View Full Version : its thursday - what are the chances of more attempted bombs today?
well its been two weeks since the last set of attempted bombs and only 4 weeks since the first. is anoyone in london thinking that something might happen today. i truly hope that it doesnt and that the little pattern that has arisen does not continue. sorry if this is scaremongering. i dont intend it to be.
Badger Kitten
04-08-2005, 06:29
You are not being helpful.
*goes to work on the Piccadilly line*
Dunno though if I were a terrorist, Thursday is the last day I would pick now, police everywhere...wonder if other crime is down as a consequence?
Stobart Stopper
04-08-2005, 06:35
The cops will be everywhere, and searching bags as people go in to the stations, the problem is they are on the look-out for certain people, ie asians/somalians etc, the bomb-carrier might well be a white bloke or a woman next time.My worry is that because it's being made harder for suicide bombers to get on the tube, maybe they will change tactic and bomb somewhere else, like a shopping centre where security is not so tight.
TBH I think this is the last we will have heard from the terrorists for a while anyway, they have made their point, Madrid never had any more did they?
chances? Hmmmmm - well in the last 12 months we've had two - so that's what - 2 in 365?
So I'd give odds of 125-1
Dunno though if I were a terrorist, Thursday is the last day I would pick now, police everywhere...wonder if other crime is down as a consequence?
I initially thought that but then these peoples vile head spaces are so wedged up into their bowels, that their ego's would probably get the better of them and they would choose a Thursday in London, as opposed to a Monday afternoon in Cleethorpes.
However, I do think it will be a day of the fuzz everywhere, blaring sirens and false alarms..so chin up blighty...
The cops will be everywhere, and searching bags as people go in to the stations, the problem is they are on the look-out for certain people, ie asians/somalians etc, the bomb-carrier might well be a white bloke or a woman next time.My worry is that because it's being made harder for suicide bombers to get on the tube, maybe they will change tactic and bomb somewhere else, like a shopping centre where security is not so tight.
TBH I think this is the last we will have heard from the terrorists for a while anyway, they have made their point, Madrid never had any more did they?
Thers a real shortage of suicide bombers coming out of the job centres I would say..so you are probably right we are unlikely to hear for a while..but then the Spanish did pull out of Iraq -co-incidence with the no bombings?
Stobart Stopper
04-08-2005, 06:44
Thers a real shortage of suicide bombers coming out of the job centres I would say..so you are probably right we are unlikely to hear for a while..but then the Spanish did pull out of Iraq -co-incidence with the no bombings?
UK will be out of Iraq by christmas too, if what I heard is right, one of my friends, her brother is out there, he said after christmas that's it, all finished. He could be bullshitting though.
UK will be out of Iraq by christmas too, if what I heard is right, one of my friends, her brother is out there, he said after christmas that's it, all finished. He could be bullshitting though.
I can't imagine we can afford to carry on there and from a politcal perspective the longer we stay there the longer Blair hangs himself and his government. So your friend could be right..however somehow I do not think we have heard the last of the loony Allah brigades and am sure (sadly) that there will be other 'just' reasons to explode their hate filled intestines upon our lovely pavements.
pilchardman
04-08-2005, 06:55
chances? Hmmmmm - well in the last 12 months we've had two - so that's what - 2 in 365?
So I'd give odds of 125-1That's got to be worth a tenner's punt.
*passes the bookies on way to work*
LilMissHissyFit
04-08-2005, 07:19
When i was in London last week I saw loads of people being serched. I know the police say they are looking for 'certain' people but the type I saw being searched was Male and aged between 15-40. I only saw one person who wasnt white being searched.He was the first i saw and I though 'oh aye aye, muslim= being searched. I was quite reassured that I saw many more whites being searched( obviously though thats ony what i saw and in no way representative)
FridgeMagnet
04-08-2005, 07:21
I've not seen anyone being searched yet - mind you I've not been on the tube for the last five days. Don't think I'll take a bag to work today.
ernestolynch
04-08-2005, 07:26
I don't go to London - do they just search males or do females get their bags searched too?
paulhackett66
04-08-2005, 07:28
When i was in London last week I saw loads of people being serched. I know the police say they are looking for 'certain' people but the type I saw being searched was Male and aged between 15-40. I only saw one person who wasnt white being searched.He was the first i saw and I though 'oh aye aye, muslim= being searched. I was quite reassured that I saw many more whites being searched( obviously though thats ony what i saw and in no way representative)
Wait for a white convert bomber to appear and see who they search then. And let's face it if they stop someone with a bomb in their bag, they're hardly liekly to say 'it's a fair cop' now are they? No they'll just let go there and then.. police presence.. how utterly unreassuring..
