then we'll go for it, obviously. I'm only sounding a warning.
As for Catcher in the Rye, it's a brilliant book, wouldn't mind reading it again - but aren't we thinking more pre-war for a classic, or even last century?
*btw, I told a certaion someone we were doing Hunter S Thompson, and he said he had no idea we were an A-level book-club.
:eek: :mad:
misskitten
13-03-2006, 11:45
I did try C+P, and managed about 30 pages before I realised life was too short. I think we'd be biting off more than we can chew, tbh - although a big classic like that is what I had in mind. Maybe just not so long!
If people want it, then we'll go for it, obviously. I'm only sounding a warning.
As for Catcher in the Rye, it's a brilliant book, wouldn't mind reading it again - but aren't we thinking more pre-war for a classic, or even last century?
*btw, I told a certaion someone we were doing Hunter S Thompson, and he said he had no idea we were an A-level book-club.
:eek: :mad:
:D fair enough!!! (C&P i mean, not the a pretentious a level comment, although saying that i read some amazing stuff at a level, like conrads heart of darkness...)
I have already read Catcher in the Rye and think most people will have? Although i agree its a good one to discuss as its great and has quite a few debate-worthy areas.
To be selfish :o i would prefer to have something new to read, and i agree wooks something older would make for a better mix of books so far...
(of course, not that i'd mind too much if its something brand new and ive read a hundred times, as long as there's a pint and some debates involved im happy :) )
misskitten
13-03-2006, 11:53
A vote against crime and punishment, I tried to read it and it is just very very very dull and bleak, and long. I couldn't even manage to watch the BBC adaption when it was on tv a few years ago.
i think its conclusive - not the next choice of book then!!
dull, bleak and long arent the most enticing of adjectives! :D
Catcher In The Rye = great book. Sadly it looks like most of us have already read it. (We did it for GCSE English, twas the best thing we read at school).
Fledgling
15-03-2006, 03:07
Well, in terms of classics I"ll suggest a few that I've never read but would like to try.
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell.
Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy
Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher-Stowe
Definitely like the idea of reading a classic, plus they're easier to come by here than some of the modern writing around. I did enjoy reading the Line of Beauty and I Lucifer but the bookclub would benefit from expanding in range (also I hope it expands in terms of members both present and online).
All the books above are quite long but then most classics are. But the last two are about 650 pages I think, so not too bad if we have enough time. Besides, a longer book is only 200 pages more than a short book, heck I've just been through 300 pages of Kafka's labyrinth of a novel The Castle so a longer book that flows would be welcome.
It sodding rained last night and it's grey today, just like home.
Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy
Ooo, I was gonna say the Mayor of Casterbridge because I loved that book - but then I have read it. I think Madding Crowds a good suggestion.
I'm thinking hard - Liv suggested a Shakey, but I cannot be fagged tbh.
I might come back with a Dickens....erm....
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Not fucking Hardy..we had to read Far From The Madding Crowd for A level. I also had to read Harriet Beecher Stowe at college. If we want a 'period' piece perhaps we should just do bloody Chaucer! Ha! Then we can all suffer!
Serious suggestion: Flann O Brien. Much more fun.
btw: no offence. I never show up at meets so choose what you like.
OK, I have my suggestion.
E.M Forster's Room With A View.
There. Cast me down if you want, but that's my suggestion!
:)
Get your suggestions in and we'll go for a vote online.
Bump.
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I'm so loving The Rum Diary - and it's only page 39!!!!
Forgot about the hilarious style of writing of Hunter S, how he can just cram all sorts of imagery and feeling (?fear and loathing) into just 1 sentence....
Lord of the Rings :)
Lord of the fucking rings.
Is she having a giraffe??
Lord o the rings.
Lord of the fuckin'...
AnMarie, I'm not being funny, but you are wasting a very valuable intellect on overblown fantasy fairy-tales. Not even folk-tales, but fairy-tales. I'm....well....I'm kinda disappointed in a way....I was.....I dunno.... hoping for more?
But Lord of The Rings, if that's your suggestion, then I'll put it down.
Lord of the Rings.
I'm just....speechless.
