View Full Version : one out, all out! rolls-royce management victimise union official and score a wildcat
bristle-krs
21-07-2005, 17:53
on tuesday 100 workers at the rolls-royce aero engine factory in bristol walked out, after union (amicus) convenor jerry hicks faced disciplinary procdures after he was "alleged to have led an illegal dispute and not followed the terms of a working practice agreement".
by wednesday he had been sacked.
We are angry and disappointed but not surprised as clearly this has been Rolls-Royce's intention all along.
We will vigorously pursue an appeal but we will also begin the process of balloting for industrial action.
staff then voted unanimously to take industrial action.
and today 400 walked out in support of hicks!
bbc (1) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4697081.stm)
bbc (2) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4701611.stm)
bbc (3) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/4703771.stm)
Latest Amicus statement*on Rolls Royce Filton dispute
21 July 2005
Amicus' officer Tony Pearce said: "There was a mass meeting of our members at the plant today and it was decided that a ballot for industrial action be held as soon as possible in support of Jerry Hicks. Amicus's 3,000 manual members on the site will be balloted at the earliest opportunity.
"There was also a meeting of union convenors from all the UK Rolls Royce sites today at which they all pledged their support for Jerry."
Amicus has started the ballot process. Members will be asked two questions - if they support strike action and/or action short of a strike. If it is a yes vote it is*likely to be in the region of four weeks before we can take action. http://www.amicustheunion.org/Default.aspx?page=2456
Rebel Warrior beat you to it...
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=123131
bristle-krs
21-07-2005, 18:11
unfortunately rw threads are, how shall i put it, 'below my radar' ;)
butchersapron
21-07-2005, 18:12
Seems at first glance like the local officals have got thing back under control from a position where a mass wildcat seemed very very likely.
have they gone back to work then?
butchersapron
21-07-2005, 18:23
Not sure actually - they may have went back after the gate meeting, will ask locally...
any updates? are they still out, or did they go back today?
bristle-krs
22-07-2005, 10:18
any updates? are they still out, or did they go back today?
well, it's front page of the 'morning star' ;)
and the latest bbc report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4706169.stm) (about 7am) says "rolls-royce bosses and unions are to hold talks", and that industrial action could spread to the other 5 r-r sites in britain...
seems neither management nor amicus are commenting at the moment.
reuters (http://tinyurl.com/72ogb)
times report (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,9067-1704402,00.html)
more boss version stuff this is london (standard) (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/PA_NEWA21287061121970143A00001?source=PA%20Feed)
boskysquelch
22-07-2005, 12:26
Is this up for discussion_opinion giving?...or is it just a News Thread? :confused:
I believe it is a discussion board, so jump right on in!
boskysquelch
22-07-2005, 12:34
Why show any support for any industry that is directly contributing to the cessation of this Planet? :(
Okayokayokay,,,I go for the whole Workers thang,,,done my time with SWP,,,had Special Branch fuck my life up,,,so I keep clear(sorry but I've seen enough 'fear' for a lifetime)... back to topic_ish
,,,in the meantime, and the last 20 years, the Worlds population knows EXACTLY whats going to finish it...primarily car and aeroplanes plus industry as a whole...so what is the point? :(
bristle-krs
25-07-2005, 00:56
bristol indymedia report (http://bimc.vm.bytemark.co.uk/bimc/newswire.php?story_id=24046&show_comments=true)
Friday, 22 July 2005
Jerry and the Local Officer of Amicus attended a meeting with a Solicitor to discuss applying for Interim Relief. Early indications are that this is what will occur.
Jerry has asked me to express his deepest gratitude for the hundreds of messages of support that he has received from throughout this Country and several from abroad, in this very difficult time for him and his partner, Jo.
The Bristol Test Stewards would also like to express their gratitude for the fantastic financial and moral support that has been, and still is, flooding in. Thanks to you all!
Continued financial support is essential in the fight ahead. Please send donations made payable to “AEU Stewards Body – Test Area” c/o Jerry Hicks, 10 York Road, Montpelier, Bristol BS6 5QE.
on friday workers went back to work, and an amicus spokesman said strike action could be balloted for as early as friday (see reuters (http://tinyurl.com/8vwg5)).
and the icing on the cake: according to the observer (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,6903,1534872,00.html) it could spread to a national strike...
question is, what's rolls-royce management wanting out of all this?
Update:
Friday, 29 July 2005
The appeal hearing commenced at 9:30 am and continued all day. Jerry was accompanied by Ian Waddell, National Official, AMICUS and Tony Pearce, Local Officer, AMICUS. It was eventually adjourned until Monday, 1 August.
Monday, 1 August 2005
The appeal hearing resumed at 11:00 am and was concluded at approximately 4:45 pm, when the company announced that they upheld their previous decision to dismiss Jerry.
Jerry is disappointed, but not surprised at this decision.
A postal ballot of Test Manual employees will take place from 3 August 2005 to 11 August 2005.
Jerry’s application for Interim Relief will be heard this Friday, 5 August 2005.
A big THANK YOU to you all from Jerry and the lads on Test for the hundreds of messages of support and donations.
Jon Locke
AMICUS Test Steward
Test Operations - Rolls-Royce, Bristol
Was on the news again yesterday.
Something about calls for a countrywide strike to get the guy reinstated?
