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PLEASE post up a warning to posters if you're going to directly link to a .doc file.
Now your apology for wrongly calling me a liar, please.
Why do you have to post up a warning?
Why do you have to post up a warning?Because:
(a) some people will be unable to view .doc files
(b) some people don't like/want Word unexpectedly opening from a link
(c) there could be a virus in the doc file
(d) it's a courtesy to warn people that you are not linking to a HTML file
Now your apology for wrongly calling me a liar, please.
Because:
(a) some people will be unable to view .doc files
(b) some people don't like/want Word unexpectedly opening from a link
(c) there could be a virus in the doc file
(d) it's a courtesy to warn people that you are not linking to a HTML file
Now your apology for wrongly calling me a liar, please.
I didn't realise that. Is it in any of the guidelines?
BTW - you haven't proved your'e not lying yet.
I didn't realise that. Is it in any of the guidelines?No. It's common sense, I would have thought.
Apology please.
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BTW - you haven't proved your'e not lying yet.I've told you how to check the facts and I've even supplied you photographic evidence which proves my age.
Apologise now or fuck off, I've had enough of your cheap slurs.
This (http://www.cornwallconference.co.uk/papers/Peter%20Burton%20paper.doc) bloke sums up pretty much what I think
From here (http://www.cornwallconference.co.uk/programme.htm)
At a skim read, he highlights some undesirable features of the Cornish economy (tho there's a strong whiff of the xenophobic particularism of which we've seen a lot on this thread). But, there's a complete failure to present an alternative. It's no good whinging if you're not putting up an alternative vision and campaigning for it.
No. It's common sense, I would have thought.
Apology please.
That's a bit of an assumption to make isn't it? Not everyone works with computers.
Like I said, you haven't addressed the claim. Stalemate I fear. Still, I expect I'll be banned anyway for disgreeing with the infallible Ed :)
At a skim read, he highlights some undesirable features of the Cornish economy (tho there's a strong whiff of the xenophobic particularism of which we've seen a lot on this thread). But, there's a complete failure to present an alternative. It's no good whinging if you're not putting up an alternative vision and campaigning for it.
I personally don't work in any tourist related area. I worked in the voluntary sector until I got ill and am now planning to run a small business from home when I'm better. I'm not in a position to ofer viable alternatives for anyone but mysef. However, I thought ICT, food production and investing in the agricultural sector were mentioned in that doc :confused:
Like I said, you haven't addressed the claim. Stalemate I fear. Still, I expect I'll be banned anyway for disgreeing with the infallible Ed No, but you'll certainly be banned for posting up unfounded allegations that I'm a liar, which you refuse to support with facts.
The picture from the Reading Festival was taken in 1975. Do I look younger than 10 years old there?
I've told you that I'm not prepared to post up my age for your benefit, but I have told you how you can easily verify how old I am - something you refuse to do.
I suggest you apologise because it's not on to accuse people of lying with zero evidence to support that accusation.
No, but you'll certainly be banned for posting up unfounded allegations that I'm a liar, which you refuse to support with facts.
The picture from the Reading Festival was taken in 1975. Do I look younger than 10 years old there?
I've told you that I'm not prepared to post up my age for your benefit, but I have told you how you can easily verify how old I am - something you refuse to do.
I suggest you apologise because it's not on to accuse people of lying with no facts.
You claimed you'd been coming to Cornwall since before I was born. You haven't said anything that proves/disproves it.
tarannau
02-09-2005, 11:31
Tourism doesn't subsidise that service, the majority of tourists come to Cornwall by car. The air service is used more by business people and locals.
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I think you're being a bit naive here, although I'd love to see the some figures to support your assertion. My boss has flown to Cornwall more than a couple of times this year, on business as you suggest. However the business is totally linked to the tourist trade in his case - both supporting the surf and accommodation markets. He's also brought a hosts of others down on that Newquay airport services - photographers, his wife, children etc. I suspect much is true of much of the other business trade.
He also met his most recent business contacts on holiday in Cornwall. Local Cornish boys working on tourist houses...
As for the rest of your anti-outsiders rant, it's the same elsewhere in much of the country. You just have to look at some of the gentrification 'debates' on the Brixton and Welsh forums, for example, to see that it's far from just working people in Cornwall who are being priced out of their neighbourhoods and denied an effective living wage. The same factors about stressed infrastructure, tourists, second homes, half-year occupancy, obscene property values and workers pushed out all apply to London and elsewhere as well. So you'll have to excuse my seeming distaste for 'knowitall wankers' who think that they're in a some kind of special situation, despite only leaving their own area a few times a year.