:eek: :(
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I'm so loving The Rum Diary - and it's only page 39!!!!
Forgot about the hilarious style of writing of Hunter S, how he can just cram all sorts of imagery and feeling (?fear and loathing) into just 1 sentence....
Can I just say, I'm loving it too. I'm even reading it slowly to spread out the enjoyment, how Catholic is that?
It's so vivid, and reminds me on so many levels of the young man's prerogative, to adventure, to drink, to carouse, to shout and kick and not pay the bill.
Perverse, but brilliant. Would that I could write with such immmediacy.
Lord of the fucking rings.
Is she having a giraffe??
Lord o the rings.
Lord of the fuckin'...
AnMarie, I'm not being funny, but you are wasting a very valuable intellect on overblown fantasy fairy-tales. Not even folk-tales, but fairy-tales. I'm....well....I'm kinda disappointed in a way....I was.....I dunno.... hoping for more?
But Lord of The Rings, if that's your suggestion, then I'll put it down.
Lord of the Rings.
I'm just....speechless.
:eek: :(
*dunks Wooks in boiling oil n feeds him to the Orcs*
fuck me...I just read u had a very valuable intellect lol
:p
*giggles*
I was just being charming to sweeten the pill.
:cool:
p.s. mancboy, have started Birdman, should be good.
Prepare to feel revolted, cheated, and utterly lose your faith in the motives of those around you.
But then, you are in Australia.
x
And as for a classic...
The Brothers Karamazov.
It's bloody brilliant, even if you don't believe in God. Or Russia. Or snow. Or horses. Or love. Or vileness. Or honour.
And as for a classic...
The Brothers Karamazov.
It's bloody brilliant, even if you don't believe in God. Or Russia. Or snow. Or horses. Or love. Or vileness. Or honour.
all his works are class - C+P whilst a wee bit too long for a book club does plumb the human condition to its very soul .... a right riveting read IMHO!
Did we say Wednesday the 19th for the next book club, or was the 12th? I can't remember too well. :o
Fledgling
21-03-2006, 21:39
So which book are we reading then?
We haven't decided. Let's give it another 48 hours for suggestions, then we'll take a show of cyber hands.
Have you suggested one Fledge?
So far we have:
The Brothers Karamazov
Lord of The Rings
Room with a View
Flann O Brien (Maddalene's gonna have to sell that one to us, I've never heard of it :o )
Ah, and three from Fledge, which is greedy but then he is quite far away.
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell.
Far from the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy
Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher-Stowe
Any more, before I ding the bell and start wiping the bar?
Fledgling
23-03-2006, 04:50
I vote Brothers Karamazov
My second preference is Ragged Trouser Philanphropists but it should have the acronym RTP becuase spelling it confuses me.
A Tale of Two Cities by Charlie McDickens (from Olivia)
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell.
The Brothers Karamazov by some geeze called Freddie Dostoevsky.
Room with a View by Emily Melinda Forster
Flann O'Brien - the Joyce influenced Dublin novelist, novel to be suggested by Maddeline.
Lord of The Rings by Peter Jackson
Catcher in the Rye by Mark Chapman
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW PLEASE
THE RUSSIAN ONE HAS THREE VOTES ALREADY
BARE THIS IN MIND AND VOTE TACTICALLY UNLESS YOU LIKE HORSES, SNOW and HORSES IN SNOW.
24 hours, and I'll count the votes.
The polls are OPEN! :cool:
I vote for Room With A View, and no, not because it has a fillum version!
:D
Olivia votes remotely for Dickens.
You know the Russian one's getting in. ;)
Right people you know you want to read this book
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Don't take my word for it check out the description here http://www.centerforbookculture.org/dalkey/backlist/obrien.html#policeman
Dickens would be great, as would the ragged trouser philanthropists - I'd go for the ragged trousers in the event of a dead heat
as to Freddie Dostoevsky ( :D ), there is NO way I think I could finish some of D's books in time!!!! Crime and Punishment took me months as it was!
..... btw, Rum Diaries is FANTASTIC, I'm so loving this book!