In other SW strike news: there was a report of a picket line at Portbury (or Avonmouth) docks - 1000s of cars are waiting to be shipped - the contractors brought in to shift them haven't crossed the PL http://www.urban75.net/ubb/icons/icon14.gif
Funny thing is that the keys to the aforementioned cars have gone 'missing' :D
Didnt the rep break negotiated agreements ? If the company did this they would be rightly panned. When I was a union rep we were taught that honouring and upholding negotiated agreements and insisting the company do the same was the cornerstone of good representation.
he was held responsible for organising unofficial strike action.
which he did, and good on him, the restrictions on strikes make meaningful action almost impossible!
latest update:
The CSEU meeting held in London last Wednesday, 3 August, will be re-convened on Monday, 15 August, again in London. This meeting is at the request of Rolls-Royce and comes after their defeat at the Tribunal Interim Relief Hearing last Friday, 5 August. We believe a financial offer of some sort will be made to Jerry. This whole
campaign is not, and never will be, about money. It is about UNCONDITIONAL REINSTATEMENT. Please rush e-mails to John Wall at the CSEU as quickly as possible, emphasising the importance of getting Jerry's job back as a Union Official, not to simply negotiate pay-offs. THE UNION IS NOT FOR SALE AND JERRY WON'T BE BOUGHT!!
butchersapron
10-08-2005, 20:48
latest update:
The CSEU meeting held in London last Wednesday, 3 August, will be re-convened on Monday, 15 August, again in London. This meeting is at the request of Rolls-Royce and comes after their defeat at the Tribunal Interim Relief Hearing last Friday, 5 August. We believe a financial offer of some sort will be made to Jerry. This whole
campaign is not, and never will be, about money. It is about UNCONDITIONAL REINSTATEMENT. Please rush e-mails to John Wall at the CSEU as quickly as possible, emphasising the importance of getting Jerry's job back as a Union Official, not to simply negotiate pay-offs. THE UNION IS NOT FOR SALE AND JERRY WON'T BE BOUGHT!!
Inbetween J won the case for Interim Relief, which RR have refused to accept.
"As part of what is becoming a major national campaign to reinstate Jerry Hicks, the sacked convenor of the Rolls Royce test areas, there will be a large rally on Wednesday 17th August in defence of the unions.
Speakers include Tony Benn, Jerry Hicks, and other prominent figures from the national labour movement.
Venue: Council House, College Green
Time: 7pm for a 7.30 start.
Bring all union banners."
past caring
10-08-2005, 20:56
errr - point of protocol given that these are the Bristol forums. Is it unofficial "policy" amongst the habituees to not respond to the numpties? Just asking like, before I go off on one.... ;)
butchersapron
10-08-2005, 21:05
errr - point of protocol given that these are the Bristol forums. Is it unofficial "policy" amongst the habituees to not respond to the numpties? Just asking like, before I go off on one.... ;)
Yes. We've had big, real life trouble, with the above. Ignore please.
kropotkin
10-08-2005, 21:40
I'm up for going to that meeting to show support. Would I be welcome, do you reckon?
butchersapron
10-08-2005, 21:42
Yes of course you would. I can give you some names as well.
kropotkin
10-08-2005, 21:43
Grand, cheers.
Serotonin
11-08-2005, 07:25
Yes. We've had big, real life trouble, with the above. Ignore please.
Have you? Wow, really?
fat hamster
11-08-2005, 07:29
I'm up for going to that meeting to show support. Would I be welcome, do you reckon?
Are you going to be in Bristol then anyway, kropotkin? Or are you thinking of making a special journey? :)
butchersapron
11-08-2005, 07:47
He means the london one on monday fh.
fat hamster
11-08-2005, 08:22
:o
butchersapron
11-08-2005, 08:26
I'll be at the one on weds though if you're popping down...
butchersapron
12-08-2005, 12:41
Strike ballot results have come through - the test area will be out from the 22nd. There's suggestions that the 1000 other workers may also walk in solidarity without a ballot, the Heathrow Business can only help that.
Jografer
12-08-2005, 15:27
Strike ballot results have come through - the test area will be out from the 22nd. There's suggestions that the 1000 other workers may also walk in solidarity without a ballot, the Heathrow Business can only help that.
BBC are reporting this ballot 55 in favour, 33 against with 6 abstentions.... but also that 400 walked out some days ago... now I am confused, can anyone explain these numbers?
butchersapron
12-08-2005, 16:42
It's due to the different areas in the factory - only the test centre (one of the smallest sections) was balloted, another ballot in the other sections is stilla possibility.
re-convened CSEU meeting met:
"The reconvened meeting between Rolls-Royce management and the CSEU took place this morning in London. Jerry Hicks, John Rouse (T & G National Officer), John Wall (Chairman of the CSEU), Doug Collins (Deputy General Secretary Amicus), along with manual stewardsl, formed the union team.
As predicted, Rolls-Royce duly tabled a financial offer to Jerry as their way of settling the whole matter. The tawdry offer of £50, 000 to Jerry was, quite rightly, rejected immediately and the company were told that the only acceptable offer was the unconditional reinstatement of Jerry Hicks.
At the same time, Rolls-Royce management were informed of 7 days notice for official strike action on the Test site at Bristol.
The meeting then came to a close. We await any further developments.
Please see attachment regarding the forthcoming rally in Bristol in support of Jerry."
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