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Should Windrush Square be renamed Ritzy Square?

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    Judging by the ever increasing area in the square being claimed by the Ritzy and the relentless branding they've slapped all over the place, it's being to look like the Ritzy's very own annexe!

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  2. Kanda

    Kanda Nosh Wagon

    Are they licensed??

    (I think you have to post a licensing certificate somewhere that says exactly how many seats you are allowed outside)
  3. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    They seem to have recently thrust their branded area far further in the direction of Coldharbour Lane (see middle pic).
  4. gaijingirl

    gaijingirl Well-Known Member

    I did get slightly peeved the other day at the lack of access to the slopes down to the pedestrian crossing now that they "own" so much of the square (when pushing a pram) - it's a bit of a silly thing to get annoyed about but I was mildly irritated for a while.
  5. gabi

    gabi Well-Known Member

    i assume they're paying lambeth a hefty price for all those seats blocking the main square. they should be able to given how much they charge to see a film these days.
  6. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

    Can't believe how cheaply the council rent our space to this mob.

    It might not be quite so irritating if this cheap space was being shared by some of the smaller traders in Brixton. I wouldn't mind seeing something resembling a summer market with a choice of stalls selling food/drink, clothes/jewelry, postcards or such.

    The Ritzy presence is just so bland and corporate.
  7. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

    Btw, it should be 'City Screen Square', it might tout itself as our old favourite Ritzy but its all just smoke and mirrors.

  8. TruXta

    TruXta Tired of this

    Nail on fucking head.
  9. gaijingirl

    gaijingirl Well-Known Member

    A summer market would be lovely!
  10. snowy_again

    snowy_again Slush

    And probably getting their loyal customers in before the BCA opens its cafe less than fifty yards away...
  11. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    It would be nice to see another independent cafe there too, along with small local traders getting a slice of the square.
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  12. TruXta

    TruXta Tired of this

    What's the BCA? Yes to trader's and more indy caffs on the square too.
  13. Kanda

    Kanda Nosh Wagon

    Yeah, more coffee shops, we don't have enough of them.
  14. TruXta

    TruXta Tired of this

    Not good ones anyway.
  15. Kanda

    Kanda Nosh Wagon

    Wouldn't know. I don't get the idea of 'going out' for coffee... :)
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  16. TruXta

    TruXta Tired of this

    And that's a peculiarly British trait, albeit one that is slowly eroding. You have the best pubs in the world, but you cannot get your heads around cafes. There are of course honourable exceptions. Note I'm not talking about greasy spoons here.
  17. Crispy

    Crispy Fond of drink and industry

    The square itself has provision in the design for a cafe booth, subject to future planning application. Unfortunately, the plans in the 2007 application are so badly scanned, it's impossible make out exactly where this is :facepalm:
  18. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    If you work from home, it's a way of maintaining sanity and getting to chat to other sanity-concerned freelancers.
  19. Kanda

    Kanda Nosh Wagon

    Yeah, I guess it is. :)
  20. Crispy

    Crispy Fond of drink and industry

  21. TruXta

    TruXta Tired of this

  22. Rushy

    Rushy More vibrant than edgy.

    My understanding is that the space wasn't offered up to The Ritzy. They approached Lambeth and made them an offer which was accepted. Obviously Ritzy are in a better position to take advantage of the square than other businesses but that on its own shouldn't preclude them from being allowed to do so.

    Similarly, a business group approached the council about setting up the small market outside KFC a couple of years back. Anyone could have asked to do this but the group that did it got the pitch. Then local businesses complained that it was unfair competition and the licence was withdrawn. (Not sure if there wasn't more to it than that).

    If businesses want to use the spaces I guess they should put forward a proposal. If you don't ask...
  23. bluestreak

    bluestreak HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica

    No matter what they do it will always be Bovril Square to me.
  24. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

    Recently there was a link posted to a document outlining the pricing structure for seats in the square which implied that perhaps a policy exists.

    Even if someone asks/proposes it shouldn't mean that the council just give to they that ask. Something like the commercialisation of a very expensive public square should have had at least a little consultation attached to it. What if McDonald's had asked first?
  25. miss minnie

    miss minnie Well-Known Member

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  26. Rushy

    Rushy More vibrant than edgy.

    I guess if the new square was directly outside McD's they might have been allowed to although I know that not all offers are accepted. I wonder what they'd do? Personally I'd not like that. I was more responding to the suggestion that smaller businesses should be allowed some of the space. Maybe they would be if they made a viable proposal - like the markets I referred to. IIRC the outline price structure was not for the square per se but for allowing use of Lambeth owned outside space in general, e.g. SW9 bar maybe, or San Marino's. (It may be that in those particular cases they own the outside space - I'm not entirely sure - but there will be other instances where the council let neighbouring businesses use parts of the street).

    IMO it would be a shame if Ritzy (or whosoever happened to be adjacent to the square) was not allowed to come to an arrangement to serve in it. Although I agree with Ed's comments that it is a pretty imposing setup.
  27. Rushy

    Rushy More vibrant than edgy.

    :D
  28. editor

    editor Like an ultra left hatboy on heat

    I don't recall any of the proposals for Windrush Square featuring a vast chunk of the area being taken over by a private company.

    As it is, vast pots of public money appear to have just funded a nice al fresco new dining/cafe area for the Ritzy.
  29. Ms T

    Ms T Honey-coloured ramparts

    I thought there was going to be a market in the square? What happened to that idea?
  30. Rushy

    Rushy More vibrant than edgy.

    Ritzy has certainly benefited from it. There was always an express intention to allow forms of private economic activity on parts of the site in the form of a coffee shop and also markets. I agree that this particular use was not discussed.

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