Cribynkle
29-03-2006, 18:21
I take it the vote's finished then - I'd be up for the next meeting though. Have I got it right, it's the Rum Diaries in April? And then probably the Russian one after? Cheers
Yeah what book are we meant to be reading? And when is the meeting meant to be?
questions questions I know!
Note:
The russian one is over 800 pages long :eek:
*slaps head*
seems we're all at 6's and 7's!
:D
Fledgling
30-03-2006, 23:00
Actually I wouldn't mind reading Ragged Trouser Philanthropists so I'll side with sorearm on that on e. Sorry for changing my mind but Freddie is not arousing uch support among peeps. I want everyone to be keen on what we're reading because a classic is long. Wookey I reckon you should call it for one book so we can go read.
I so don't wanna be an autocrat, but someone needs to be. :o
Ragged Trousered Philanthropist it is then, now you've all settled ya minds. Liv and Jo+Jess didn't fancy the Russian one, so I'll plump on their behalf.
Right, off we go with that.
Next meeting: How about Wednesday the 12th of April? 6.30pm at the Pevril, to discuss the Rum Diary (hold sorearm back).
Is this approved by the masses?
:)
Oh shit are we talking about the book we're meant to be reading AFTER the rum dairies, I thought we meant instead of..!
Heck this means I've gotta get hold of it AND read it by next week - assuming I actually make it over the hills this time.
Oh shit are we talking about the book we're meant to be reading AFTER the rum dairies, I thought we meant instead of..!
Heck this means I've gotta get hold of it AND read it by next week - assuming I actually make it over the hills this time.
dont you worry lass,me n annmarie will glady discuss the rum diary, i for one am finding it a TOTAL loon. It's great, the phraseology is brillinant (yes I am quite pissed!)
*thumbs pages*
:mad:
Well persanlly,I disagree.I think its well lame.
Fledgling
02-04-2006, 07:26
I so don't wanna be an autocrat, but someone needs to be. :o
Ragged Trousered Philanthropist it is then, now you've all settled ya minds. Liv and Jo+Jess didn't fancy the Russian one, so I'll plump on their behalf.
Right, off we go with that.
Next meeting: How about Wednesday the 12th of April? 6.30pm at the Pevril, to discuss the Rum Diary (hold sorearm back).
Is this approved by the masses?
:)
Dictator!
You're quite strict sometimes. :D
I'll start reading Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, I really think this will be a good book which everyone will be able to enjoy.
Jambooboo
02-04-2006, 12:35
A Tale of Two Cities by Charlie McDickens (from Olivia)
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell.
The Brothers Karamazov by some geeze called Freddie Dostoevsky.
Room with a View by Emily Melinda Forster
Flann O'Brien - the Joyce influenced Dublin novelist, novel to be suggested by Maddeline.
Lord of The Rings by Peter Jackson
Catcher in the Rye by Mark Chapman
PLACE YOUR BETS NOW PLEASE
THE RUSSIAN ONE HAS THREE VOTES ALREADY
BARE THIS IN MIND AND VOTE TACTICALLY UNLESS YOU LIKE HORSES, SNOW and HORSES IN SNOW.
24 hours, and I'll count the votes.
The polls are OPEN! :cool:
So the guy that supposedly killed Lennon wrote Catcher In The Rye?
I always thought it was JD Salinger!
:p
misskitten
02-04-2006, 15:14
Dictator!
You're quite strict sometimes. :D
I'll start reading Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, I really think this will be a good book which everyone will be able to enjoy.
OK, im going to get RTP next then - ill be back in may so should be able to come along (i would like to say nice and tanned, but as it turns out ive been burnt, bitten and bruised and am a mess, i think england agrees with me better :( ). doing any better fledgling?
oh and im reading margaret atwoods the blind assassin at the moment and really enjoying it - has anyone else read it?
Is it any good? I gave up with her books a while ago as I thought they were getting a bit 'samey'.
The Robber Bride, The Handmaid's Tale and Alias Grace were all good though.
I've not read The Blind Assassin, but Atwood is phenomenal, I love her stuff.
