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The great Chumbawamba appreciation thread

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by cyberfairy, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    Chumbawamba are fab-their albums have encompassed a wide range of styles from Civil war ballads to rap, their lyrics are political and concise without being patronising, they have the best choruses in the world without being too irritating and poppy and they are suberb live. Let's give it up for Chumbawamba! :)
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  2. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl The batteries ran out...

    Well said - a much underrated band with some brilliant songs. Handy with a bucket of water and all. :cool:
  3. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    :D :D
  4. Ground Elder

    Ground Elder Well-Known Member

    The sleeve notes are often more interesting than the songs and the can't sing in tune, but I still retain a soft spot for them :p
  5. rocketman

    rocketman Taxed and tested

    Alice Nutter one of the best interviewees I ever met in me early days.
    Much-loved band in this house.
  6. bristle-krs

    bristle-krs New Member

    huzzah!

    favourite 5 chumba lps?

    5 = 'swingin' with raymond' split over love & hate sides, some beautiful songs plus the usual raucous singalongs :cool:
    4 = 'slap!' the sound of agitpunks moving into fresher pastures, with the peerless 'that's how grateful we are' nestling amongst r.a.f. imagery and poppy techno hooks
    3 = 'english rebel songs' acapella folk songs of resistance down the ages
    2 = 'pictures'/'ballots' punk concept albums! never mind the ballots - here's the rest of your life!
    1 = 'shhh'/'jesus h christ' sampladelic pop perfection, every song a karaoke classic! harry roberts, lenny bruce, writs from ex-beatles and abba... what more could you want?
  7. i_hate_beckham

    i_hate_beckham Him From A Village

    Yo mean they did more than Tubthumping and Amnesia?
  8. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    Anarchy is prob my favourite and such a lovely sleeve...[​IMG]
  9. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN ding dong

  10. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    see, on the ball as ever! :cool:
  11. bristle-krs

    bristle-krs New Member

    i think 'anarchy' would be just outside my top 5, along with the 'showbusiness!' live lp... i really like 'raymond', but no one else seems to rate it :oops:
  12. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    Prefer the louder stuff :cool: but is still excellent of course...new one (un chumbabwamba) is mighty fine too and Readymades an excellent pick me up and good point of call for Chumba virgins...
  13. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME The global anti-capitalist movement reaches back to the late eighteenth century. In the back alleys of history, insurrection, like the common cold, spread quickly, inspired by the French and American revolutions: as the Sans Culottes garotted, British conspirators plotted.

    It’s a long walk to the gallows
    It’s a small step to swing free
    The crying in the tower
    For my conspirators and me
    Gunpowder and modem
    And a dream of liberty

    And then they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home
    Oh yes they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home

    If you walk on the beach with King Canute
    You’ll be walking back alone
    Tonight he’ll dine on oysters
    While we fall like green acorns
    We’ll be putting down our roots
    Right in the centre of the storm

    Oh but they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home
    Oh yes they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home

    The cry of gulls
    The hum of streets
    The buzz of phones
    The march of feet
    We’ll meet tonight
    To draw up plans:
    Exclamations
    Ampersands

    Somewhere across the water
    They’re storming palace gates
    Scared of the moth/flame metaphor
    We fall asleep and wait
    Singing for a future but
    The chorus comes too late

    Because they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home
    Oh yes they’ll tell you
    Don’t try this at home

    So we’re coming to the last dance
    I’ve got another request
    With your best foot forward
    We’ll lay this ghost to rest

    See, see how clever they are!!! Helloo!!!! Hellooo??? *takes deep breaths, calms down*
  14. noodles

    noodles ▁▂▃▅▆▇▉

    I don't know much about Chumbawumba, but respect has to be given for this:

    [​IMG]
  15. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    Fucking sellout bastards. Make loads of money, abandon DIY principles and gob in the face of the scene they came from and then come crawling back when the mainstream is bored of the fuckers. To quote Oi Polloi "blatant hypocracy sells records".
  16. bristle-krs

    bristle-krs New Member

    u r 1337

    c:cool::cool:l
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  17. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    care to explain?
  18. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    I'm fucking serious. They spend years taking a political stance, advocating DIY and all that and as soon as a hit single and wads of cash gets waved about their principles are swept under the carpet as quick as a flash. Talking about how the DIY ethic was something they did when they were 'young and naive', it's a poke in the eye. People are entitled to change their views, people need to mature and rethink their politics, but to pretend that they didn't exist as soon as a record exec waves some money about and then to pretend you never sold out when your popularity wanes, it's inexcusable.
  19. reallyoldhippy

    reallyoldhippy Banned Banned

    Thing is, over the years they've probably made less money than their detractors in straight jobs.