And even if what you say isn't representative, they're searching bags of those with suspected involvement in terrorism aren't they? At the moment the predominant characteristics of those in custody and those suspected of perpetrating 7th July fall into the 'male. 15-40. non-white' description. So logic would dictate that they would search that broad category?
There were police all over waterloo and london bridge up until today. Today none. Is that representative?
past caring
04-08-2005, 07:33
Fucking hope not, cunts - got to get the sleeper to Glasgow tonight. :mad:
Andy the Don
04-08-2005, 07:38
Fucking hope not, cunts - got to get the sleeper to Glasgow tonight. :mad:
Great train journey, I often get the sleeper to Edinburgh. A spot of supper at a little Italian place in Drummond Street, then a couple of beers in a pub. Board the train, a quick drink in the train bar & then fast a asleep all the way to Scotland, waking up in Edinburgh..
Back on topic went through London Bridge at 7ish & there were more police than commuters, felt very safe..
Bob_the_lost
04-08-2005, 07:41
UK will be out of Iraq by christmas too, if what I heard is right, one of my friends, her brother is out there, he said after christmas that's it, all finished. He could be bullshitting though.
Nah, he might well be, but we'll have troops there for a while yet. Reduction in numbers possibly but we'll still have troops there.
(Heh, it'll all be over by christmass we've never heard that one before :D)
You are not being helpful.
*goes to work on the Piccadilly line*
Best possible answer :)
ernestolynch
04-08-2005, 07:48
Great train journey, I often get the sleeper to Edinburgh. A spot of supper at a little Italian place in Drummond Street, then a couple of beers in a pub. Board the train, a quick drink in the train bar & then fast a asleep all the way to Scotland, waking up in Edinburgh..
Back on topic went through London Bridge at 7ish & there were more police than commuters, felt very safe..
*Brief aside*
How much does that sleeper train journey cost? We've fancied the idea of going to Edinburgh.
jacobs steel
04-08-2005, 07:48
Fucking hope not, cunts - got to get the sleeper to Glasgow tonight. :mad:
Sleeper eh, eh. You'd be cheaper flying. You must have loadsamoney :rolleyes:
edit: apologies for derailment ;)
LilMissHissyFit
04-08-2005, 07:51
Wait for a white convert bomber to appear and see who they search then. And let's face it if they stop someone with a bomb in their bag, they're hardly liekly to say 'it's a fair cop' now are they? No they'll just let go there and then.. police presence.. how utterly unreassuring..
And even if what you say isn't representative, they're searching bags of those with suspected involvement in terrorism aren't they? At the moment the predominant characteristics of those in custody and those suspected of perpetrating 7th July fall into the 'male. 15-40. non-white' description. So logic would dictate that they would search that broad category?
There were police all over waterloo and london bridge up until today. Today none. Is that representative?
OH FFS here we go again...I didnt say it was representative and yet you choose to twist what Ive said. Im just saying Im posting a snapshot of my experience of a few hours in London a week ago, 4 days after the shooting of that guy in stockwell, where I was feeling bloody nervous.
I felt reassured that it wasnt 'just' muslims who were being targetted in particular ( becuase after all the next one COULD be white). I agree what would they do if they found something? Isnt it better to look though rather than just allow people onto tubes and buses unchecked?
Of course logic would say they would search that broad category( do you really think we cant work that out for ourselves :rolleyes: )
What I saw was people being searched if they were male, between 15-40 and carrying luggage. backpacks and holdalls generally. NOT becuase they were muslim which yes was reassuring, that they werent wandering round blindly thinking 'its only the people with dark skin we need to be concerned about'
Now instead of trying to patronise and twist just take what I said. Whats there to challenge about it? I was reporting what I saw. Is there anything wrong with that? :rolleyes:
Agent Sparrow
04-08-2005, 07:55
Dunno though if I were a terrorist, Thursday is the last day I would pick now, police everywhere...
