So how cold is it in York compared to deep south?

Oh yes we did make the Swan as well. Lovely, yet-a-bloody-gain a fine ale choice, and as an added bonus it had a fire which he Slip didn't ....

Now we're back in Swansea, and grumpy ...

Despite visiting York regularly I'd never heard of the House of Trembling Madness - now that is a name crying out to be googled! It sounds great - unfortunately, the last time I got to York all I got to drink in was O'Neills (yes, I know - flagellates self with imaginary real ale whip - and it wasn't my choice need I say!) and the houses of friends & relatives.

The York Brewery pubs (Three Legged Mare, Last Drop & Yorkshire Terrier) are all good - I managed a drink in the Yorkshire Terrier over the summer but generally have to fall in with the choices of my nearest & dearest...........

I like the Yorkshire Terrier and go there quite a lot if I'm actually in town, it's often busy but not packed, which given it's location is pretty good

Argh!!! My fella who is a born and bred northerner said that he really noticed the cold when he got home weds night!

I'm gonna freeze 27th!!!!!!

Got to the Last Drop, very nice, and York Brewery beers really are grand

But we didn't have time to make the others

Well, you'll just have to come back again - had a quick pint in the Golden Ball just now on my way home from finishing my Christmas shopping

Thinking of coming up again for the York Beer Festival next September if we can't make it earlier. Just a wish-idea at this stage though