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What if the government were destroyed?

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Quartz, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. Quartz

    Quartz Contrarian plebeian

    Okay, suppose there were a vote of No Confidence being held - every single MP is there - and the Houses of Parliament were to get hit by a meteorite, killing everyone. Suppose also that there were a contentious piece of legislation going through the Lords, so they're all dead too. To whom would government devolve? Obviously, Brenda is still Head of State, and elections need to be held, but in the interim, but what does she do? Does she call what's left of the Privy Council? Who governs? Who would become acting Prime Minister?
  2. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model let's kill the king

    at this point the poet laureate would be the most senior remaining public figure and would therefore be summoned to buckingham palace to form a government.
  3. SpineyNorman

    SpineyNorman WAWAW?

    Good thread.
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  4. Quartz

    Quartz Contrarian plebeian

    That would be an early-day motion, would it?
  5. Wolveryeti

    Wolveryeti vole-primping badman

    Boris :(
  6. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone ubi sunt

    with Simon Armitage for Chancellor. And Henry Normal for Home Secretary. None of that lot odes well.
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  7. quimcunx

    quimcunx jesus tonsils

    I have never sought nor could ever seek office or power for my own sake, but I cannot deny my people when they are in need.

    I'm there for you, bro.
  8. youngian

    youngian Well-Known Member

    The civil service permenant secretaries would be perfectly capable of seeing the machinery of government ticks over until an election is called. I'd personally trust them more than Prince Charles and local councillors taking over.
  9. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    The four still-living ex-prime ministers (probably only three as Maggie's past it) would form a caretaker government with assistance from any other ex-ministers still around.
  10. pogofish

    pogofish Testicle Hairstyle




    We don't have quite as comprehensive a plan as the "War Plan UK" that applied during the cold war:

    http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/features/beyond/

    These are the current provisions.

    http://webarchive.nationalarchives....binetoffice.gov.uk/media/216734/nss2009v2.pdf

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consu...CID=PDF&PLA=furl&CRE=nationalsecuritystrategy
  11. Kippa

    Kippa Well-Known Member

    I thought the queen could theoretically appoint anyone she wants for Prime Minister?
  12. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    So theoretically that it can't happen like that. Not without a coup detat.
  13. Firky

    Firky The first of the gang Banned

    If there was a putsch wouldn't queeny be outed too?
  14. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    If there was a putch (other than the mystical Revolution, of course) queeny would be expected to support it. (Doubt that she would, mind you.)
  15. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    If by this you are implying a having massive shit in the small hours, then yeah. :cool:
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  16. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Immediately the Scots would invade...
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  17. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork outlook innacurate

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  18. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist virtue without terror is impotent.

    what the fuck has hewitts kid got on his wrist
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  19. Wilf

    Wilf Getting there

    Alan Bennett, presiding over a TOWIE cabinet. Spray tans and digestive biscuits for all!
  20. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Now there's a thread title to give me the horn! :oops:
  21. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Only if he makes it to Buck House alive! :mad:
  22. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Benjamin Zephaniah as Foreign Secretary and John Hegley as Culture Secretary. Wendy Cope as Defence Secretary.
  23. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Only if they were still MPs, by which light they'd have died at the Palace of Westminster. There's no post-Reform Act 1832 precedent for a government being formed from non-elected elements. It's constitutionally-impossible and would set a precedent for dictatorship.
  24. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    The correct form is that she can appoint anyone who is recommended to her, which basically means that she takes the route of appointing the representative of the party with the biggest majority.
  25. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    ...and be eradicated as a viable threat by Carlisle. :D
  26. ericjarvis

    ericjarvis give a feck for the feckless

    Sod the "what if" thread, let's concentrate on "how to".
  27. Quartz

    Quartz Contrarian plebeian

    In the scenario, there are no MPs left, nor any members of the House of Lords. They must have thought about how to deal with this in WW2. Invoking the Privy Council, with Major as the acting PM (being of the same party as the now-deceased government), while elections are organised and held seems pretty reasonable to me, but the Privy Council would also be rather thinned. And it would still take many months: you'd need a month or so to select candidates, another 2-3 months for the new candidates to sort themselves out as a team and thrash out policy and generate a manifesto, then a final 4-6 weeks for campaigning. That's perhaps 6 months without political direction. Or, if you will, 6 months without politicians around to fuck things up. :D
  28. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    Better that (far better! :D ) than L & L's ridiculous usurpation of constitutional politics. It also needs to be borne in mind that solutions for wartime are not designed to function as solutions in peacetime. Different needs and different laws apply.
  29. Lock&Light

    Lock&Light Ignoring most idiots Banned

    You appear to be taking this thread seriously! :confused:

    Anyway, I enjoyed the thought of John Major trying to keep Blair and Brown from each other's throats.
  30. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Untermensch, and proud!

    All governments take the theme of this thread seriously. Why wouldn't I, if I'm interested in exactly what is or isn't likely to happen if some calamity should befall Parliament? Know thine enemy.

    Well, he's a decent cricket umpire, but I'm not sure that qualifies him to police a pair of world-class arseholes.

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