Was having this conversation with Crispy last night - if they do try and attack today its a hell of a fuck you to London. I'm trying not to think that tomorrow would possibly be a clearer opportunity after the relief of nothing happening today. It has to end at somepoint though, hopefully that point is now.
I know the chances are that they will not attack, and even if they do I won't be in the area, but I'm still working from home and staying off the buses today for my own state of mind, as is the guy I share an office with. Tbh, sitting here in Crispy's dressing gown in relative comfort compared to my office, I think I might quite like this working from home malarky anyway... :)
Andy the Don
04-08-2005, 07:55
*Brief aside*
How much does that sleeper train journey cost? We've fancied the idea of going to Edinburgh.
If you book ahead not that much more expensive than flying.. & you don't have to "schlep" it out to the airport.
http://www.firstgroup.com/scotrail/content/caledoniansleeper/index.php
ernestolynch
04-08-2005, 07:57
If you book ahead not that much more expensive than flying.. & you don't have to "schlep" it out to the airport.
http://www.firstgroup.com/scotrail/content/caledoniansleeper/index.php
Gah! What are we talking? £50? £75? £100? :confused: :mad:
past caring
04-08-2005, 07:59
Not at all - Scotrail do these "bargain birth" things. Prices vary between £29 and £49 one way. The only slightly odd thing about it is they seem to put the cheap births on sale before the full-priced tickets. Which means that if, for example, you have been lucky enough to get a cheap outward but the cheap returns are all gone, you have to wait another few weeks before the normal price tickets are on sale.
Why they can't put them all on sale at once and when the cheapies are gone, they're gone, is beyond me. Much prefer the sleeper to flying - it means we can go tonight with none of the agro of arriving at ten o'clock at night. Neither do we have to get up at some unglodly hour to get to Stanstead or Luton. Just wake up in Glasgow at seven am.
is anoyone in london thinking that something might happen today. well, considering that london has 7 million people, i reckon theres quite a big chance someone in london is thinking that something might happen today...police seem to agree.
Hello police. :)
ernestolynch
04-08-2005, 08:02
What's the berth like? Do you bring a sleeping bag or are there clean sheets? Is it comfy? You won't have some dirty Aussie backpacker in yr room?
Andy the Don
04-08-2005, 08:05
What's the berth like? Do you bring a sleeping bag or are there clean sheets? Is it comfy? You won't have some dirty Aussie backpacker in yr room?
Berths in 1980's BR purple, own basin, clean sheets, very cosy, no backpackers.
past caring
04-08-2005, 08:06
Just the two of you.
I think it's pretty childish logic to say that something will happen today. You could equally say 'ooh, the first two were two weeks apart, so the next one will be three weeks later which is next Thursday'.
There were five cops at Blackhorse Road this morning, five. Ludicrous. :rolleyes:
jacobs steel
04-08-2005, 08:09
Much prefer the sleeper to flying - it means we can go tonight with none of the agro of arriving at ten o'clock at night. Neither do we have to get up at some unglodly hour to get to Stanstead or Luton. Just wake up in Glasgow at seven am.
Sounds like you don't like flying. You can get a flight to Glasgow most anytime, and it only takes an hour.
paulhackett66
04-08-2005, 08:12
OH FFS here we go again...I didnt say it was representative and yet you choose to twist what Ive said. Im just saying Im posting a snapshot of my experience of a few hours in London a week ago, 4 days after the shooting of that guy in stockwell, where I was feeling bloody nervous.
I felt reassured that it wasnt 'just' muslims who were being targetted in particular ( becuase after all the next one COULD be white). I agree what would they do if they found something? Isnt it better to look though rather than just allow people onto tubes and buses unchecked?