What industries are going to replace tourism btw? Cornwall ain't ever going to be a self sufficient rural, fishing and mining idyll again. Small cottage industries selling stuff out of the region is never going to generate anywhere near the level or income - besides selling Cornish 'crafts' elswhere is only likely to increase the tourist appeal.
You claimed you'd been coming to Cornwall since before I was born. You haven't said anything that proves/disproves it.I'll tell you what. £100 quid says that I can prove that I was going to Cornwall since before you were born.
I've got a photo of me with my Dad on St Ives beach in 1962 that proves it beyond doubt.
Care to put your money where your big mouth is?
I think you're being a bit naive here, although I'd love to see the some figures to support your assertion. My boss has flown to Cornwall more than a couple of times this year, on business as you suggest. However the business is totally linked to the tourist trade in his case - both supporting the surf and accommodation markets. He's also brought a hosts of others down on that Newquay airport services - photographers, his wife, children etc. I suspect much is true of much of the other business trade.
He also met his most recent business contacts on holiday in Cornwall. Local Cornish boys working on tourist houses...
As for the rest of your anti-outsiders rant, it's the same elsewhere in much of the country. You just have to look at some of the gentrification 'debates' on the Brixton and Welsh forums, for example, to see that it's far from just working people in Cornwall who are being priced out of their neighbourhoods and denied an effective living wage. The same factors about stressed infrastructure, tourists, second homes, half-year occupancy, obscene property values and workers pushed out all apply to London and elsewhere as well. So you'll have to excuse my seeming distaste for 'knowitall wankers' who think that they're in a some kind of special situation, despite only leaving their own area a few times a year.
What industries are going to replace tourism btw? Cornwall ain't ever going to be a self sufficient rural, fishing and mining idyll again.
Small cottage industries selling stuff out of the region is never going to generate anywhere near the leve or income.
A) I never said my anti-outsiders stuff was reasonable.
B) Tourism is changing the face of Cornwall to the extent that people won't want to visit the area anyway.
I'll tell you what. £100 quid says that I can prove that I was going to Cornwall since before you were born.
I've got a photo of me with my Dad on St Ives beach in 1962 that proves it beyond doubt.
Care to put your money where your big mouth is?
Actually my mouth is quite small. Always been the bane of my singing life that :(
B) Tourism is changing the face of Cornwall to the extent that people won't want to visit the area anyway.So what's your pragmatic alternatives?
Actually my mouth is quite small. Always been the bane of my sinigng life that :(Don't wriggle. Either meet my bet or apologise.
So what's your pragmatic alternatives?
Have a look at the Cornwall Conference link I posted. There's some viable alternatives from people who know what they're talking about on there.
Don't wriggle. Either meet my bet or apologise.
I'm morally against betting. How would I know that the picture really was 1962? Are you really that old?
pogofish
02-09-2005, 11:46
IWhat industries are going to replace tourism btw? Cornwall ain't ever going to be a self sufficient rural, fishing and mining idyll again.
Don't know about the Cornish position but in parts of Scotland, tourism often only serves to hold-back the development of other industries and very often, any benifit from that tourism goes straight out of the area anyway, with few tangibles, other than a some low-paid seasonal jobs. Have a look at the objections to almost development, most often they are from absentee landowners who don't have a finger in the pie & holiday occupiers who don't want to see their two weeks of "beauty" spoiled.
Community buy-out laws & local investment palns might help matters eventually but these are only very recent innovations.
I'm morally against betting. How would I know that the picture really was 1962? Are you really that old?<content removed>
Perhaps that fucking answers your disgusting slurs that I'm a liar.
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Perhaps that fucking answers your disgusting slurs that I'm a liar.
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I'm sorry to hear that.
I'm sorry to hear that.Then fucking apologise for your slurs that I'm a liar. Now.
tarannau
02-09-2005, 11:56
A) I never said my anti-outsiders stuff was reasonable.
B) Tourism is changing the face of Cornwall to the extent that people won't want to visit the area anyway.
To play your game:
a) I'd say that you're deliberately being unreasonable to provoke a reaction on this thread.
b) Can't you say the same of many other areas - substitute any number of place names for Cornwall or even 'gentrification' for 'tourism' and you can carry on endlessly. Besides, doesn't this bode well for the future as far as you're concerned - a balance will be struck eventually.
