View Full Version : Where does the North start..........?
lizzieloo
14-07-2005, 09:34
And the South end? and does the Midlands exist?
Folk from the north call me a southerner, people from the south call me a northerner
I'm not fussed either way, just interested to see where people think one ends and the other begins.
butchersapron
14-07-2005, 09:35
More to the point, when will it end?
lizzieloo
14-07-2005, 09:36
Watford.
Only Londoners think that.
Juice Terry
14-07-2005, 09:37
The Thames
jacobs steel
14-07-2005, 09:38
I'm Scottish so as far as I'm concerned the north ends at Perth :p
stoke on trent derby way, south starts at rugby (maybe northampton)
jugularvein
14-07-2005, 09:40
leicester
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 09:47
I think that when you get to Nottingham, you're basically at the border.
lizzieloo
14-07-2005, 09:50
I think that when you get to Nottingham, you're basically at the border.
And what about where the south begins?? Nottingham??
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 09:54
Midlands. Which starts at...ooh, dunno, maybe Northampton.
CyberRose
14-07-2005, 12:37
The north beings at the Trent. I suppose the midlands is between the Trent and the areas aound Birmingham
As somebody who still clings to the idea of counties, I've always thought of Northants, Notts, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire as the east midlands, meaning that the north doesn't start till you get to Yorkshire and Lancashire.
I am somewhat confused as to the position of Cheshire but I'm prepared to chuck it into the north I suppose with Staffordshire, Shropshire, Worcestershire, Herefordshire and Warwickshire being the west midlands.
http://usera.imagecave.com/Flaviano/england_map.gif
Personally I reckon it's:
Just above London to just below Stoke = Midlands
Stoke and above = North
kained&able
14-07-2005, 15:42
anything further north then watford gap services is north!
dave
West68thStreet
14-07-2005, 15:44
The North starts in your heart, of course.
killer b
14-07-2005, 15:47
anything south of the river ribble is south in my book...
Negativland
14-07-2005, 15:52
The south border of Yorkshire and Lancashire is the line that matters. Leicester, Nottingham, Chester, places like that are mostly wannabes consumed with envy.
There's something missing in that map... It doesn't look right! :confused:
Oh, yes, it's Scotland... :eek:
http://usera.imagecave.com/Flaviano/england_map.gif
Western-super-Mare?!
:rolleyes:
Iemanja: it misses Wales off as well. 'cos it's a map of England (and Cornwall before the Kernow nationalists start). Personally I think there should be a line marking the West Country as well 'cos I'm buggered if I live in the South.
Edit: also - Middlesborough?!
geminisnake
14-07-2005, 16:44
If the middle bit line moved just below Ipswich I'd agree with it.
And agree with JTG, there should be a west country line.
reallyoldhippy
14-07-2005, 16:59
Lincoln a northern town? :eek:
shut up you whiny slags - my name is Flav and I make the rules.
both those lines need to come down a bit i reckon :p
the top one just under stoke and the bottom one by clacton somewhere
and have a diagonal line denoting the west country
good effort tho :D
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 18:12
Lincolnshire feels like the Midlands, but Derbyshire feels like the North. It's partly the mountains that do it.
reallyoldhippy
14-07-2005, 18:22
If you stand at a bus stop, and with five minutes are involved in a conversation, you're in the north. If you stand at a bus stop for an hour a day every day for 10 years and nobody talks to anybody, you're in the south.
:)
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 18:24
Ever waited at a bus stop in Jesmond?
but you'd be witing that long for a bus up north innit
they come to quick in lon don
:p
when i went drinkin as lad, wate tu aar fot bws an laast un ome b a alf blood e naine!
reallyoldhippy
14-07-2005, 18:28
Ever waited at a bus stop in Jesmond?Only ever went to Jesmond to play rugby, and the bus waited for us.
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 18:31
Actually come to think of it I nearly always took the Metro from Jesmond (if I didn't walk). Took the bus to Jesmond a few times though. Never talked to anybody in the queue. Funny buses up there, they used to turn up early which was more annoying that being late would be.
Western-super-Mare?!
:rolleyes:
Iemanja: it misses Wales off as well. 'cos it's a map of England (and Cornwall before the Kernow nationalists start). Personally I think there should be a line marking the West Country as well 'cos I'm buggered if I live in the South.
Edit: also - Middlesborough?!
Thanks JTG... How could I not have noticed that Wales was missing??? I grew up looking at a map of Brazil, so the British map isn't that ingrained in my memory... Well, that's my excuse anyway! :D
Actually come to think of it I nearly always took the Metro from Jesmond (if I didn't walk). Took the bus to Jesmond a few times though. Never talked to anybody in the queue. Funny buses up there, they used to turn up early which was more annoying that being late would be.
That's another good thing about the North - Tyne & Wear supposedly has one of the best public transport systems in the world.
Donna Ferentes
14-07-2005, 18:46
That's something of an exaggeration, but I did like the Metro a great deal.
killer b
14-07-2005, 18:59
If you stand at a bus stop, and with five minutes are involved in a conversation, you're in the north. If you stand at a bus stop for an hour a day every day for 10 years and nobody talks to anybody, you're in the south.