Of course logic would say they would search that broad category( do you really think we cant work that out for ourselves :rolleyes: )
What I saw was people being searched if they were male, between 15-40 and carrying luggage. backpacks and holdalls generally. NOT becuase they were muslim which yes was reassuring, that they werent wandering round blindly thinking 'its only the people with dark skin we need to be concerned about'
Now instead of trying to patronise and twist just take what I said. Whats there to challenge about it? I was reporting what I saw. Is there anything wrong with that? :rolleyes:
First off - not meaning to patronise.. just meaning to contribute, and if you post something on here you might expect someone to comment. Rightly or wrongly. Although
1) I'd have thought people discussing train fares on here is more patronising?
2) You are saying 'Muslims', which at the moment, in my mind, falls into the same type of generalisation you bemoan.
3) I don't believe that an out of town policeman with a tube map and a guideline to stop 'swarthy young men with rucksacks' is going to prevent a suicide bomber. It may stop them getting on a train but who's to say that's what the bombers are aiming to attack next anyway?
4) If there aren't any attacks today, will people feel more comfortable from now on? I doubt it. It just means there isn't a 'thursday' pattern
past caring
04-08-2005, 08:19
Sounds like you don't like flying. You can get a flight to Glasgow most anytime, and it only takes an hour.
Been to the US, Peru, Bolivia, India, Hong Kong, Greece, Spain, NZ all since 9/11. Flying doesn't bother me at all. We're travelling on from Glasgow to Bute for a long weekend. To get to Bute today - even with flying, would mean taking an extra day off work. To do it tomorrow would mean having to get up at a silly hour and paying silly money to get ourselves up to Stanstead.
This way we get a normal night's sleep, wake up in Glasgow, pick up the hire car at 7.30, arrive at the hotel by ten. Job done.
I think it's pretty childish logic to say that something will happen today.
i wasnt saying something was going to happen today just because its a thursday more asking whether it was in the back of people's minds that on the two previous occasions something has happened that it has been on a thursday with the same time gap between incidents.
4) If there aren't any attacks today, will people feel more comfortable from now on? I doubt it. It just means there isn't a 'thursday' pattern
good point.
ernestolynch
04-08-2005, 08:22
Been to the US, Peru, Bolivia, India, Hong Kong, Greece, Spain, NZ all since 9/11. Flying doesn't bother me at all. We're travelling on from Glasgow to Bute for a long weekend. To get to Bute today - even with flying, would mean taking an extra day off work. To do it tomorrow would mean having to get up at a silly hour and paying silly money to get ourselves up to Stanstead.
This way we get a normal night's sleep, wake up in Glasgow, pick up the hire car at 7.30, arrive at the hotel by ten. Job done.
Sounds cushty. :)
jacobs steel
04-08-2005, 08:32
We're travelling on from Glasgow to Bute for a long weekend. To get to Bute today - even with flying, would mean taking an extra day off work. To do it tomorrow would mean having to get up at a silly hour and paying silly money to get ourselves up to Stanstead.
This way we get a normal night's sleep, wake up in Glasgow, pick up the hire car at 7.30, arrive at the hotel by ten. Job done.
Point taken :) Sounds good, hope the weather's ok.
Just as matter of interest, what car rental firm are you using? I need a firm that can do me one way from Brighton to Glasgow next Friday.
AverageJoe
04-08-2005, 08:33
[QUOTE=past caring]Not at all - Scotrail do these "bargain birth" things. Prices vary between £29 and £49 one way.
Blimey! Thats a good typo :D
past caring
04-08-2005, 08:34
Oh aye - fuck! Just noticed that. :D
I imagine it would be a lot more expensive to shove it back up. ;)
past caring
04-08-2005, 08:37
Just as matter of interest, what car rental firm are you using? I need a firm that can do me one way from Brighton to Glasgow next Friday.
I dunno - the missus has sorted that part. I imagine it's Easycar. I know it only come to ninety notes for the whole weekend which isn't bad. And they do one way. I'll ask her if you want.....
AverageJoe
04-08-2005, 08:38
Oh aye - fuck! Just noticed that. :D
I imagine it would be a lot more expensive to shove it back up. ;)
Youd have to pay for a return ticket!
jacobs steel
04-08-2005, 08:40
I dunno - the missus has sorted that part. I imagine it's Easycar. I know it only come to ninety notes for the whole weekend which isn't bad. And they do one way. I'll ask her if you want.....
Would be appreciated :)
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