I can understand your frustration at losing a convenient service. But you surely must understand why some folks are taking some offence when you're arguing from what's essentially an unreasonable, self-interested and hypocritical position.
Stobart Stopper
02-09-2005, 11:58
Just say sorry, it's not that hard to do. Ed isn't a liar, that's one thing he isn't.
To play your game:
a) I'd say that you're deliberately being unreasonable to provoke a reaction on this thread.
That's pushing it a bit but I have been over egging it. I don't really go into town to watch Northerners be attacked by seagulls
b) Can't you say the same of many other areas - substitute any number of place names for Cornwall or even 'gentrification' for 'tourism' and you can carry on endlessly. Besides, doesn't this bode well for the future as far as you're concerned - a balance will be struck eventually.
Yes of course you can name other ares it's happening to but not neccessarily on the scale it's happening to Cornwall. And by the time a balance is struck (if ever) it may be to late and the Cornwalls uniquenes may be lost.
I can understand your frustration at losing a convenient service. But you surely must understand why some folks are taking some offence when you're arguing from what's essentially an unreasonable, self-interested and hypocritical position.
Of course I can but it was Urbans po faced, moralists at their best. It's difficult not to bite.
Just say sorry, it's not that hard to do. Ed isn't a liar, that's one thing he isn't.
He needs to calm down. It's not that important.
tarannau
02-09-2005, 12:17
Yes of course you can name other ares it's happening to but not neccessarily on the scale it's happening to Cornwall. And by the time a balance is struck (if ever) it may be to late and the Cornwalls uniquenes may be lost.
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From Brixton through to the Welsh valleys, I suspect that people will disagree with you. Many people feel just as strongly about their own unique backyard.
Pogofish - I take on board what you're saying - tourism and the associated hopitality industries tend not to be the most equitable of emplyers. However, I don't believe the local crafts based industries that Madzone seems to be suggesting in their place are a viable alternative either. Too often they end up as boutique goods, sold to an urban clientele (mark ups mainly to existing poncey shops) and further reinforcing tourist views of 'quaint' or 'traditional' Cornwall, exacerbating the problem. It's hardly a Silicon Glen style solution bringing employment and long term growth prospects to the area.
He needs to calm down. It's not that important.
A bit like the news of the reduction in service at Newquay airport, but you've spun it out...
He needs to calm down. It's not that important.If your next post on these boards isn't an apology for your disgraceful slur, you're on a week ban.
If your next post on these boards isn't an apology for your disgraceful slur, you're on a week ban.
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I'm sorry I upset you
but you have passenger flights. and the mod are leaving in 2007 so then it will be fully passenger no?
From what I can gather, when the MOD leave in 2007 the commercial airport will then have to pay for the services such as fire cover etc that the MOD currently provide.
As it stands at the moment, the money generated by commercial flights isn't enough to pay for the running of the airport once the MOD go, so the Council need to charge a £5 tax on people using the airport to help keep the airport open.
Ryanair have refused to charge their customers the £5 and have reduced the number of flights out of spite. Presumably Ryanair think the Cornish ratepayers should pay for the airport instead of the aiport users.
I don't use planes because of teh environmental issues, and I'm not happy at having to pay subsidies for any airport. And I see no reason why the passengers shouldn't pay the extra £5 themselves.
On the surface tourism looks like it keeps cornwall afloat but there are loads of hidden costs to locals. ....... Our water rates are among the highest in the Country
For example, I pay far higher water rates now in my 1-bedroom mobile home than I did when living in a large 3-bed semi in Kent.
It's so high because we have to pay to keep the beaches clean for the benefit of tourists who have to pay nothing towards them. From memory, the statistics are that we have 30% of the UK bathing beaches, paid for by just 3% of the UK population (who are most probably on a much lower than average wage anyway).
AND I can't even use most of the beaches for half the year because they don't allow dogs during the holiday season! :mad:
What industries are going to replace tourism btw? Cornwall ain't ever going to be a self sufficient rural, fishing and mining idyll again. Small cottage industries selling stuff out of the region is never going to generate anywhere near the level or income - besides selling Cornish 'crafts' elswhere is only likely to increase the tourist appeal.
Cornwall isn't just a quaint holiday/fishing/craft area, people LIVE here as well. We have industrial areas, business parks, technology parks, as well as all the usual support services every other area of the UK has to support it's local population. :p
Ok (I could be wrong here, I don't know all of Cornwall well yet), but I don't know of many major companies here - but that's probably because of the poor transport links. :rolleyes:
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