Mads, sorry about the confusion! We're all reading Rum Diary at the mo, for the next meeting on the 12th, but we also have the Classic Edition bookclub the months after, where we're talking about the Ragged Trousered Whatsitchops. :)
Fledgling - I can be quite strict yes! I think it's from my days teaching. Now get on with your work! :mad: :D
misskitten
05-04-2006, 08:32
Is it any good? I gave up with her books a while ago as I thought they were getting a bit 'samey'.
The Robber Bride, The Handmaid's Tale and Alias Grace were all good though.
yeah i loved it - i really wanted to know all the answers where she left hints and questions - and liked the multiple stories within stories.
it wasnt samey for me cos its so long since ive read her stuff - years :o !
but then ill find out soon cos now im going straight out for another one (after i find and finish the may classic of course)! :D
northernhord
09-04-2006, 22:31
Anyone read Grits and stump by Niall Griffiths and also Nicholas Blincoe, a lot of his work is based in Manchester during the 80s-90s, he is fuckin brilliant, I live in Bolton but might be able to make the odd meeting or three
Hiya All,
I've been advised that this Wednesday's bookclub clashes with a member's birthday, which is going to take three members away that night. They've asked if we could postpone for a week, as they're eager to discuss the book. I'm cool with that, if everyone else is? Let me know. This is the meeting to discuss The Rum Diary by the way.:)
Yeah I'm cool with that :)
BTW its Sorearms birthday today!! He has a bday thread HERE!!! (http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=158058) :D
Bumperamarina
Let's not let it die kids
(and I know I'm never there) :p
Fledgling
19-04-2006, 02:31
Bumperamarina
Let's not let it die kids
(and I know I'm never there) :p
Neither am I but there in spirit mate. Cheers for Birdman too, bloody shocking finish, compeeling book though, read it in about 3 days on the train.
I've started reading the Ragged Trousered Philanphropists, about 200 pages in. The book is actually not too difficult to read but is definitely worth looking into. I won't say anything at the moment because I know that people are still on the Rum Diaries (couldn't find this in the shops here) but look forward to online discussion of it.
I think this event may be delayed until next week - had a PM from Wookey today, he's skint, and also (correct me if I'm wrong Wooks) will give a chance for Mancboy to come along too
... I'm loving Rum Diary :D
bought RTP at the w/e - it's a big book! eek!
:( Yes, sorearm is sadly correct, I have spent all my beer money on helping orphans and such, so sadly cannot really make it.
THERE WILL BE A BOOKCLUB NEXT WEDNESDAY WITHOUT FAIL! (Even if I'm the only one who turns up...) SO please be there - and if you haven't come before, now is your chance to come and laught at my utter lack of organisation and poor budgeting skills.
:( Yes, sorearm is sadly correct, I have spent all my beer money on helping orphans and such, so sadly cannot really make it.
THERE WILL BE A BOOKCLUB NEXT WEDNESDAY WITHOUT FAIL! (Even if I'm the only one who turns up...) SO please be there - and if you haven't come before, now is your chance to come and laught at my utter lack of organisation and poor budgeting skills.
*points and laughs at Wookey!*
maybe just maybe if I can be arsed to read the sodding thing!
Kids, I can't make it tomorrow. It's the first night of a play my girlfriend's directed, and she's decided, contrary to her earlier ruling that I'm not allowed to go until at least next week, that she wants me there.
I think it's only fair, moral support and all that.
And just in case not going means I don't get any for a fortnight. ;) :D
I WILL see you all soon
x
Never mind, mancy, you have duties! Theatrical ones! Hope it goes really well. :cool:
The rest of you, I will see at the Pev if you can make it - I can't stay out long for reasons I shall explain later.....
Oooo, mystery etc. :D
Well, that went well. I havea hnag-over, so it must have gone well.
I panned the book, proper put it in its place!
Those who were missing were certainly missed.
Onwards to Ragged Trousered Philanthropists - be warned if you haven't bought your copy yet, it is HUGE, with very small type. Start now if you don't wanna do a Wookey and turn up with an unfinished book!
:D
winterinmoscow
27-04-2006, 12:54
Bugger I missed it again!!! When's the next one and what are we reading? I really will do my best to make it.