    They're still involved in DIY stuff. Give us an example, poet, of a band that has been going for over 20 years, has made an impact, and hasn't "sold out"?


    I've got a LOT of time for them.
    :)
  20. bristle-krs

    bristle-krs New Member

    you've got your chronology in a twist :p
  21. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    They still seem to be very political and issue conscious judging from their recent lyrics and their website (updated today to slag off Bush's stance on Hurricane Katrina) I haven't seen them advertising gap or anything and if i recall correctly, the money they got for that car advert went straight to an anti-car charity. They had a hit single yes but one can still adhere to morals and be in the charts. Have you a link for the 'young and naive' quote? What evidence do you have to say they've sold out/abandoned their principles? I'm not arguing, generally interested :)
  22. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    Crass, oi polloi, conflict, discharge, black flag and loads of others who practiced what they preached.
  23. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    you can't expect every band with left wing views to live in a commune if they want to be taken seriously?
  24. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    Well, taking money for a car advert is *ever so slightly* utterly fucking hypocritical, regardless of what happens to the money. What offends me as much as anything is that they sold out, publickly belittled and condemned a lot of their principles and then tried to pretend nothing happened when their popularity waned. It'd be like our fine Editor deciding to accept a Nike sponsorship deal for U75 and then nine months later getting dumped by them and inviting all the old crowd to go back as if nothing changed. A momentary lapse is proof of how little your principles actually mean.
  25. Ground Elder

    Ground Elder Well-Known Member

  26. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    If a band refuse for their song to be used, the advertising company normally commision one that sounds very similar but not quite similar enough to be done for. I think to accept the money and then give it to an anti-car organisation caused far more press and thus public awareness of anti-car related issues than simply refusing to participate. I haven't seen any interviews where they've belittled their principles but would appreciate a link if you know of any. They had a song that became a hit, they made a bit of money but never seem to have started swanning around in furs, quite the contrary, used their success as a tool to get their agenda across, eg the water throwing incident :) i still have seen no evidence of them selling out.
  27. gawkrodger

    gawkrodger Well-Known Member

    i like the english rebel songs LP
  28. cyberfairy

    cyberfairy http://unicycle-emptiness.co.uk/

    that's probably what i meant...cheers :) have no memory today after a rather decadent night out...
  29. Ground Elder

    Ground Elder Well-Known Member

    see my earlier edit and this interview.
  30. poet

    poet Norman Borlaug > you

    Yes, actually. Crass were the most important and influential band in the history of anarchopunk precisely because they were morally unimpeachable. If you can't practice what you preach then keep your gob shut - you merely serve to undermine the principles you espouse. I expect everyone publicly forwarding radical political views to be doing their utmost to live those beliefs in practice and to demonstrate both with words and actions their dedication to their cause. If everyone with a circled-a on their hoodie lived like Crass anarchism wouldn't be the joke of a political belief that it's become, whether it'd be a serious threat to our society or not it'd be a million times more credible than it is now.

    We need to attack sell-outs and part-timers because they undermine the work of the dedicated. I've got into stand-up fights with a number of high-profile environmentalists because they drive cars - who the fuck is going to listen to someone preaching environmental views if they don't care enough to ditch their fucking car? It undermines the way I live and the words I speak. When I talk to 'ordinary' people about environmentalism their first response is that of cynicism. They try and figure out my little flaws like they'd try and work out how a conjourer does tricks. The implicit assumption is that living a properly green life is impossible because so many high-profile environmentalists fail to do it right. People refuse to believe that I really am carbon-neutral, that my solar array really does pump out enough power for me and several others, that my EV isn't charged by a coal-firing power plant. It's because of all the half-arsed hypocrites who say one thing and do another that credibility as a radical is impossible.

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