:)
this is actually utter bullshit. i've lived in the north and the south, and if anything the south is friendlier. why do we have a reputation for friendliness - we're a miserable bunch up here...
chilango
14-07-2005, 22:07
http://ise.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/images/KingdomDivided.GIF
there you go, some historical precedent courtesy of Wales! :p
NoCoolNickname
15-07-2005, 02:18
this is actually utter bullshit. i've lived in the north and the south, and if anything the south is friendlier. why do we have a reputation for friendliness - we're a miserable bunch up here...
Who asked you? Fuck off.
:)
Ann Tigonie
15-07-2005, 23:14
Originally Posted by reallyoldhippy
If you stand at a bus stop, and with five minutes are involved in a conversation, you're in the north. If you stand at a bus stop for an hour a day every day for 10 years and nobody talks to anybody, you're in the south.
this is actually utter bullshit. i've lived in the north and the south, and if anything the south is friendlier. why do we have a reputation for friendliness - we're a miserable bunch up here...
I grew up in the north but live in the south & would tend to agree with really old hippy about the bus stop thing...I would say its not so much unfriendliness as possibly a touch of paranoia. People whom I've attempted to engage with in public spaces, tend on the whole to look at me as though I am either barmy or must want something from them or both.
Mind you, that probably says more about me than southerners in general. :D
Red Faction
16-07-2005, 03:26
why isnt hereford part of wales?
:p
In Bloom
16-07-2005, 06:28
If you stand at a bus stop, and with five minutes are involved in a conversation, you're in the north. If you stand at a bus stop for an hour a day every day for 10 years and nobody talks to anybody, you're in the south.
:)
Too true :cool:
In my (admittadly limited) experience, Southerners don't seem to talk to each other in public places. I thought I was wary of people I don't know untill I travelled on the tube, haven't you people ever heard of eye contact?
teh south is mittleeurope
same as north france or south germany or belgium or netherlands
theyre scum
This map seems pretty accurate:
http://www.find-our-community.net/region/Europe/Western_Europe/UK/Northern_England/Images/Northern_England_map.gif
Echo Beach
17-07-2005, 17:55
That map seems about right for me. I'm a Derby-born naturalised Stokie and there's no way either city is part of the north. Our euro constituencies are east and west midlands respectively, and the regional news and weather we get are, erm, east and west midlands.
But because the powers that be have decided a midlands forum is a non-starter, I'm taking up residence here. :)
tangerinedream
17-07-2005, 18:54
That map seems about right for me. I'm a Derby-born naturalised Stokie and there's no way either city is part of the north. Our euro constituencies are east and west midlands respectively, and the regional news and weather we get are, erm, east and west midlands.
But because the powers that be have decided a midlands forum is a non-starter, I'm taking up residence here. :)
Well your welcome for me duck.
I like stoke, I worked there for a bit and it has no airs and graces and it was a friendly place if a little aesthetically challenged :)
and I'm still in love with a beautiful girl in Stoke. :)
lizzieloo
17-07-2005, 19:39
But because the powers that be have decided a midlands forum is a non-starter, I'm taking up residence here. :)
Who's that then? I'm buggered cos I was brought up about 4 miles away from the Geographical centre of England.
Retrieved from the dusty archives as requested...
As somebody who still clings to the idea of counties, I've always thought of Northants, Notts, Derbyshire, Lincolnshire and Leicestershire as the east midlands, meaning that the north doesn't start till you get to Yorkshire and Lancashire.
I am somewhat confused as to the position of Cheshire but I'm prepared to chuck it into the north I suppose with Staffordshire, Shropshire, Worcestershire, Herefordshire and Warwickshire being the west midlands.
spot on. at last someone who agrees with me. :D
Where's Nottingham then?
Midlands?
I'd call it East Midlands :)
I'd call it East Midlands :)
indeed it is.
Geoff Collier
09-08-2006, 17:58
spot on. at last someone who agrees with me. :D
Yes, I was brought up in Crewe and we saw ourselves as in the North West. At least I did. Then I lived in Hull for years and I realised that the north is a fluid concept. It seemed to me that the "north" begins (or ends) about ten miles to the south of where you happen to live at the time.
Mind you, that doesn't work when you live in Keighley :)
Where's Nottingham then?
Midlands?
dear gods yes, east midlands
cetainly not north
Yossarian
09-08-2006, 18:09
I think the north stops just south of Chester - maybe Crewe or Nantwich at a push.
Yes, I was brought up in Crewe and we saw ourselves as in the North West. At least I did. Then I lived in Hull for years and I realised that the north is a fluid concept. It seemed to me that the "north" begins (or ends) about ten miles to the south of where you happen to live at the time.
Mind you, that doesn't work when you live in Keighley :)
I think if you live in Keighley, it doesn't matter where you are... you're too busy beating people up who aren't from Keighley. :D
I think the north stops just south of Chester - maybe Crewe or Nantwich at a push.
I'd agree with this
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