Next Book Club is Wednesday 7th June at 6 - 6:30pm (turn up late and we might already have spoken about the book and moved on to Urban gossip!!). We are reading the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, by Robert Tressell, will cost you a tenner new. :)
Soz we didn't make it :o
We were feeling really really knackered after seeing the Flaming Lips on Tuesday night...
Wish I could have discussed the Diaries with you Wooks- I loved it you philistine!! :mad: :p
Maybe we can have a natter about it when we meet next :)
Got the Rag Trou Phil already btw...
I have read the first chapter and found it a tad difficult- my bros has nagged me to read it so I will persist!
Hope to see book clubbers old and new soon x
I will actually meet you. Anyhow I haven't finished the Rum Diary.
I'm not sure about the ragged trousered fella either. Maybe sit that one out. As wookey says, huge tome, small type. Tried to read a bit of it in the shop and failed to get into it.
Fledgling
28-04-2006, 02:33
Well, that went well. I havea hnag-over, so it must have gone well.
I panned the book, proper put it in its place!
Those who were missing were certainly missed.
Onwards to Ragged Trousered Philanthropists - be warned if you haven't bought your copy yet, it is HUGE, with very small type. Start now if you don't wanna do a Wookey and turn up with an unfinished book!
:D
Sorry I couldn't make it, but I'm short of about 700 pounds (no pound symbol on stupid foreign keyboards!) and thus elected to stay in Sydney. I didn't read the Rum Diaries as I couldn't find a copy anywhere but glad all who went had a good time.
Now, my suggestion The Ragged Trousered Philanphropists.
I have just finished the book this morning having found a cheap copy 2 weeks ago. I realise that this is a long book, about 580 pages in total and the print is small. However I do urge people to read this book. It is a modern classic (modern being 20th century and beyond) and famous throughout the country, especially within the Labour movement. It describes the condition of the working classes in the Edwardian era and has been hailed as one of the first major novels to account for the lives of the working classes and the spread of Socialism.
Regardless of your political opinion I think you will find it interesting. If you have read the Grapes of Wrath and were astonished at the harsh conditions you will find some similarities here. The impact of this book is clear, some claim it to have won Labour the '45 General Election. Considering what came of this election I'd say it's worth a look. Leading Labour figures have cited its importance and the TUC currently hold a copy of the original manuscript. As Urban has a broad minded left/critical outlook in many ways I think this book would appeal to a lot of people but as I said this will be regardless of political opinion.
The length is somewhat nuanced by the large amount of dialogue and at first short chapters, each clearly focused on a particular topic but with a general theme running through them.
I would like to say more about the novel but at a later stage, however at present I recommend people to read it, it is one you could read 200 pages of and understand/discuss.
And Ricky Tomlinson loves it, so lets give it a go!
Sorry I couldn't make it, but I'm short of about 700 pounds (no pound symbol on stupid foreign keyboards!) and thus elected to stay in Sydney. I didn't read the Rum Diaries as I couldn't find a copy anywhere but glad all who went had a good time.
Now, my suggestion The Ragged Trousered Philanphropists.
I have just finished the book this morning having found a cheap copy 2 weeks ago. I realise that this is a long book, about 580 pages in total and the print is small. However I do urge people to read this book. It is a modern classic (modern being 20th century and beyond) and famous throughout the country, especially within the Labour movement. It describes the condition of the working classes in the Edwardian era and has been hailed as one of the first major novels to account for the lives of the working classes and the spread of Socialism.
Regardless of your political opinion I think you will find it interesting. If you have read the Grapes of Wrath and were astonished at the harsh conditions you will find some similarities here. The impact of this book is clear, some claim it to have won Labour the '45 General Election. Considering what came of this election I'd say it's worth a look. Leading Labour figures have cited its importance and the TUC currently hold a copy of the original manuscript. As Urban has a broad minded left/critical outlook in many ways I think this book would appeal to a lot of people but as I said this will be regardless of political opinion.
The length is somewhat nuanced by the large amount of dialogue and at first short chapters, each clearly focused on a particular topic but with a general theme running through them.
I would like to say more about the novel but at a later stage, however at present I recommend people to read it, it is one you could read 200 pages of and understand/discuss.
And Ricky Tomlinson loves it, so lets give it a go!
Yeah, Ricky said it changed his life, and he's one of the coolest men alive, so it must be good.:cool:
It's a v.good book I must say!
*growls*
... anyone noticed that The Line of Beauty is coming soon onto BBC2??? I CAN'T wait to see this one! ;)
It's a v.good book I must say!
*growls*
... anyone noticed that The Line of Beauty is coming soon onto BBC2??? I CAN'T wait to see this one! ;)
I know! But they won't look the same as what was in my head!! And they'll make a big play out of the small bits, and a minor play out of the important bits, and I'm sure they'll screw up the architecture of it. it was too finely woven to unpick into a TV series, I honestly wonder how they'll replace that in the medium.
I saw a few clips of it on one of those poncy "review" shows, and it didn't look that bad - perhaps I'm just too conditioned to telly but the bits they showed looked almost like I imagined when I read the book.
I saw a few clips of it on one of those poncy "review" shows, and it didn't look that bad - perhaps I'm just too conditioned to telly but the bits they showed looked almost like I imagined when I read the book.
I think we subconsciously turn the fiction we read into three-part TV serials in our heads!:D
Fledgling
17-05-2006, 00:26
Hello everyone!
Well, I expect that I'll miss the adaptation of The Line of Beauty , although a book of that length and depth would only disappoint me on-screen, given that my favourite scenes could not be captured fully. The scenes with Nick dancing with the Lady and Gerald's welly whanging are more than visual. But I'm sure it would be entertaining and interesting to see who would play Gerald.
Anyway...
As I have suggested the current book I thought I'd post to ensure Wookey arranges a date for the meet, even though I'm only an online member for now. Also, if there are any people thinking of coming along in person or online I thought I'd wade through the last few pages of posts and bring people up to speed, mainly beacuse I'm so selfless (actually I've got bored of Wikipedia articles on UK General Elections and looking at the heights of Welsh mountains, there is not much you can look at while at work).
Books the bookclub has read so far:
The Line of Beauty: Alan Hollinghurst
Shake Hands with the Devil: Lt Gen. Romeo Dallaire
I Lucifer: Glenn Duncan
Veronika Decides to die: Paulo Coelhio
The Rum Diaries: Hunter S Thompson
Current book (go read it)
The Ragged Trousered Philanphropists: Robert Tressell
And I hope people are liking this, I thought this would be a good urban book.
USEFUL STUFF
Well done Fledgers. Good call.
I missed the Line adaptation last night on account of marrying a bloke who likes football. I shall not be making this mistake again.
As for Ragged, well, I'm finding it quite hard to start, not because of the book but because my mind is on so much other stuff. I'm really eager to get through it though, as what I have read is wicked - and the Ricky Tomlinson bit at the end makes it sound quite life-changing, in a working class identity type way.
Also, guys, I've had some suggestions made to me by some other members. Tell me what you think:
1) We set a date for book club, say the 1st of every month, and we stick to it. If I can't make it, or you can't make it, never mind, there's always next month. I think moving it about and having it flexible is all very laudable, but a few members have said a fixed date would make it easier for them to organise their lives (yes, they have lives!) around. It sounds like a good idea to me, so I'm putting it to the floor.
2) Three other members have asked if I could set up an email notification for the bookclub. They aren't urbanites, and (inexplicably) don't want to be urbanites - so it's been requested that we keep these people in the loop - as they aren't seeing this thread. This would mean getting a web-email address from each member, and each member having the password to access a bookclub acount. Updates etc will then be sent via email (although probably still posted here for us Urbs)
3) It's been brought to my attention that other book clubs allow one member to keep a list of the other members' addresses and contact numbers. This means new members can be sent a postal invitation to the venue, and we know that everyone is who they say they are. It's meant to protect the safety of all members, and is likely to deter scumbuckets and anti-socs. Thoughts on this one?
4) I'd like you to remember that fresh blood is important to the club, and if you have any good mates who like reading and talking, and you don't mind spending one evening a month with them - please consider inviting them to join!! They needn't be urbanites, in fact it would be nice to stretch our circle outside of Urbania, imo. Have a think on this one.
1) We set a date for book club, say the 1st of every month, and we stick to it. If I can't make it, or you can't make it, never mind, there's always next month. I think moving it about and having it flexible is all very laudable, but a few members have said a fixed date would make it easier for them to organise their lives (yes, they have lives!) around. It sounds like a good idea to me, so I'm putting it to the floor.
Agreed - I work every Wednesday night so have never been able to show up. If it was the first of the month, every month, there'd be some I'd not make it to, but most people would be able to make it most of the time.
:)
I missed the Line adaptation last night on account of marrying a bloke who likes football. I shall not be making this mistake again.
If you can bear to sit and squint at it on a PC screen, it's being shown on the BBC2 website. :)
Hello book club people, can I join in? I'm in Mancheter and I'm usually around on a week day evenings & I read quite a bit so it'd be nice to have some new books suggested :)
I have read The Ragged T.P. about 3 times.
My mam gave it me when i was 18,i think she must have bought literally dozens of copies over the years for young people she thought worthy or would benefit from the book.
Brilliant book well ahead of its time.
H:)
Now that I've left the offending job, I can join in the book club too.
:)
Silver, handy1 and chio it would be great to see ya at the next meet :)
Its Wednesday June 5th I think!
U'll all be most welcome :)
Its Wednesday June 5th I think!
Won't be coming to this one as I didn't know I'd be able to be there so haven't read the book - once I find out what the next book is I'll join in :)
Silver, handy1 and chio it would be great to see ya at the next meet :)
Its Wednesday June 5th I think!
U'll all be most welcome :)
If I get through the book I should be able to make it! (just arrived today, looks a bit of a hefty read!) Weds is the 7th June tho? :)
Yes, Wednesday June 7th, just checked, sorry.:o
misskitten
30-05-2006, 14:42
Damn, away again! :mad: July is a definite tho, is it going to be the 1st or was that just an example??
The ideas for non-urbanites sound good as my housemates enjoyed it and would pop along again - and some other people I know too (who are put off by the whole internet :rolleyes: thing but love books).
Let us know the July selection when you decide, and have fun discussing ragged trousers! :)
Damn, away again! :mad: July is a definite tho, is it going to be the 1st or was that just an example??
The ideas for non-urbanites sound good as my housemates enjoyed it and would pop along again - and some other people I know too (who are put off by the whole internet :rolleyes: thing but love books).
Let us know the July selection when you decide, and have fun discussing ragged trousers! :)
No, I think we'll go for the first of the month, barring any good reasons why not...also, your housemates were lovely, the email idea is meant exactly for people like that who aren't urbanites but wanna meet to chat lit!
I wish I travelled as much as you, btw.:(
Fledgling
05-06-2006, 03:53
Hey all!
I'm going to write a big(ish) post on the book as I am unable to make it in person. Watch this space. Enjoyed reading it though and there's a lot I have to say about the book. TBH I'll come out and say straightaway that I thought this was one of the best books I've ever read. Sure you'll have a good discussion but as I've said before you can still understand the book if you only read 100 pages. It's winter down under which means torrential rain! I think the ideas about keeping a list of members and meeting on 1st of the month are good too, although I'll be an online only member for a while. Anyhow, watch this space and I'll put up some thoughts on the book.
:)
misskitten
05-06-2006, 19:24
No, I think we'll go for the first of the month, barring any good reasons why not...also, your housemates were lovely, the email idea is meant exactly for people like that who aren't urbanites but wanna meet to chat lit!
I wish I travelled as much as you, btw.:(
:D Yeah i know, tis great! But i am really working too this time... whole phd to write within 3 months (was 6 but spent first 3 having fun - oops!).
Housemates will be very happy to hear that btw. Books and beer are always a good combination in our house! ;)
TBH I'll come out and say straightaway that I thought this was one of the best books I've ever read.
Wow.:cool:
won't be able to make it tomorrow, got a flat-clearing and packing to do....
^^^^
Wot he said...*sigh*
avu9lives
09-06-2006, 15:43
:D Interesting :)
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